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flaxseed oil

some mornings I'm just not hungry when its time to take my riba.  Is it ok to take a tablespoon of flaxseed oil instead. I want the fat  for the riba but I dont want to eat yet.  
I'm concerned because of the fiber levels in flaxseed and i dont want the riba to be washed out with the fs.
any comments or ideas?
lbl
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There is no fiber in the oil (unless added and the label should reflect this) I am doing the same thing but have no real idea if it is helpful. Just seems ok to me. jerry
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I always figured if I dont get an upset stomach or nausea after taking any meds, then its ok the fat has done its job, but with riba sometimes because of the sx you just dont know.  
I'll try it too.  
lbl
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You should be ok with just the oil and not the ground seeds as they do 'scrap and clean "the intestines...ill be taking virgin coconut with my riba...much more better for the body...do a google on...".the benefits of coconut oil"...YOU WILL BE AMAZED
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I was drinking coconut  milk for a while because I heard coconut oil raised cholesterol and was a "bad fat".  
I was talking to a nutritionist and she advised it wasnt good.
Since I am not a big believer of western medicine; dont get me wrong I will try all natural resources first before going prescription. So I chalked her off as just another nutritionist that probably doesnt do any additional research other than medical.
Thats why I love this forum so much many of you dont just go with the answer a doc give you, but take it one step further and say what can I do naturally to enhance what the medical world tells me to do.  
To some extent I did listen because I havent bought any more coconut products.
I will look into coconut oil.
Thanks rocker
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479244 tn?1271563659
I if you develop gas problems, it is probably the flax seed.  Just warnin' you.

I take very few supplements while on tx.  Too risky.  Save em for when you have completed tx. Very few do any good at all, save your money!

I suggest you go to:
http://www.quackwatch.org/

and read up on supplements.

bandman
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be careful of quackwatch  sites like these are there to scare you away from heatlh products ...some of the 'quack type sites" are funded by big Pharma and the commericial food industries...BELIVE IT OR NOT
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Quackwatch is certainly not the only source one should consult. That would be as big of a mistake as basing a decision only on an Internet product sales site full of anonymous testimonials. Personal care decisions should be made with inputs from various sources, from recommendations by a trusted clinician or friend, to personal experience and beliefs, to gold-standard scientific studies untainted by commercial interest.


http://www.healthcentral.com/breast-cancer/c/2385/12934/search-truth
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I currently take a calcium supplement, magnesium, potassium and biotin.
I am a 49yr old female so I feel I need those for the bones, teeth plus I live in the san joaquin valley in california and currently its in the 100's so need the potassium.  the biotin is for my hair and scalp.
I was taking a liquid multi but I always forget to take it because it sits in the fridge and not with the rest of my pills.
I difenitely (cant spell) rely on various sources.  and will look at all sites.  
thanks.
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479244 tn?1271563659

and guess what else?
There are times when I take my riba , drink a bottle of water and go back to bed in the morning!
And nothing happens, I just tried it one day to see what would happen, as I wanted to get some more sleep and getting something to eat always wakes me up.

I have done this several times since and never get sick.

bandman
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You can take ribavirin with or without food, but taking ribavirin with a high-fat meal increases its biovailability 45% over taking it in a fasting state.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/118552721/HTMLSTART

For this reason, I always took my ribavirin with my two largest meals of the day and made sure they contained adequate fat. According to my medical team, because riba has a long half life, the timing of the two doses isn't that important. I just made sure the doses were at least 4-5 hours apart.
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479244 tn?1271563659
I am so glad you reminded me of the fat angle...
I had completely forgotten!

