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Excessive stomach acid- stomach attacks
I have had lived with stomach pain for years. Most recently, completed a 30 day omeprazole treatment with a reflux diagnosis. Three days after completion of med. symptoms returned. I have a burning sensation in my stomach and naussea tha is worse in the night. It is strong enough to wake me. I do not wish to live on omeprazole but don't want stomach attacks to return where the pain is sharp and prohibits me from standing. Any thoughts on why I may overproduce stomach acid or what may be going on? Thx!
Thx! I have about half of those symptoms. The internal med. doctor has referred me to another gastroenterologist. So we'll see what they find. She said in the mean time I can take prilosec as needed (i.e. One day at a time if needed instead of 14 or 30 days courses).
Gallbladder attack symptoms are listed below .
GALLBLADDER SYMPTOMS
Pain or tenderness under the rib cage on the right side
Pain between shoulder blades
Stools light or chalky colored
Indigestion after eating, especially fatty or greasy foods
Nausea
Dizziness
Bloating
Gas
Burping or belching
Feeling of fullness or food not digesting
Diarrhea (or alternating from soft to watery)
Constipation
Headache over eyes, especially right
Bitter fluid comes up after eating
Frequent use of laxatives
GALLBLADDER SYMPTOMS
Pain or tenderness under the rib cage on the right side
Pain between shoulder blades
Stools light or chalky colored
Indigestion after eating, especially fatty or greasy foods
Nausea
Dizziness
Bloating
Gas
Burping or belching
Feeling of fullness or food not digesting
Diarrhea (or alternating from soft to watery)
Constipation
Headache over eyes, especially right
Bitter fluid comes up after eating
Frequent use of laxatives
Wow, Ive only been checked for h pylori once recently but think its possibly correct. My reasoning is that the course of omeprazole alleviated symptoms (while on it) I am thinking the bacteria would have thrived in that condition exhaserbating my symptoms is h pylori were preaent.
On the gal bladder, they did an u/s about 2 months ago. At that time they saw no stones. The er doc who ordered the u/s said I may have another condition where stones are not present but my gal bladder is inflammed and removal would be a solution.
My internal medicine doctor slightly dissagreed with his diagnosis bc she (through applying pressure to my abdomen) found I was in significant pain when pressure was applied to my stomach. However, I definately had gal bladder pain a few days prior when I checked into the er.
I go back to my internal medicine doctor tommorrow. She stated at the previous visit that is omeprazole didnt fix me theyd use a camera to look for stones and run another test usuing dye. She said some stones are not detectable via u/s. Im suspisious I may have two issues, and wonder if one causes the other. I.e. stomach acid caused by gal bladder dysfunction. But, I also wonder if Im not passing stones as there have been 5 days in the past three months that are markedly painful in my gal bladder.
I will update with what the internal medicine doctor says... Thx again Selma. I will ask her about magnesium too.
On the gal bladder, they did an u/s about 2 months ago. At that time they saw no stones. The er doc who ordered the u/s said I may have another condition where stones are not present but my gal bladder is inflammed and removal would be a solution.
My internal medicine doctor slightly dissagreed with his diagnosis bc she (through applying pressure to my abdomen) found I was in significant pain when pressure was applied to my stomach. However, I definately had gal bladder pain a few days prior when I checked into the er.
I go back to my internal medicine doctor tommorrow. She stated at the previous visit that is omeprazole didnt fix me theyd use a camera to look for stones and run another test usuing dye. She said some stones are not detectable via u/s. Im suspisious I may have two issues, and wonder if one causes the other. I.e. stomach acid caused by gal bladder dysfunction. But, I also wonder if Im not passing stones as there have been 5 days in the past three months that are markedly painful in my gal bladder.
I will update with what the internal medicine doctor says... Thx again Selma. I will ask her about magnesium too.
It is strange the meds that we can not tolerate and how they affect us, I was never able to take birth control, it always had a negative effect on me.
U may want to try the probiotics every other day, and on the off day try a low dose of magnesium....but talk to ur Dr.....I found this helpful for me.
How many times did they test u for the H.Pylori?..It took Drs at least 3 tests b4 they found it in my dad.....not sure how they miss it,but they can.
Also, have u had ur Gall Bladder checked?
"selma"
Oh I also started probiotics a few weeks ago. :) They have reaolved my cronic constipation associated with excess stomach acid but not the stomach pain.
Ah I see. Thank you for that information Selma. I will try chewing when my stomach starts burning to see if it helps. No wonder Ive always liked to chew gum. :)
I waa checked for h pylori, helobacter, amd one c. something. All negative. Good news kinda. Nobody (doctors) seems to be able to isolate the cause. :(
I have also been scoped (both ways) with no indicatiin of any of the diseases they were checking for- celiac, crohns etc.
I did suffer an 8month bout of collitis but that cleared when I stopped ortho tricyclen. I dont know if that is helpful information too. My sugar substitute intollerance developed around that time as did an intollerance to many foods. Once I quit the ortho tricyclen I tollerated food again, except for the sugar substitutes.
I waa checked for h pylori, helobacter, amd one c. something. All negative. Good news kinda. Nobody (doctors) seems to be able to isolate the cause. :(
I have also been scoped (both ways) with no indicatiin of any of the diseases they were checking for- celiac, crohns etc.
I did suffer an 8month bout of collitis but that cleared when I stopped ortho tricyclen. I dont know if that is helpful information too. My sugar substitute intollerance developed around that time as did an intollerance to many foods. Once I quit the ortho tricyclen I tollerated food again, except for the sugar substitutes.
