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Hi. I received oral sex on 5th March. Feeling stressed about it I went to the gum clinic 14 day post exposure and got tested for chlamydia, gonorrhoea and syphilis. They also done a dawn test that came back clear. I also got tested privately 18 days post exposure.
About 1 week after tests I went back to clinic as feeling a little weird in penis. Another swab test done, came back slightly night white cell count. (Only just over). I was given 7 days doxycyline. Took the meda and they did nothing so tool 1 gram azthrimicin. Again, this done nothing. Waited 2 weeks after taking azthrimicin and went back to the clinic. Spoke to doctor about continuing symptoms. Another swab test taken, this time came back within normal range although he did say that there were a few white blood cells still there but in normal range <5 wbc.
I was still very stressed about this so I waited a further week and got a test done for mycoplasma Genitalium and UU by PCR. Results came back negitive for both. Was wondering about hsv1 but I don't and never have had any blisters on penis. Also, my wife has cold sores and I have never had any issues.
It is now post 6 weeks since symptoms started and still no relief. Worried that I might infect my partner despite negitive for all std.
Any advice would be most welcome.
Thanks
About 1 week after tests I went back to clinic as feeling a little weird in penis. Another swab test done, came back slightly night white cell count. (Only just over). I was given 7 days doxycyline. Took the meda and they did nothing so tool 1 gram azthrimicin. Again, this done nothing. Waited 2 weeks after taking azthrimicin and went back to the clinic. Spoke to doctor about continuing symptoms. Another swab test taken, this time came back within normal range although he did say that there were a few white blood cells still there but in normal range <5 wbc.
I was still very stressed about this so I waited a further week and got a test done for mycoplasma Genitalium and UU by PCR. Results came back negitive for both. Was wondering about hsv1 but I don't and never have had any blisters on penis. Also, my wife has cold sores and I have never had any issues.
It is now post 6 weeks since symptoms started and still no relief. Worried that I might infect my partner despite negitive for all std.
Any advice would be most welcome.
Thanks
Strange feeling at end of urethra. Almost like there is a feeling of discharge but there is none. Just feels weird. Maybe I am paying too much attention to it.
I was thinking that. I have had all these tests come back negitive so there can't be any std in the real sense of the word. It's just weird because it can on so suddenly just after I had been to the clinic. Had urine culture done that failed to find any markers for infection. Chlamydia, gonorrhoea, syph, mycoplasma and ureaplasma all negative. I should also mention that me and my wife occasionally have anal sex. I suppose ngu could be the result of that practice. Suppose I will never know.l what it is even if it doesn't go away.
Do you have any suggestions as to how to proceed?
Many thanks
Do you have any suggestions as to how to proceed?
Many thanks
Yes NGU could be from anal sex as bacteria like ecoli would do that.
How to proceed...just move on and forget about it.
How to proceed...just move on and forget about it.
went back to the clinic on monday and had another swab done. came back completely normal with no puss cells found at all. I asked the doctor if it was reasonable to assume that i may have never had ngu in the first place for the following reasons.
first swab done was negative for nsu.
second swab done 1.5 weeks later was slightly over 5 wbc
third swab done 3 weeks later was within normal range but with a few wbc
fourth swab test done 3 weeks later was completely normal.
spoke with doctor at length. he said that anxiety was a major factor making me squeeze and examine my penis, thus causing inflammation and symptoms that weren't necessarily there or even magnifying normal sensations.
Still feels a bit off down there but as long as i know there is no infection i can live with it and it will most likely go away in time if i stop thinking about it.
Learned a real tough life lesson with this. Its just not worth the stress and anxiety. Peace and love people
first swab done was negative for nsu.
second swab done 1.5 weeks later was slightly over 5 wbc
third swab done 3 weeks later was within normal range but with a few wbc
fourth swab test done 3 weeks later was completely normal.
spoke with doctor at length. he said that anxiety was a major factor making me squeeze and examine my penis, thus causing inflammation and symptoms that weren't necessarily there or even magnifying normal sensations.
