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Opiate withdrawal????
What the heck is wrong with me? I have been on percocet and vicodin for only 2 months. I was on percocet for a month (7.5-30mg oxy/day varied), the vicodin for 2 weeks (5 mg. went through 50 in 2 weeks), then percocet for another month 2-7.5 tabs a day. Went to 1 pill for 2 days last week, then stopped Monday. Diarrhea ever since. Highs and lows. Sometimes I am on the verge of tears for no reason. Last Thursday I took 1 just to feel a little better because I had an explosive outburst of tears. I still feel like **** 1 week later. Is this normal? After 2 months of use, wouldn't I be better in a couple days? This sucks. I feel hopeless and have no ambition. My nights of sleep suck too.
I was told by alot of people it takes about 10 days to feel normal again, but I have been hooked a couple years. I'm not sure if what your going through is normal or not. Have you called your doctor?
Have you thought of anything else you may have taken in conjunction with the pills that could be causing these long withdrawls? For instance, did you also take (at any time) Valium, Ultram, Ultacet, Nyquil, a little shot of something once in a while (booze)?
The reason I ask is that it would be quite a rarity for someone to have continued hard withdrawl symptoms at the level of pills you were taking (although ANYTHING is possible).
I thought that something was VERY wrong with me when I forgot to take my Ulram for 2 days while I was at a funeral out of state... I ended up in the E.R. Once they got something in me, I was o.k., but NOBODY had ever even implied that Ultram was so addictive in some people. I eventually gave up the drugs cold turkey, because I didn't have the willpower to taper. Hey, If I had pills around, my only concern was not OVERDOSING while I got rid of the bottle in as little time as possible!
The physical part of the withdrawls (Diarreah, night sweats, Restless leg syndrome, etc..) should be completely gone in 7-10 days. the mental withdrawls, however, are a different story. Youmay feel like **** (depressed) for quite some time. If your depression doesn't subside in another couple weeks, I'd suggest seeing psychiatrist. YES, they are a lot of money, but a lot cheaper than pills to keep you happy!
Fight the good fight!
Jess
The reason I ask is that it would be quite a rarity for someone to have continued hard withdrawl symptoms at the level of pills you were taking (although ANYTHING is possible).
I thought that something was VERY wrong with me when I forgot to take my Ulram for 2 days while I was at a funeral out of state... I ended up in the E.R. Once they got something in me, I was o.k., but NOBODY had ever even implied that Ultram was so addictive in some people. I eventually gave up the drugs cold turkey, because I didn't have the willpower to taper. Hey, If I had pills around, my only concern was not OVERDOSING while I got rid of the bottle in as little time as possible!
The physical part of the withdrawls (Diarreah, night sweats, Restless leg syndrome, etc..) should be completely gone in 7-10 days. the mental withdrawls, however, are a different story. Youmay feel like **** (depressed) for quite some time. If your depression doesn't subside in another couple weeks, I'd suggest seeing psychiatrist. YES, they are a lot of money, but a lot cheaper than pills to keep you happy!
Fight the good fight!
Jess
Oh my God, I have been complaining of that restless legs thing to my girlfriend. I didn't even mention that. It has been keeping me awake. It almost hurts to not move my legs areound!!! I had no idea that was part of opiate withdrawals!
The leg pain is probably the worst part of withdrawls. I have a friend that's been off heroin for years and he still remembers how bad those leg aches were. I know that feeling of sitting down on the couch while your legs jump out or twitch, and it seems like you're tired but you can't sit still. I really think you should call your doctor, but if there is some reason you can't, try taking a long hot bath. Some people in the forum say it helps.
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Ask your doc for "Mirapex" for the RLS.
Two months of daily use is definitely enough to cause you to suffer withdrawals, and if you quit cold you'll probably have all the low energy, depression and other **** that we suffer. When you take another pill at this point, it's only going to prolong it. Start taking the vitamins and supplements suggested in the thread below titled "thomas recipe" and I promise your energy and outlook will improve. It really turned my mind around, as I was suffering severe depression for weeks after withdrawals until I found this board and started the recipe. Good luck and hang in there.