The physical act of chewing increases the flow of saliva in your mouth. If you chew after eating, the increased salivary flow can help neutralize and wash away the acids that are produced when food is broken down by the bacteria in plaque on your teeth. Over time, acid can break down tooth enamel, creating the conditions for decay. Increased saliva flow also carries with it more calcium and phosphate to help strengthen tooth enamel. Clinical studies have shown that chewing sugarless gum for 20 minutes following meals can help prevent tooth decay.
One novel approach to the treatment of GERD is chewing gum. Chewing gum stimulates the production of more bicarbonate-containing saliva and increases the rate of swallowing. After the saliva is swallowed, it neutralizes acid in the esophagus. In effect, chewing gum exaggerates one of the normal processes that neutralize acid in the esophagus. It is not clear, however, how effective chewing gum actually is in treating heartburn. Nevertheless, chewing gum after meals is certainly worth a try.
As the above poster mentioned, if ur Dr has not done so already u may want to be checked for H.Pylori....if u test positive, it can take several courses of antibiotics, which can also trigger more reflux...so also talk to ur Dr about probiotics after u r done with the antibiotics...as they kill all bacteria, the good along with the bad, and we need the good to break down our food.
One novel approach to the treatment of GERD is chewing gum. Chewing gum stimulates the production of more bicarbonate-containing saliva and increases the rate of swallowing. After the saliva is swallowed, it neutralizes acid in the esophagus. In effect, chewing gum exaggerates one of the normal processes that neutralize acid in the esophagus. It is not clear, however, how effective chewing gum actually is in treating heartburn. Nevertheless, chewing gum after meals is certainly worth a try.
As the above poster mentioned, if ur Dr has not done so already u may want to be checked for H.Pylori....if u test positive, it can take several courses of antibiotics, which can also trigger more reflux...so also talk to ur Dr about probiotics after u r done with the antibiotics...as they kill all bacteria, the good along with the bad, and we need the good to break down our food.
Selma thank you :). I would chew regular gum but I have so many dental problems and my intollerance to sugar substitutes limits a lot of what a dentist can use to help my teeth. Thats a whole other health concern. Good news is Toms of Maine toothpaste makes a childrens version I can tollerate. Otherwise Id be using baking soda.
Im really curious though. How does saliva break up stomach acid? Thx again for your input.
Im really curious though. How does saliva break up stomach acid? Thx again for your input.
Then chew on something that will cause saliva to be produced....if u want to shew regular gum.....then by all means do so, I only said sugar free so that I was not going to suggest something that may add sugar to ur diet if u could not have it.
Have u modified ur diet and lifestyle?
Thx! I have seen multiple doctors all who've told me the excess of acid in my stomach is leading to inflamation of the lining of my stomach. But they keep rx'ing omeprazole and its only a temporary solution as the burning sensation comes back once I finish the course of medicine. The last, an internal medicine doctor, diagnosed me with reflux. I suppose that could be but it is limited to my stomach and occasional spill over to my gal bladder.
Does anyone else suffer from this?
Some helpful info: I am completely intollerant to sugar substitutes ie xylitol, aspartame, sorbitol... They cause headaches and digestive upset similiar to the stomach flu. So sugar free gum is out. I used to chew it before I developed this intollerance.
Any natural methods or plausible causes for excess stomach acid? My doc said stress. But, I have had this for over 20 years...
thank you
Does anyone else suffer from this?
Some helpful info: I am completely intollerant to sugar substitutes ie xylitol, aspartame, sorbitol... They cause headaches and digestive upset similiar to the stomach flu. So sugar free gum is out. I used to chew it before I developed this intollerance.
Any natural methods or plausible causes for excess stomach acid? My doc said stress. But, I have had this for over 20 years...
thank you
Hi...it sounds like u had testing and know u have high acid and that ur body over produces it....
I am curious as to what ur Dr suggested, but in the meantime u may want to try and chew gum, sugar free if u prefer, and no peppermint....but the chewing causes more saliva to be produced and it helps break down the stomach acid u have too much of...so it may help u a bit until u see the dr or in addition to meds.
Good luck and do keep us posted
"selma"
There is an easy home test you can do to roughly determine high or low stomach acid called the baking soda test (sodium bicarbonate, not baking powder). The Heidelberg Capsule Test is the scientific version of the baking soda test.
The baking soda test.
Mix 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, not baking powder) in an 8 ounce glass and drink it.
If sufficient quantities of acid are present in the stomach, bicarbonate of soda is converted into gas, producing significant bloating and belching within 5 or 10 minutes of drinking the mix. Little or no belching is suspicious for low stomach acid.
Supplement wise, digestive enzyme supplements help with digestion (can be used for high and low stomach acid) and betaine HCI with pepsin increases stomach acid. Apple cider vinegar is a old home remedy to help with low stomach acid.
The baking soda test.
Mix 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, not baking powder) in an 8 ounce glass and drink it.
If sufficient quantities of acid are present in the stomach, bicarbonate of soda is converted into gas, producing significant bloating and belching within 5 or 10 minutes of drinking the mix. Little or no belching is suspicious for low stomach acid.
Supplement wise, digestive enzyme supplements help with digestion (can be used for high and low stomach acid) and betaine HCI with pepsin increases stomach acid. Apple cider vinegar is a old home remedy to help with low stomach acid.
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