Still feels a bit off down there but as long as i know there is no infection i can live with it and it will most likely go away in time if i stop thinking about it.
Learned a real tough life lesson with this. Its just not worth the stress and anxiety. Peace and love people
Still having all the same symptoms. Have not been back to the clinic again. Do you think I should return for further evaluation. I am extremely anxious about this. I have been in tears a few times now. I am constantly beating myself up. Don't want to lose my family.
Again, all std tests negitive.
Cham neg
Gon neg
Uu neg
Mycoplasma gen neg
Gonna do one more full panel test that includes trich. Really stressed about this. Can't function any more. Have thought about suicide a couple of times now.
Again, all std tests negitive.
Cham neg
Gon neg
Uu neg
Mycoplasma gen neg
Gonna do one more full panel test that includes trich. Really stressed about this. Can't function any more. Have thought about suicide a couple of times now.
Mot, don't even think of suicide.
It does sound like anxiety. Have you seen a counselor?
It does sound like anxiety. Have you seen a counselor?
Mot, I wanted you to know my situation is very much like yours.
A low-risk encounter, very much anxiety, and nebulous symptoms that are hard to pin down and don't necessarily scream STD. Plus negative tests.
I guess I just want you to know you are not alone. Hang in there.
A low-risk encounter, very much anxiety, and nebulous symptoms that are hard to pin down and don't necessarily scream STD. Plus negative tests.
I guess I just want you to know you are not alone. Hang in there.
So I went back to the clinic today. They would not do another swab test as they said that the two previous tests were fine. They did do a urine dip stick test that was absolutely fine. They told me nothing wrong with me and to stop worrying.
Thing is though, when the doc done the last swab, he did it really quickly. I talking about one second. All the previous tests have taken about 5 seconds. As you can imagine, I am now thinking that previous swab was not taken correctly. Really don't know what to do
Thing is though, when the doc done the last swab, he did it really quickly. I talking about one second. All the previous tests have taken about 5 seconds. As you can imagine, I am now thinking that previous swab was not taken correctly. Really don't know what to do
Waiting for results. Will post back as soon as I get them. Had to send off for private pcr tests as nhs do not test. I am also going to retest for mycoplasma genitalium, UU, chlamydia, gonorrhoea, herpes, gardenellla, and trich. That should rule out all the std that it could be. I am confident that it's not chlamydia or gonorrhoea based on 2 previous tests. Fairly confident that it's not mycoplasma genitalium since last test was negative. Not concerned about UU since that is part of normal flora in most people. Chances of trich are minuscule as is not carried in the mouth.
It's weird that this all started after a fleeting oral exposure. I should also mention that I also had unprotected anal with wife a couple of days later. I am starting to believe that this could be the cause. It just seems strange that I got a swab test for ngu 14 days post exposure to oral sex and it was completely clear. Having read many many posts on expert forum, they say testing for ngu is accurate 4 to 5 days after exposure. I had another swab redone 3.5 weeks post exposure. That's when they said ngu.
When I went back to the clinic last week I actually spoke to the consultant. He said that he would not have treated me when they diagnosed me with ngu. He said that I was only slightly over 5wbc. And without discharge I was between 5 and 10wbc. He said he only treats when it is above 15 to 20wbc.
I have had 2 swabs done since diagnosed and they have been normal. I have never had any discharge. My only symptom is a slight irritation at end of urethra and sometimes a feeling that I need to pee. I do have some other diffuse symptoms. Right testicle/groin area feels a bit weird. Pains in and around rectum and down back of thighs sometimes. Had prostate checked by doc. Said seams fine. Suppose it could be cpps as I am constantly tensing up my buttocks and legs. Must have an effect on pelvic muscles.
Will let you know how I get on with testing.
It's weird that this all started after a fleeting oral exposure. I should also mention that I also had unprotected anal with wife a couple of days later. I am starting to believe that this could be the cause. It just seems strange that I got a swab test for ngu 14 days post exposure to oral sex and it was completely clear. Having read many many posts on expert forum, they say testing for ngu is accurate 4 to 5 days after exposure. I had another swab redone 3.5 weeks post exposure. That's when they said ngu.
