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is greave disease considered a weakness for the immune system? is its treatment affect the immune system if tapazole is the medication?

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no idea but this is not what i meant at least. in fact stress in the main cause of grave disease. so when i referred to HIV anxiety i meant the stress and not the infection, and i was wondering if GD can affect the window period of HIV.

if you are really concerned about HIV, i am sure that it is not the thyroid that confirm that rather than HIV test. i once asked Dr. Lupo if they are linked, his reply was that HIV treatment can cause hyperthyroidism or hypo but not HIV. you can search the forum under title "Low TSH".

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no idea but this is not what i meant at least. in fact stress in the main cause of grave disease. so when i referred to HIV anxiety i meant the stress and not the infection, and i was wondering if GD can affect the window period of HIV.

if you are really concerned about HIV, i am sure that it is not the thyroid that confirm that rather than HIV test. i once asked Dr. Lupo if they are linked, his reply was that HIV treatment can cause hyperthyroidism or hypo but not HIV. you can search the forum under title "Low TSH".

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What is that about , it seems like if you have high Antibody for thyroid like TPO and Thyroblobin  that can be because of HIV infection ?. So if you had a risky exposure and within an year you started to have thyroid that can be possible HIV infection mess up immune system which creates high thyroid antibodies ?.I am confuse please some one explain.
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you are really being helpful. thanks man.
in fact i do have other anibodies whihc are called in french "anti-recepteur antibodies" and those are as high as 150, as for the Trab is 4.2 the latest.

i did not get you when you said "The same thing can happen with the Thyroid". did you mean that the Antibodies would kill the thyroid. if that is what you meant than it is fine :) it killed me already (kidding).

anyway, my TSH is still below 0.005 for certain reasons. i am on tapazole as i said. in fact the grave's disease started with me after my anxiety for a risk HIV exposure. now i am suffering OCD because of that, while people confirmed to me that it was very low risk, and the partner assured me that she was clean (but do not know if i can believe her). so my fear of HIV have made things worse, and the Thyroid is probably altering HIV window period. so i cannot tell you how bad i am. thanks that there are out there people like you really helpful.

man hope if i can ever really help.

thanksssssssssss
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you are really being helpful. thanks man.
in fact i do have other anibodies whihc are called in french "anti-recepteur antibodies" and those are as high as 150, as for the Trab is 4.2 the latest.

i did not get you when you said "The same thing can happen with the Thyroid". did you mean that the Antibodies would kill the thyroid. if that is what you meant than it is fine :) it killed me already (kidding).

anyway, my TSH is still below 0.005 for certain reasons. i am on tapazole as i said. in fact the grave's disease started with me after my anxiety for a risk HIV exposure. now i am suffering OCD because of that, while people confirmed to me that it was very low risk, and the partner assured me that she was clean (but do not know if i can believe her). so my fear of HIV have made things worse, and the Thyroid is probably altering HIV window period. so i cannot tell you how bad i am. thanks that there are out there people like you really helpful.

man hope if i can ever really help.

thanksssssssssss
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I don't know how you would go about strengthening your immune system. I know there are things that will help, but I have no idea what they are.

The "normal" range for TRab is <10.0, so 4.2 is not stressing your immune system, and is not a good indicator of Grave's disease. I'm not saying you don't have Grave's. I'm just saying it would not be unusual if your TRab was 150.5 or even 500.

Almost everybody tested has thyroid anti-bodies to some degree. your TRab is under normal limits, so it should not be a problem.

The immune system makes all sorts of anti-bodies. It becomes a problem if the immune system starts producing anti-bodies that it is not supposed to.

There are four or five different types of anti-thyroid anti-bodies. They are bad, because they attack your thyroid instead of cold viruses or infections. But most people have a few of them in low numbers. It becomes a problem when they are produced in high numbers.

Auto-immune Diabetes is another example. The body starts producing anti-bodies that attack the gland that produces insulin and kills it. The same thing can happen with the Thyroid.

However, a test that shows you have a low number of anti-thyroid anti-bodies is not a major indicator that your immune system is being overworked.
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i really thanks you for the info provided.
actually my T3 and T4 level are again within the range but my TSH is still low. in taht case, will my immune system still fighting the thyroid in that case? can't the immune system generates more than one type of antibodies? i am bit scared with what you have said " Grave's Disease may weaken your immune system a little,"
my TRAb is 4.5 and lately decreased to 4.2 U/L.

supplements to strenghten the immune system such as vitamines or chemicals? i do not to complicate things more than what they are. please let me know.
thanks in advance.
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Tapazole does not affect your immune system as far as I know.

Grave's Disease may weaken your immune system a little, as it is working harder to produce the anti-bodies that are giving your thyroid trouble.

I know if you take supplements or anything to strengthen your immune system, which you may want to do, it will allow your immune system to make more of the bad anti-bodies that attack your thyroid.

That may not be a big concern if your anti-thyroid anti-bodies ar not extremely high already. It is a balancing act that you should discuss with an endocrinologist if you can.
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many thanks, but i am bit worried if grave disease may affect my immune system in away that will no longer being able to start antibodes against viruses such as HIV. i am bit concerned about the HIV window period

thansk in advance
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213044 tn?1236527460
Grave's Disease is caused by a defect in the immune system.

Your immune system has mistakenly started producing anti-bodies that think your thyroid is a foreign object that needs to go away, so the anti-thyroid anti-bodies attack the thyroid, weakening it.

There is no treatment that will stop your immune system from producing these types of anti-bodies.

Tapazole is a medication that suppresses the thyroid gland, causing it to produce fewer hormones. It is a drug that you can take for a while, but you cannot take it for years. It is a short term therapy drug that lowers your hormone levels and raises your TSH.
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