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Can you contract herpes without sex?

I had an genital rubbing with a lady, she was naked but I was not, had my underpants on. I am concern if certain part of my skin touch her can give me herpes because I read that skin to skin can spread herpes. Does this have to be genital to genital or any part of the skin?
Thank you in advance.
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At this point, our members have been very patient and answered your questions. All further questions regarding any diagnosis a doctor has given you should be directed to the doctor.

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It's really been explained to you.  Not sure there is much anyone else can say.  HSV 1 is very common and all you'd get from kissing.  It's cold sores and not serious.  You could get it from your mother.  HSV 2 is genital and you did nothing that could result in that happening.  So, it's time to let go of the anxiety that keeps you asking all of these questions.  Good luck
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Thank you Guiter Rox, it’s 3:27am in my State and I can’t sleep. Yes I have anxiety but my doubt is; whether I can get genital herpes from someone briefly sucking my penis. She talked about both hsv1 and genital herpes this confuses me. Please help me out I can sleep.
I volunteer here and am not therapy or a sleep aid.  If your anxiety is causing these kinds of issues, you need to talk to your doctor about it.  everything has been explained to you completely and if you are having issues understanding, again, talk to your doctor.  It's not our responsibility to soothe your nerves.  We just answer questions, which have been answered.  Good luck
Anything on the mouth is presumed hsv 1 which is NO big deal.  80 percent of the population has it.  So, talk to your doctor about anxiety which is the real issue here.  Again, good luck but there is nothing left to say about your exposure.
Guitar Rox, I explained to episodes here, am over with the kissing part, my worry now is I received blow job ( penis been sucked) briefly less than a minute twice; am asking if these encounters can give me genital herpes.
It would be unlikely hsv1 was passed during oral sex for your less than a minute twice and a doctor wouldn't test you for it unless you had symptoms. This is classic anxious over thinking.  Unless you do something about your anxiety, you will end up not enjoying your sex life.  So, talk to your doctor about anxiety.  Wear a condom for oral from now on.  But hsv 1 on genitals hardly ever happens and you don't describe anything that would lead anyone to think it happened to you. This is my last post.  Good luck
Thank you, appreciated.
So I did the test yesterday and the doctor phoned me this morning that the samples came normal, I have the hsv1 but not the genital herpes. What are the implications of this to my partner and even unborn children?
Not much.  If you have a cold sore, maybe use some topical ointment on it and don't kiss.  otherwise, it's not a big deal.  Said at least 3 or 5 times on this thread alone, 80 percent plus of the population has hsv 1, which is COLD SORES.  Take care.
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It has to be direct genital to genital. Herpes doesn't go through clothing, so this encounter is no risk.
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Thank you auntiejessi, this helps but I now found my self in a more worrying situation; I thought saliva reduces or kills viruses before they spread, thus thinking kissing is harmless until I read on the internet that herpes virus can be spread through kissing too. Yesterday I gave someone a bare hand massage robbed her buttocks with my palms and later gave her a brief kiss which did not last for more than a minute. What are my chances of contracting the herpes if the lady happens to have herpes?
Thank you.
Okay, let's start over.

There are two types of herpes that we are talking about here. Herpes simplex 1, or hsv1, and herpes simplex 2, or hsv2.

If someone has oral herpes, it's almost always hsv1. A lot of people refer to these sores as cold sores or fever blisters. That can be transmitted by kissing. About half the adult population has hsv1. You can also get hsv1 genitally, transmitted by oral sex. The kissing needs to have some friction.

You may already have hsv1 orally and not know it. About 90% of people who do never get any symptoms.

Hsv2 is almost always genital. This is transmitted by direct genital to genital contact, usually penetrative vaginal or anal sex, but can be naked grinding or rubbing if there is a lot of friction (that's not nearly as likely).

Herpes doesn't go through clothing, and it is only infectious from the site of infection. If someone has oral herpes, they are only contagious from their mouth. If they have genital herpes, they are only contagious from their genitals. You can not get herpes from someone by touching their arms, back, legs, etc. You won't get it from using your hands on their genitals.

Saliva can kill some viruses. It doesn't kill herpes, which is spread by direct skin to skin contact. Your chances of getting herpes from this encounter only come from the kissing. The rest of it is no risk, and the kissing is something I wouldn't even worry about.

No one wants herpes, but why are you so afraid of it? If half the adult population has hsv1, chances are good that you've already kissed someone with it, or will. It's just not that big of a deal.
And please keep all your questions to this thread. It's easier for me to keep track of here.
Insightful breakdown there auntiejessi, I never knew about all this before, and like you said I might already contract it before this encounter although there was no friction in this one. I remember during my last December trip to Africa, two ladies on a different day tried or suck my penis without condom briefly and I stop them, I asked them to do it with condom or leave it. I guess the damage was already done because they put my penis In their mouths even if it was for few seconds. Am now more worried since your explanation indicates that a herpes person can infect a non herpes person orally. I don’t know if they have it as many will not know their status.
What’s your take on this. Thank you once again.
I think that you are overly worried about herpes if you haven't had any symptoms, and I'm not sure why.

You are going to be exposed to hsv1 in your lifetime, if you haven't already (you most definitely have already). Your parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, likely have it. Many people get it as children orally when a well-intentioned adult kiss them. Have you had a blood test to see if you have hsv1 already? You can ask for a type specific IgG blood test to find out.

There's a lot of ridiculous stigma around herpes for a virus that at least half the population has. Obviously, no one wants it, nor should anyone try to get it, but your fear for it is out of proportion.

I don't see any reason to believe you have it genitally if you've never had symptoms.

Have you ever talked to anyone about anxiety?  

I have anxiety for over 5 years, from 2012 to 2017. I had an unprotected sex and thought I have hiv, I did the test and and it came negative but still don’t believe in the test. I was convinced after my second test in US here.
One more clarification please as am not concerned with hsv1 more compared to before, my question is; if those two encounters I stated earlier about different or two ladies briefly sucking my penis for less than a minute in both occasions, if they have hsv1 or cold sores can that give me hsv2?
So if you got genital herpes from oral sex, that would be genital herpes type 1, not genital herpes type 2. The number indicates the strain of the virus, not the location.

You could get genital hsv1 from receiving oral sex if your partner has oral hsv1, but not genital hsv2. Genital hsv2 is only spread by direct, unclothed genital to genital contact, almost always penetrative vaginal or anal sex. Condoms reduce the risk significantly, but do not eliminate it.

So genital herpes 1 (hsv1) is different from cold sores? I think if the partner has it in her mouth which is presume to be cold sores, me receiving oral sex can only get hsv1 ( cold sores)? But bringing genital herpes 1 sounds to me like I have the genital herpes be it 1 or 2. Or is it that every herpes is called genital herpes?
Am sorry for asking too many questions but I can’t help it.
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