When I went back to the clinic last week I actually spoke to the consultant. He said that he would not have treated me when they diagnosed me with ngu. He said that I was only slightly over 5wbc. And without discharge I was between 5 and 10wbc. He said he only treats when it is above 15 to 20wbc.
I have had 2 swabs done since diagnosed and they have been normal. I have never had any discharge. My only symptom is a slight irritation at end of urethra and sometimes a feeling that I need to pee. I do have some other diffuse symptoms. Right testicle/groin area feels a bit weird. Pains in and around rectum and down back of thighs sometimes. Had prostate checked by doc. Said seams fine. Suppose it could be cpps as I am constantly tensing up my buttocks and legs. Must have an effect on pelvic muscles.
Will let you know how I get on with testing.
Not really, Mot, but thanks for asking.
I have tested negative for big 8 STDs. I trust those tests.
I tested negative for trich. I think I trust that test.
I just got a urethral swab and gram stain was zero bacteria.
I get results of urine culture tomorrow. We'll see about that.
I chose not to do test for ureaplasma and mycoplasma because I could have them anyway, and what does my mind do if it comes back positive?
My primary symptom is a strange pain on right hip/groin/top of scrotum. I have been evaluated for hernia, prostrate issue, and epididymetis-all negative.
I can't explain the pain away. The post-sexual-thing timing makes me wonder, of course.
On the other hand, Vance and my docs have told me no chance based on exposure. I went to Terry Warren in Portland Oregon the other day and she said no chance.
I honestly felt better after that and didn't feel the groin thing as much. I am at a slow moment at work and got on medhelp for first time in a day and a half and I have to admit my groin hurts more. That's an argument in favor of anxiety, huh?
I wish you the best. I don't think you have anything, buddy. Gotta let it go. Like me.
I have tested negative for big 8 STDs. I trust those tests.
I tested negative for trich. I think I trust that test.
I just got a urethral swab and gram stain was zero bacteria.
I get results of urine culture tomorrow. We'll see about that.
I chose not to do test for ureaplasma and mycoplasma because I could have them anyway, and what does my mind do if it comes back positive?
My primary symptom is a strange pain on right hip/groin/top of scrotum. I have been evaluated for hernia, prostrate issue, and epididymetis-all negative.
I can't explain the pain away. The post-sexual-thing timing makes me wonder, of course.
On the other hand, Vance and my docs have told me no chance based on exposure. I went to Terry Warren in Portland Oregon the other day and she said no chance.
I honestly felt better after that and didn't feel the groin thing as much. I am at a slow moment at work and got on medhelp for first time in a day and a half and I have to admit my groin hurts more. That's an argument in favor of anxiety, huh?
I wish you the best. I don't think you have anything, buddy. Gotta let it go. Like me.
So I also have the pains at anus, down legs, in buttocks, etc.
I also think I may have cpps. There is a lot of stress, tension, anxiety, and core tightening.
I also think I may have cpps. There is a lot of stress, tension, anxiety, and core tightening.
Mot, I noticed the core tension before I had read about CPPS. Did you too?
I lost about twenty pounds, because of anxiety and as a result of not eating. I started paying attention to my belly in a mix of fear and admiration, and while thinking I looked like Brad Pitt, would note that my stomach muscles were tight/clenched/tensed.
I also sat at work with my legs tightly crossed, constantly.
I have had do many stressors, with guilt, shame, fear, hiding doctor's visits, waiting for test results, trying to pretend everything is ok at home, wondering if it's safe to have sex with partner, wondering about our future, running home every day to intercept mail from insurance company, finding ways to fake the insurance letters, etc.
It's been horrible. I need to let it go. You do too.
I lost about twenty pounds, because of anxiety and as a result of not eating. I started paying attention to my belly in a mix of fear and admiration, and while thinking I looked like Brad Pitt, would note that my stomach muscles were tight/clenched/tensed.
I also sat at work with my legs tightly crossed, constantly.
