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today i have my first fibrosis test and it shows 6.3 kpa, i have read its not with in normal range. i am not happy with my result.tomorrow will have LFT, i am worried i will have bad result again!!
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Are u taking nucs? Hope u r and if not start it immediately or get to IFN if u can take risks.
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i didnt take any medication.   is this too serious ?  
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fibroscan is normal, if you check every 6months you ll catch any increase/decrease, fibrosis is a very slow process
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do you mean my result is normal ? she said no inflamation and fibrosis but i dont believe her.
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yes that s it and by using fibroguard plus vit d3 or liposomes with resveratrol/curcumin/glutathione you may keep liver free of fibrosis indipendent from virus.
fibrosis is more the effect of oxidative stress/inflammation (probably from immune system) that the virus itslef
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Nigel sativa (black cumin) is found to decrease inflamation, it also increases own interferon and lymphcytes production and activates macrofages a bit, so it may be good supplement too.
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Do you have fatty liver? Sometimes fatty liver may skew results?
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6.3kpa is a perfect liver, population has often higher values due tomprocessed foods and sugar drinks/alcool

if the liver was fatty the reading would be over 6kpa, maybe very mild fatty liver would have no effect on reading

also very low alt may give lower readings
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Y not his result attributed to hbv induced damage and is just supposed to be due to fatty liver. What's the way to judge which way it has been caused. Y forget the treatment rules when his fibroscan is above the limits. Yes, he should certainly see other parameters like viral load and alt too for initiating meds but meds shall b considered at this stage I suppose.
Secondly it's known that hbv doesn't cause damage itself but does through induction of immune system, but it is not very reasonable all the time to say hbv doesn't cause harm itself  coz a day later or a day before it is only and only hbv's presence which makes liver damage through immune induction(what diff it makes) and hbv is the sole risk for hcc in us. I don't like hbv said as harmless itself and irrational to blame immunity alone.
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One of famous doctors told me here that, if you are Obese and inactive HBV carrier, any bad results in Fibroscan are because of fatty liver, not bcz of HBV.
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Right but u cannot omit the possibility of hbv risk when u have it. Inactive carrier is not a very definitive term. Overweight don't cause fibrosis significantly but viruses and alcohol do that. Also I am not sure if being fatty alone without hbv can rise alt to double than normal limits.
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March are u overweight? What's ur bmi?
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im underwaight my BMI is less than  17, i wonder if underweight pt can have fatty liver.
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While it would be good to have fibroscan at 6.0 or bellow, you are just slightly over that limit. I am guessing you might either have a fatty liver or have F1 (very mild) fibrosis. In either case no reason for worry but need to be careful from now on: a) what you eat and b) wether you need to start treatment.

You need to check your LFT and hbv DNA, so as to know whether you need treatment or not. Did you do recently DNA viral load test?

Also, how old are you?
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im 25 yrs old
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the point is a liver with fibroscan 6kpa has no damage why are you looking for damage when there is none

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the virus makes indirect damage but there are already studies showing that lowering inflammation and oxidative stress you even reverse damage, todd from heptech regressed a cirrhosis around 20kpa due to hbv+hcv superinfection only using with heptech, no antivirals no peg
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it took him years on that but fibroscan ened up to about 4-5kpa
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what you recommend for me now.  all i can get is black seed and vitamin c?  safisifa used black seed with Honey, is this to neutralize the taste? i dont know if honey is good for the liver.  
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the most important thing is vitamin d, it already proved to prevent cirrhosis in animals given toxic substances to make cirrhosis, only those given vit d in good amounts had no severe liver damage and no cirrhosis

it is also proven to cut hcc about 50% together with 4cups of coffee per day

other proven on several studies on liver, curcumin, resveratrol and glutathione

black seed with Honey is not deeply studied on hbv liver damage we have antinflammatory effect from general studies and also boosting immunity can be more liver damage if we dont get a clearance of hbsag
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last time i have checked vitamin D  mono supplement is not available. one time i saw combo with Calcium syrup, when i asked vitD mono they give me a weird looking they say this country needs no vitamin D  bcoz they got thru Sun exposure.  
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no sick persons have no vitamin d because it is blocked by pathogens and probably inflammation, impossible to get it from sun unless healthy and exposing a lot

there is a very high percentage of deficient vit d in arabic countries for example, how do you explain vit d deficiency in the desert.....

order good quality healthy origins, now foods, biotech, life extension from iherb or other online stores.the min dose for us is around 10.000iu, the less severe the disease the less vit d dose needed
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what should i do to normalize my vitamin D if im deficient ? can i do it with  Sun exposure. here always its sunny and some times very hot.
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no sun doesn t work on us because most of us has vit d receptor resistance due to hbv, genetics or inflammation, we dont know yet why but we know we have it

you ll see resistance from intact pth test as you take vit d suppleemnts, if intact pth does not go down there is resistance

high pth is also a problem because it promotes osteoporosis and immune suppression over decades of our life
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I have a high fibroscan value as well and I am trying to lower it down and avoid nucs, any advice would help at this point
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