bandman
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Did I read somewhere that calcium supplements should not be taken during tx because it reduces the absorption of riba?  Or maybe shouldn't be taken with riba but several hours later?
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Hey guy, I read here that if one takes riba and Alinia at the same time that they compete for absorption. Any thoughts on that. I mean how much fat can we eat. I don't think I can eat 4 30% fat meals a day. I already feel my appetite wanning. Never have been a big eater. I will turn to medical MJ if I have to, already got a vaporizer so I won't have to smoke it. What ya think? Alinia and riba together? thanks, jerry
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Sorry, I  don't know anything about fat absorption and Alinia. As to "4 30% fat meals per day", first of all, 30% fat isn't a very fat meal -- probably below average on an American diet -- and second, you only have to eat the high-fat meals with your riba dose, which most probably would be twice a day. The rest of the day/meals you could have no fat as far as riba absorption is concerned. It just matters when you take the riba.
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Hey, My understanding is that Alinia absorption ia also greatly enhanced by fat.  thanks, jerry
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479244 tn?1271563659
big difference...
quackwatch is a not for profit organization.

bluegreen algae is for profit.

bandman
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quack watch is out for profit by slandering natural heath products...as so people will buy big pharma drugs...you cant single out algae products saying that they are only out for profits out to make money..notning is free...if you dont like green drinks ..dont drink em...simple
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479244 tn?1271563659
how do you make profit by slandering natural health food products?

So quack watch if owned by the big pharm companies?  Doubt it.

Your logic leaves a lot to be desired.

bandman
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I am posting this because I am the c.e.o. of a major pharmaceutical company (whose name I can not mention)  and we are tired of losing profits due to the sell of blue green algae.

Blue-green algae (one of eleven groups of algae) are microscopic plants that grow mainly in brackish ponds and lakes throughout the world. Of the more than 1500 known species, some are useful as food, while others have been reported to cause gastroenteritis and hepatitis. Spirulina entered the limelight in 1981 when The National Enquirer promoted it as an "all natural," "safe diet pill" that contains phenylalanine (an amino acid), which "acts directly on the appetite center." The article also said it was "an incredible 65% protein, making it the most protein-packed food in the world."

In 1982, K.C. Laboratories of Klamath Falls, Oregon, and its president, Victor H. Kollman, began selling Blue Green Manna products (derived from another type of alga) with claims that they were effective against a wide range of health problems. In 1983, the FDA began legal action to stop the scheme, but marketing of the products did not stop. Finally, in 1986, at the agency's request, a U.S. District Court judge issued a permanent injunction ordering all parties involved to stop manufacturing, distributing, and selling blue-green algae harvested from Klamath Lake, Oregon.

At the trial on January 9, 1986, the government introduced additional evidence of the widespread use of blue-green algae Manna products, and of the therapeutic claims that were made for these products. Victor Kollman denied that he had made therapeutic claims. . . . Nevertheless he continued to claim his product has a beneficial effect on the human body . . . as a food, and not a drug. The government showed that taken at the recommended dosage of 1.5 grams, its value as a nutrient is negligible. Further, the cost of the defendant's products, which exceeds $300 per pound, is so high as compared to other sources of the same nutrients that it is apparent that these products are not intended to be used as a food.

At the 1986 trial, the defendants argued that because other algal products are sold as foods or food supplements, they too should be allowed to sell blue-green algae as food-changing the packaging, trade name, and distribution system if necessary. But the judge ruled that "the demand can no longer be controlled, even if the defendants have a desire to do it." Stating that Kollman had attempted to mislead not only the court but also purchasers of the products, the judge concluded that a permanent injunction was necessary to prevent the defendants from "benefiting from their past violations by meeting the demand they had created for their products." In other words, even if questionable claims were stopped, people who believed the previously made claims would still buy the products .

Although the judge's ruling appears to have ended the sale of Manna products, a similar line called Super Blue Green Algae is still marketed by Cell Tech Inc., a company headed by Kollman's brother Daryl. According to a company promotional tape, "By detoxifying your systems and balancing your nutritional levels, Super Blue Green provides your body and spirit with ingredients that result in experiences of increased energy, mental clarity, dietary control and feelings of overall well-being. This can enable people to deal with the many stresses of this modern world."