I have had do many stressors, with guilt, shame, fear, hiding doctor's visits, waiting for test results, trying to pretend everything is ok at home, wondering if it's safe to have sex with partner, wondering about our future, running home every day to intercept mail from insurance company, finding ways to fake the insurance letters, etc.
It's been horrible. I need to let it go. You do too.
Mot, I noticed the core tension before I had read about CPPS. Did you too?
I lost about twenty pounds, because of anxiety and as a result of not eating. I started paying attention to my belly in a mix of fear and admiration, and while thinking I looked like Brad Pitt, would note that my stomach muscles were tight/clenched/tensed.
I also sat at work with my legs tightly crossed, constantly.
I have had do many stressors, with guilt, shame, fear, hiding doctor's visits, waiting for test results, trying to pretend everything is ok at home, wondering if it's safe to have sex with partner, wondering about our future, running home every day to intercept mail from insurance company, finding ways to fake the insurance letters, etc.
It's been horrible. I need to let it go. You do too.
I lost about twenty pounds, because of anxiety and as a result of not eating. I started paying attention to my belly in a mix of fear and admiration, and while thinking I looked like Brad Pitt, would note that my stomach muscles were tight/clenched/tensed.
I also sat at work with my legs tightly crossed, constantly.
I have had do many stressors, with guilt, shame, fear, hiding doctor's visits, waiting for test results, trying to pretend everything is ok at home, wondering if it's safe to have sex with partner, wondering about our future, running home every day to intercept mail from insurance company, finding ways to fake the insurance letters, etc.
It's been horrible. I need to let it go. You do too.
Nguworries. Having read your story. I highly doubt that you have anything at all to worry about. From what I gather. You didn't have and insertive contact at all. I would not be at all concerned about that. I, on the other hand did have insertive oral sex. The stress and anxiety are driving me crazy. It's all I can think about. I know I don't have chlamydia or gonorrhoea. I know I don't have mycoplasma genitalium or UReaplasma. Incidentally, I wouldn't be concerned if I did have Ureaplasma as it is normal flora in out urany tract. Mycoplasma genitalium is not normal flora.
So, my negitive tests so far are as follows.
Chlamydia
Gonorrhoea
Mycoplasma genitalium
Ureaplasma
Ureaplasma parvim
Syphalis
Waiting for results of the following.
Trich
Gardenellla
And herpes 1&2. The herpes tests are only viable in shedding phase though. I suspect if my symptoms are due to this then it would pick it up as I am symptomatic.
I am going to be a bit naughty and return to the clinic and use a different name so I can have another swab done as they wont do another one for me. They get hundreds of men through there so I doubt they will remember me. I'm in the UK so it's free.
So, my negitive tests so far are as follows.
Chlamydia
Gonorrhoea
Mycoplasma genitalium
Ureaplasma
Ureaplasma parvim
Syphalis
Waiting for results of the following.
Trich
Gardenellla
And herpes 1&2. The herpes tests are only viable in shedding phase though. I suspect if my symptoms are due to this then it would pick it up as I am symptomatic.
I am going to be a bit naughty and return to the clinic and use a different name so I can have another swab done as they wont do another one for me. They get hundreds of men through there so I doubt they will remember me. I'm in the UK so it's free.
Update.
Went back to the clinic today. Used false name and address. I was seen by one of the consultants doctors as I said that I had symptoms. She had a really good look at me. She did note that there was a little mucus on the head of penis but said it looked normal. She took 2 swabs from my urethra and had it looked at under the microscope. 20 mins later I had my results.....all clear. No wbc or below 5wbc. That is 3 clear swab tests now. 4 if you include the very first test when I went in March. Swab tests as follows
March 18th. Swab taken 2 weeks after encounter = all clear
March 30th. Swab taken again. Wbc between 5 and 10. Only just over. Consultant said he would not have treated me for this due to lack of discharge.
April 20th. Swab taken = all clear. Doctor said some wbc there but below 5wbc so was clear. This obviously freaked me out as I was told they seen some wbc even though was in normal range. Anxiety takes over.
