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Painkiller Ban
A Food and Drug Administration panel voted this week to pull from the market drugs that contain a combination of narcotics and acetaminophen, including Vicodin and Percocet. The concern is it can cause liver damage when taken in too high of a dose. The worry is obviously those who abuse these drugs and take them in too high of dosages. Doctors say the drugs are safe when taken correctly.
So, in other words. they are willing to pull drugs that are very effective for pain treatment because of a fear of abuse from some people. The only problem is, they will then have to come up with another type of painkiller that could be a weaker narcotic, causing unnecessary pain and discomfort, or a stronger one which could increase the risk of addiction.
So, let me get this straight. They want to pull very affective painkillers (which can only be prescribed by doctors) because they're afraid people will abuse them and may wind up replacing them with painkillers that can become addictive. Huh?
This is what frightens me, people. We keep dumbing down our society and treating people as if they can't be trusted just because a few can't. Most of us would take the medication properly but because a few people abuse it, the rest of us would have to suffer.
What would be next? Shall we pull Twinkies off the shelves because some people may eat too much thus causing diabetes, obestity, etc.? How about alcohol? After all, even though most of us know how to drink sensibly and not abuse alcohol or get behind the wheel of a car after drinking and killing someone else, there would be some who would abuse it, so therefore I think we should pull all alcohol.
Where does it stop? Why should the ones who are doing the right thing suffer because there's some who can't seem to do that?
I have taken both of these drugs after surgeries and didn't abuse them. I took them for a week or so until my pain was manageable and that was it. The doctor only prescribed a certain amount, too, usually just a couple of weeks worth. Why can't they just do that? Why not have the doctors limit the amount they gave out?
It is a very affective drug for easing pain. What worries me is if people will have to suffer more now with pain because they're afraid a few may abuse it.
The FDA hasn't made an official decision yet so doctors are still prescribing the drugs. I was given a prescription to fill for my daughter since she will be getting her wisdom teeth pulled at the end of this month. I guess I'd better go ahead and fill it to make sure she'll be able to have it.
This really, really concerns me, folks. What are everyone's thoughts on this?
So, in other words. they are willing to pull drugs that are very effective for pain treatment because of a fear of abuse from some people. The only problem is, they will then have to come up with another type of painkiller that could be a weaker narcotic, causing unnecessary pain and discomfort, or a stronger one which could increase the risk of addiction.
So, let me get this straight. They want to pull very affective painkillers (which can only be prescribed by doctors) because they're afraid people will abuse them and may wind up replacing them with painkillers that can become addictive. Huh?
This is what frightens me, people. We keep dumbing down our society and treating people as if they can't be trusted just because a few can't. Most of us would take the medication properly but because a few people abuse it, the rest of us would have to suffer.
What would be next? Shall we pull Twinkies off the shelves because some people may eat too much thus causing diabetes, obestity, etc.? How about alcohol? After all, even though most of us know how to drink sensibly and not abuse alcohol or get behind the wheel of a car after drinking and killing someone else, there would be some who would abuse it, so therefore I think we should pull all alcohol.
Where does it stop? Why should the ones who are doing the right thing suffer because there's some who can't seem to do that?
I have taken both of these drugs after surgeries and didn't abuse them. I took them for a week or so until my pain was manageable and that was it. The doctor only prescribed a certain amount, too, usually just a couple of weeks worth. Why can't they just do that? Why not have the doctors limit the amount they gave out?
It is a very affective drug for easing pain. What worries me is if people will have to suffer more now with pain because they're afraid a few may abuse it.
The FDA hasn't made an official decision yet so doctors are still prescribing the drugs. I was given a prescription to fill for my daughter since she will be getting her wisdom teeth pulled at the end of this month. I guess I'd better go ahead and fill it to make sure she'll be able to have it.
This really, really concerns me, folks. What are everyone's thoughts on this?