On May 5, 1999, the Canadian Health Protection Branch warned that products containing blue-green algae may contain toxins harmful to the liver and some species of blue-green algae naturally produce toxins known as microcystins.

Results of Health Canada's market survey testing of blue-green algal products show that no microcystins were detected in products made from only one type of blue-green algae, Spirulina blue-green algae, which is generally harvested from controlled ponds.

However, testing indicates that for many non-Spirulina blue-green algal products, harvested from natural lakes, consumption according to manufacturers directions results in a daily intake of microcystins above that considered acceptable by Health Canada and the World Health Organization. Microcystins are toxins which accumulate in the liver and can cause liver damage. They are naturally produced by some kinds of blue-green algae. Blue-green algal products are sold in tablet, capsule, or powder forms as food supplements, often as a natural source of minerals.

Based on the results, products made only from Spirulina blue-green algae are no longer considered a microcystin-related health risk.

Health Canada recommends that children not be given products containing the non-Spirulina blue-green algae until measures to address any risk have been implemented. Because of their lower body weight, children are at greater risk of developing serious illness from blue-green algal products containing elevated levels of microcystins, especially if these products are ingested for an extended period of time.

Adult consumers who choose to use products containing non-Spirulina blue-green algae should do so for short periods of time only.

The presence of blue-green algae (BGA) toxins in surface waters used for drinking water sources and recreation is receiving increasing attention around the world as a public health concern. . . .

Algae products contain no nutrients that are not readily available from food or ordinary dietary supplements that cost much less. Studies performed in countries where malnutrition is common have shown that administering spirulina (as food or tablets) can correct deficiencies of the few nutrients that spirulina contains. However, the commercially marketed algae products have no proven value for treating obesity or other human health problem, and some may contain potent toxins.
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According to the US National Library of Medicine, flaxseed oil may increase blood sugar levels.  

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-flaxseed.html


And high blood sugar is associated with insulin resistance (which lowers SVR).  

The Peg can cause high blood sugar.....and if your blood sugar goes up, long periods of fast cause it to go even higher.....meaning that it would be higher in the morning after not eating all night.....so taking the flaxseed oil on an empty stomach could make it even worse.
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What about taking a calcium supplement?  Doesn't that hinder the absorption of Riba?
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check it out rockerL

Who Funds Quackwatch?

Stephen Barrett, M.D.

Quackwatch is a nonprofit corporation whose purpose is to combat health-related frauds, myths, fads, and fallacies. Its primary focus is on quackery-related information that is difficult or impossible to get elsewhere. It was founded in 1969 as the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud and was incorporated in 1970. In 1997, it assumed its current name and began developing a worldwide network of volunteers and expert advisors.
Quackwatch, Inc., has no salaried employees. It operates with minimal expense, funded mainly by small individual donations, commissons from sales on other sites to which we refer, sponsored links, and profits from the sale of publications. If its income falls below what is needed for the research, the rest comes out of my pocket.
Many people wonder whether Quackwatch is a "front" for the American Medical Association, the pharmaceutical industry, the "medical establishment," or whomever else they might not like. Nearly every week I get e-mails accusing me of this—and worse. Quite frankly, the idea is preposterous.
Neither Quackwatch nor I have any financial ties to any commercial or industrial organization.
My viewpoints are not for hire. Even if they were, none of my imaginary funders would actually have a reason to hire me.
Standard medicine and "alternative medicine" do not actually compete for patient dollars. Well-designed studies have shown that most "alternative" methods are used in addition to—rather than instead of—standard methods.
The total cost of operating Quackwatch's many Web sites is approximately $7,000 per year.
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568322 tn?1370165440
"Ribavirin
Main drug interactions: Antacids (containing CALCIUM, magnesium, or simethicone ) may decrease the absorption of ribavirin."

http://www.natap.org/2005/HCV/020105_05.htm
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568322 tn?1370165440
Biotin can cause false high thyroid test results.  And your doctor may decide to stop the treatment if he thinks your thyroid is high.  
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