May 11th. Swab test taken = all clear. No wbc observed at all though I did question the way in which the swab was done. It was performed very quickly. I went away happy but In my anxious state I naturally doubted the results of the test.
June 15th. Went back to clinic. Refused swab test but done urine dipstick test. Completely clear.
Today. Swab done. A really thorough swab I might add. All clear.
I am now 90% convinced I didn't have any ngu to begin with. I strongly suspect that this is all due to anxiety and stress. As Dr hands field puts it. (Genitally focused anxiety)
I will do my best to put this horrible experience behind me now. I have to accept the results of all these tests and move on. I have some cognitive behavioural therapy sessions coming up soon. Hopefully they can help me deal with my anieties and give me the mental tools to think positively about things rather than always dwelling on the negatives.
NGUworries, I would listen to your doctors. There really is nothing that you could of got from your exposure. Trust me. Even with my anxiety, I would not be concerned in the slightest. I hope you are able to work through your worries and move on with your life as I will try to do. It really brings it home how much our wives and families mean to us when we mess up like this. It's just not worth it. We are wealthy men. Sometimes we just forget it and let our penis rule our heads.
Peace brother.
Went back to the clinic today. Used false name and address. I was seen by one of the consultants doctors as I said that I had symptoms. She had a really good look at me. She did note that there was a little mucus on the head of penis but said it looked normal. She took 2 swabs from my urethra and had it looked at under the microscope. 20 mins later I had my results.....all clear. No wbc or below 5wbc. That is 3 clear swab tests now. 4 if you include the very first test when I went in March. Swab tests as follows
March 18th. Swab taken 2 weeks after encounter = all clear
March 30th. Swab taken again. Wbc between 5 and 10. Only just over. Consultant said he would not have treated me for this due to lack of discharge.
April 20th. Swab taken = all clear. Doctor said some wbc there but below 5wbc so was clear. This obviously freaked me out as I was told they seen some wbc even though was in normal range. Anxiety takes over.
May 11th. Swab test taken = all clear. No wbc observed at all though I did question the way in which the swab was done. It was performed very quickly. I went away happy but In my anxious state I naturally doubted the results of the test.
June 15th. Went back to clinic. Refused swab test but done urine dipstick test. Completely clear.
Today. Swab done. A really thorough swab I might add. All clear.
I am now 90% convinced I didn't have any ngu to begin with. I strongly suspect that this is all due to anxiety and stress. As Dr hands field puts it. (Genitally focused anxiety)
I will do my best to put this horrible experience behind me now. I have to accept the results of all these tests and move on. I have some cognitive behavioural therapy sessions coming up soon. Hopefully they can help me deal with my anieties and give me the mental tools to think positively about things rather than always dwelling on the negatives.
NGUworries, I would listen to your doctors. There really is nothing that you could of got from your exposure. Trust me. Even with my anxiety, I would not be concerned in the slightest. I hope you are able to work through your worries and move on with your life as I will try to do. It really brings it home how much our wives and families mean to us when we mess up like this. It's just not worth it. We are wealthy men. Sometimes we just forget it and let our penis rule our heads.
Peace brother.
Mot, my friend,
I agree with you. You are right I had no insertion of any kind. And that pretty much means my risks are only for the skin-contact ones (HSV, Syphilis, etc.) and even those are only theoretical risk and I've already tested negative for those.
I have hung on to fears about bacterial infections because she ground her very wet vagina on my thigh/high area, thinking maybe it could have worked its way up into my urethra from there. Pure fantasy, most likely impossible. I think there's a part of us that LIKES to hold on to these fantasies so we can indulge in more anxiety. Right now, anxiety is what we know and what we feed on.
I agree, because you had insertion, your risk was higher.
But on the other hand, your insertion was only brief oral sex, right? So not super risky.
And, wow, your negative test list is a lot more impressive than even mine is (and I have already gone above and beyond). All those negative tests HAVE to mean something, right?
I wish you luck with your subterfuge to get another round of free tests. And I bet them will all come back negative. But I also wish you luck in stopping testing and moving forward when everything comes back negative.