Wow, Teko, I'm surprised! I didn't think they'd give Morphine for that long like that! When I was in the hospital for my last surgery I was there for about 5 days and had a Morphine drip that I could control. However, after about 3 days they wanted me to cut back on it because they said it was too powerful and I could get addicted. So the last two days I didn't have the Morphine at all. They discontinued it and gave me something not quite as strong (I can't remember what it was) but it worked fine. I didn't even think Morphine was given outside of a hospital stay as I've only had it my last two surgeries.
That is the problem! drs who tell people such mess, just because they don't want to deal with the problem. That gets me off on another tangent...drs aren't in the healing business anymore, they are on the Rx writing business.
Is there any way your son can see a chiropracter? they might be able to help.
That morphine is nothing play with. But he needs to do something because of the pain. But, he needs to realize if he gets addicted to the morphine and lortabs, he will have 2 problems not just one.
I sure hate you are having to watch your son go through this. It is awful to see our kids in pain.
Is there any way your son can see a chiropracter? they might be able to help.
That morphine is nothing play with. But he needs to do something because of the pain. But, he needs to realize if he gets addicted to the morphine and lortabs, he will have 2 problems not just one.
I sure hate you are having to watch your son go through this. It is awful to see our kids in pain.
People would be amazed at how little the doctors really know about side effects and addiction capabilities of the drugs they dispense. My son has a herniated disk in his neck and a pinched nerve in his arm. So he goes to the doctor and the doctor prescibes lortab. It did good for a couple of hours and then the pain came back. He was eating those things like crazy! So he goes back and tels the doc that the meds are not working very long and the doc adds Morphine to the mix. Told him to take them and pt for a month and then come back. Now does anyone else see a problem with that? In a months time he will be addicted! So after a month if no improvement, which we all know there will not be any, he will go back and they will schedule surgery. Then more drugs. I am scared for him and he is in so much pain that he will take those pills no matter what just to get relief. And a month from now he will be addicted. I just dont know what the answer is.
Well done peaceinknowing you have cracked it and your thread was informative and true,I can hear the determination there to stay drug free, it isnt only pain pills it is all the anti depressants and GAD meds that they acknowledge are addictive like Xanax ...I also agree with you Peggy64 it is our own responsibility what we decide to put into our mouths ,but sometimes when you are in pain or depressed you do follow that "trusted' Doctors who dish it out like candy ,supplied by the drug companies in samples fopr us all.
Bottom line is we are wanting the government to control whether people get addicted or not. I am to watch myself if I am on pain pills, and monitor that. It is not the governments job. To me that is just another passing the buck on responsibility. i want to be responsible for me.
Why not do like April suggest, blame the government because people eat to much, and the smoking? that causes more damage overall than trouble with vicoden or percocet. Next we will want to blame the government because they didn't stop people from smoking which we KNOW leads to emphysema, COPD, lung cancer, among other health related issues. Not to mention the damage the smoke does to the environment, and the odor....so lets blame the government because they won't stop people from smoking.
the people that smoke can sue the government when they get cancer because it says cigarettes causes cancer, yet the government still lets them sell and buy, so the government is not to be trusted either.
I do not trust drs, and before I take anything they give me, I do a study on it. They don't have my best interest in mind. They just want to write a rx.
People know that drugs like that are addictive. there is not a person in the US, that started taking those that did not know they were addictive. Lets get back to personal responsibility.
Why not do like April suggest, blame the government because people eat to much, and the smoking? that causes more damage overall than trouble with vicoden or percocet. Next we will want to blame the government because they didn't stop people from smoking which we KNOW leads to emphysema, COPD, lung cancer, among other health related issues. Not to mention the damage the smoke does to the environment, and the odor....so lets blame the government because they won't stop people from smoking.
the people that smoke can sue the government when they get cancer because it says cigarettes causes cancer, yet the government still lets them sell and buy, so the government is not to be trusted either.
I do not trust drs, and before I take anything they give me, I do a study on it. They don't have my best interest in mind. They just want to write a rx.
People know that drugs like that are addictive. there is not a person in the US, that started taking those that did not know they were addictive. Lets get back to personal responsibility.
