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Sudden onset of pain in both knees--unexplained

Subject had no prior history of knee pain or knee injuries.  Subject is 66 year old man, 5' 11" 290lbs in good health. He stated has always liked to walk, ski, dance, and was otherwise active.   On August 24, 2008, after about 4 miles walk subject reported he woke up, next morning, with pain in BOTH knees. Subject also reported being in the Middle East in June 2008, and having had a short affair with an attractive woman in her 40s.  STD. lyme, other blood tests were negative.  
In September he was referred to Orthopedic Sport Clinic's knee specialist, X rays, were negative, but for some minor thinning of the meniscuses' and also the left knee showed a small bone spur, but not associated with the area of pain, i.e., on the  interior side of and inside both knees, often causing stiffening of the calf muscles.
At the time of this visit, Subject reported--since August the pain in left knee subsided about 80 percent, but not the right.  In a follow-up MRI of the right knee, the Radiologist's report was negative, but for some signs of minor inflammation, which he attributed to arthritis(?). However, 8 weeks later, subject reports pain in right knee has subsided about 70 percent, but now left knee pain has flared up more than ever. Subject reports pain responds well to Naproxin 375mg once a day.  Specialist also fitted him with knee braces,  Rx exercise and wait loss.  
What is troubling no prior history of arthritis, and currently only problem is with both knees and the sudden onset of pain in both knees, overnight.  




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Follow up---

So since my first post I have discovered my liver is very overloaded and compromised which has been causing my knee pain. I started taking doTerra's Turmeric capsules 2x a day, Every Day Detox tea by Traditional Medicine as well as milk thistle tea for liver & kidney support,. I'm drinking lemon water 1-2x a day starting first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, and doing coffee enemas 3x a week. My pain has significantly lessened and I feel like I'm on the right path.

I also discovered in doing the coffee enemas that I have an abundance of  liver flukes... a parasite that causes all sorts of healthy issues. I will be incorporating some all natural antifungal/antiparasitic herbs to kill them very soon. I have also changed my diet to a sugar free, dairy free, gluten free diet as these little suckers multiply and feed off sugar. Hope this helps someone else who may have similar problems. Good luck.
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well, that's good you have found a way to reduce your pain!!  love to hear that, man.
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Double Knee sudden Pain Onset -  I usually acquire gout after I splurge on Oysters on the Half Shell (can't resist ordering more)... BUT, I've had no Gout inducing foods Since I returned (Nov. 16) from a Philippines Vacation.  I noted in the above message... Xrays could show Gout? Really? Well, I'll receive the results of my Xrays on Monday from the VA.

The pain was horrible to extent of not being able to stand from a sitting position. It's been an increasing onset of pain into both knees over an 8 day period culminating in the Doctor's Visit. (They think it might be Arthritis).

The Question is Xrays can show 'gout'?    thanks - Mike D.
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I also am experiencing sudden onset bilateral knee pain. I'm a retired nurse and have no clue what is going on with me.  Ice helps.  I'm on Celebrex because I have osteoarthritis since I was 33. I'm now 60.  I never had problems with my knees.  I really  need help!
I know these are old post but it is one of the few post I found that match my problem.  The symptoms that Scotty410 describe match mine.  I woke up one morning with both knees hurting.  I'm a female and this started when I was 53.  I am still having problem a year later with this.  Some days are better than others.  I had X-rays and a MRI with negative problems.  I did have a blood test too,  which showed no Lyme disease or rheumatoid arthritis. The only thing it did show was low on iron and D.  Started taking vitamins which seems to help just a bit.  I'm a female and this started when I was 53.  I am still having problem a year later with this.  I'm in good shape and of average weight.  The doctors do not know what to do and look at me like I'm crazy.  They say arthritis.  It is hard to believe that such pain would hit both knees and not graduating start on one side.  Any ideals would be welcome.
I have the same thing! Woke up one morning 2 weeks ago and had pain on both my inner knees with no explanation. I have not injured myself, nor have I ever had any arthritis. I have had creaky, weak outer knees for the past 17 years but that area has actually gotten somewhat stronger over the years. I do have psoriasis, and have had it since the age of 13, it runs in my family.  Could it be psoriatic arthritis? What makes no sense is the sudden onset. It hurts to walk, and if I twist my leg in any way it really hurts. I have to sleep with a pillow between my knees for comfort. I haven't been to a Dr. yet because I don't have faith it won't be a big waste of time and money but I need to do something. I'm 52 and scared I won't be able to continue working for the next 15 years.. I have no retirement saved and need to work.
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As stated above STD. Lyme, and CBC, etc...were all negative, and so were the X-rays and MRI...and no injuries or dislocations... however, as to gout or lupus, would normal blood work reveal this?  Also, a single, white head pimple appeared on the left knee cap about 16 weeks later and then 18 weeks later on the left, a single one appeared.  As precaution Doxycyline Hyclate 100mg 2xd was Rx...each time.  The pimples may, or may not, have been reaction to topical nsiad that was being used, or perhaps a sign of some other problem? Patient also showed some iron type discloration of ankles, ulta sound circulation  tests were also negative.
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Hi,

It is good that xray and MRI of the knee and other tests showed good results.  Was there blood test done?  This will help rule out infection or presence of gout. Knee pain usually results from arthritis (rheumatoid, osteoarthritis, and gout), baker's cyst, bursitis, connective tissue disorders such as lupus, dislocation of the kneecap, iIliotibial band syndrome, infection or any trauma or abnormalities in the structures in the knee. Many causes of knee pain, especially those related to overuse or physical activity, respond well to self-care such as resting and applying ice to the affected area. At this point, follow your doctor's orders and have him go for regular follow-up for monitoring. Take care and keep us posted.
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