I'm actually mostly interested in talking about CPPS with you now (and moving forward and forgiving ourselves and being normal again). That seems like a very persuasive explanation. I was surprised when I read you talking about some of the pains I feel too--like down the back of the leg.
I am doing my best to relax and be normal. I have actually had some limited success--the last 2 or maybe even 3 nights were the first nights in 2.5 months when I could sit back and watch some TV and actually have the show mostly maintain my interest. Yesterday at work I was pretty productive and mostly thought about work. I've begun to think more about sex in a healthy way with my partner, and have even been waking up with an erection a few times now (for a while I thought my penis was absolutely non-reactive, it was weird).
I'm also becoming convinced that being on MedHelp is now largely a negative for me. I will stop it soon at some point. It's definitely a dual-edged sword, because you can read someone say "no chance for that" and it feels good, then you read on and find something that scares you again. I think right now my main interest in MedHelp is seeing you through your negative tests and hoping we can address our anxiety. So, I'm looking forward to hearing your results and I wish you the best.
I imagine you have a great family if you're so worried to lose them. I do too. I really want to get back to them mentally after my long, anxiety-ridden departure. I bet you do too. I think we have to realize that although our health fears were real and we wanted to make sure we were keeping our partners safe, we also have indulged in a measure of irrational and somewhat-indulgent self-hatred and have allowed ourselves to become crying babies over nothing (or, at least that's how I feel about myself, I don't want to make judgments about you and I admit you DID have insertion and therefore a higher risk than I did).
So, hang in there and keep us posted. Good luck.
I agree with you. You are right I had no insertion of any kind. And that pretty much means my risks are only for the skin-contact ones (HSV, Syphilis, etc.) and even those are only theoretical risk and I've already tested negative for those.
I have hung on to fears about bacterial infections because she ground her very wet vagina on my thigh/high area, thinking maybe it could have worked its way up into my urethra from there. Pure fantasy, most likely impossible. I think there's a part of us that LIKES to hold on to these fantasies so we can indulge in more anxiety. Right now, anxiety is what we know and what we feed on.
I agree, because you had insertion, your risk was higher.
But on the other hand, your insertion was only brief oral sex, right? So not super risky.
And, wow, your negative test list is a lot more impressive than even mine is (and I have already gone above and beyond). All those negative tests HAVE to mean something, right?
I wish you luck with your subterfuge to get another round of free tests. And I bet them will all come back negative. But I also wish you luck in stopping testing and moving forward when everything comes back negative.
I'm actually mostly interested in talking about CPPS with you now (and moving forward and forgiving ourselves and being normal again). That seems like a very persuasive explanation. I was surprised when I read you talking about some of the pains I feel too--like down the back of the leg.
I am doing my best to relax and be normal. I have actually had some limited success--the last 2 or maybe even 3 nights were the first nights in 2.5 months when I could sit back and watch some TV and actually have the show mostly maintain my interest. Yesterday at work I was pretty productive and mostly thought about work. I've begun to think more about sex in a healthy way with my partner, and have even been waking up with an erection a few times now (for a while I thought my penis was absolutely non-reactive, it was weird).
I'm also becoming convinced that being on MedHelp is now largely a negative for me. I will stop it soon at some point. It's definitely a dual-edged sword, because you can read someone say "no chance for that" and it feels good, then you read on and find something that scares you again. I think right now my main interest in MedHelp is seeing you through your negative tests and hoping we can address our anxiety. So, I'm looking forward to hearing your results and I wish you the best.
I imagine you have a great family if you're so worried to lose them. I do too. I really want to get back to them mentally after my long, anxiety-ridden departure. I bet you do too. I think we have to realize that although our health fears were real and we wanted to make sure we were keeping our partners safe, we also have indulged in a measure of irrational and somewhat-indulgent self-hatred and have allowed ourselves to become crying babies over nothing (or, at least that's how I feel about myself, I don't want to make judgments about you and I admit you DID have insertion and therefore a higher risk than I did).
So, hang in there and keep us posted. Good luck.
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