I just read the above mentioned post, and I must agree with Lesa on this one. I'm an addict, but I stand [or sit and type] before you with the ability to tell you that I'm 19 days sober from Percocet. Although a lot of people have opinions on "people like me" I can honestly say to you that the real problem doesn;t necessarily always lie within the person who is abusing the drugs; But within the doctors who prescribe a 26 year old female 100 pills every two weeks and tells them to take it whether they're in pain at that time or not, because if she doesn't, there will be more injuries to both her knee as well as her back.
To most normal people out there, doctors are people for whom we place immense amounts of trust in when we go to them about something that exceeds everything and that is our health. To some people, doctors are almost like God. You don't question their knowledge and you do as you're told, period. These are the men and women of healthcare that have paid close to a million dollars to complete courses at a high end university to become the ones who are either educated when it comes to what they are writing scripts out for or not. In my case, my doctor was far from what you and I would sit down and have a conversation about educated.
When I told my doctor that I was freightened to take as many pills as he had written me for, he told me not to worry. He had MANY patients on a much more higher dose and took it more frequently as well. This gave me what I thought would be reassurance and an answer from someone who was.... Educated.
Three weeks ago, I called my doctor and stated to him that I felt as though I was becoming addicted and dependant on the pills, and I wanted to get off of them now. What did he do you ask? Oh, it was simple... He told me I was a drug addict, hung up the phone and lead me to call the Joint Comission on him. To make a long story short, I've been informed that they are now looking into reducing his patient number to 50% of what he has been accessing as of late. Not only that, but there has been mentionings to me that there will be a letter sent out to every one of his patients, informing them of what has happened. When I asked what they are going to do in regard to educating these doctors about the pain pills they are freely writing to their patients, they responded to me that more than likely, he will be prompted to take a two year course in dealing with addiction, dependancy and courses that teach doctors what it is to write out a script, and what they need to know about the pills.
Not every pain pill "addict" is the reason for the above mentioned post, so I suggest each and every one of you keep this in mind. Am I mad at you for posting this thread? Absolutely not. You know why? Because my life is so GREAT right now because I'm almost 20 days sober from the pills my doctor basically shoved down my throat after I went to him NUMEROUS times, telling him that I didn't feel like this was right. However, I do suggest that a little more efforts should be put forth when trying to educate other people on something such as this. It's best we all know what we are talking about before we well.... Talk about it, right?
To most normal people out there, doctors are people for whom we place immense amounts of trust in when we go to them about something that exceeds everything and that is our health. To some people, doctors are almost like God. You don't question their knowledge and you do as you're told, period. These are the men and women of healthcare that have paid close to a million dollars to complete courses at a high end university to become the ones who are either educated when it comes to what they are writing scripts out for or not. In my case, my doctor was far from what you and I would sit down and have a conversation about educated.
When I told my doctor that I was freightened to take as many pills as he had written me for, he told me not to worry. He had MANY patients on a much more higher dose and took it more frequently as well. This gave me what I thought would be reassurance and an answer from someone who was.... Educated.
Three weeks ago, I called my doctor and stated to him that I felt as though I was becoming addicted and dependant on the pills, and I wanted to get off of them now. What did he do you ask? Oh, it was simple... He told me I was a drug addict, hung up the phone and lead me to call the Joint Comission on him. To make a long story short, I've been informed that they are now looking into reducing his patient number to 50% of what he has been accessing as of late. Not only that, but there has been mentionings to me that there will be a letter sent out to every one of his patients, informing them of what has happened. When I asked what they are going to do in regard to educating these doctors about the pain pills they are freely writing to their patients, they responded to me that more than likely, he will be prompted to take a two year course in dealing with addiction, dependancy and courses that teach doctors what it is to write out a script, and what they need to know about the pills.
Not every pain pill "addict" is the reason for the above mentioned post, so I suggest each and every one of you keep this in mind. Am I mad at you for posting this thread? Absolutely not. You know why? Because my life is so GREAT right now because I'm almost 20 days sober from the pills my doctor basically shoved down my throat after I went to him NUMEROUS times, telling him that I didn't feel like this was right. However, I do suggest that a little more efforts should be put forth when trying to educate other people on something such as this. It's best we all know what we are talking about before we well.... Talk about it, right?
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