Hey I'm new just jumping in here. I'm on my fourth day withdrawal from vicodin for 2 years. The worst, and I do mean worst is over. You know the hopelessness. But I'm still suffering from depression and tired all the time. I Have also been taking phentermine diet pills for about 5 years now. Not as often since I started the vicodin. I'm taking them everyday again now just for the energy to pick my children up from school. Will I have withdrawal from this too? Help somebody tell me I won't have to do this again.
I am so glad to hear from several people they can kick the opiate drugs. My daughter is in rehab as we speak for the 4th time, this time she put herself there, before it was court ordered. I have always been told heroine is the hardest to kick. But some of you really make me feel better. I am proud of all of YOU, even though I don't know you I do know it takes alot to get to where you are. I would appreciate any response you might have and any ideas on how I can continue to support my daughter. Thanks
Withdrawing from opiates has to have been one of the hardest and most psychologically enduring things I have ever done in my life! Six months ago I finally got off methadone after a 7 year addiction, then relapsed back onto heroin/cocaine ('speedballs') back in May/June. Finally had it (almost overdosed 3 times) and me and a friend checked ourselves into rehab to detox (5 to 7 day detox, getting you goosed up on librium, vistirol, calonipin, trazadone, doxipin etc;, etc;). I'm now on day 9 and feel alright, having really intense drug dreams which suck but overall, not too bad. Finally figured out I have to go to NA!!! You just can't beat this by yourself, there's no way in hell! I felt good when I relapsed, life going well, good job (now that's gone)so you never know when your former 'druggie' self is gonna come back and bite you on the ass! I can honestly say that today I won't use, and take it day-to-day...I can't go back, won't go back!!!!!! Everyone take care....
im clean now for sbou 3 days... overall ive only been addcited for a half year. fortunally for me... i was snorting. my back and legs are killing me, but the worse is come night time where sleeping is just imposible. all i want is a little rest... its unbelieavle. its been about 72 hrs and and maybe 3 hrs of sleep. somone please, HELP!!
im clean now for sbou 3 days... overall ive only been addcited for a half year. fortunally for me... i was snorting. my back and legs are killing me, but the worse is come night time where sleeping is just imposible. all i want is a little rest... its unbelieavle. its been about 72 hrs and and maybe 3 hrs of sleep. somone please, HELP!!
im clean now for sbou 3 days... overall ive only been addcited for a half year. fortunally for me... i was snorting. my back and legs are killing me, but the worse is come night time where sleeping is just imposible. all i want is a little rest... its unbelieavle. its been about 72 hrs and and maybe 3 hrs of sleep. somone please, HELP!!
Hi and welcome to the forum.Im not sure what drug you were snorting but untill I hear from you i'll assume your talking about oxy.If it was oxy,the worst of the physical withdrawl is almost behind you.Day 4 is usually when most start feeling better from opiate w/d.I really felt the difference on day 5 of hydro w/d.The restless legs were a nightmare.I found that hot baths every chance I got worked the best for the leg aches.If you can get the thomas recipe(posted everywhere) it will really help with your energy level.I wish you luck.keep posting.Oh yeah,post at the top and you'll get a lot more responses.Not many read down here every day.
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I lost my comment, here goes again. 21/2 yrs ago i had a bad motorcycle accident. Did rehab 15 mos. and was prescribed hydro/lortab 7.5, 3 a day. Returned to work, still some pain. Continued with the painkillers. 3 a day. Started having other problems, alot of pain in my neck, shoulders and upper arms.
Dr did blood wrk, ANA came back positive, sent me to a specialist
because they thought I had lupus. He diagnosed me with myofacial
pain disorder. I know........sounds like BS, but get it and then tell me what you think. Severe pain in the trigger points 24/7.
Told me to exercise and do yoga, didn't help.Nothing did.
I also get terrible headaches and always have, it's genetic.
Went to a different DR. 2 MRIs later, bulging disc, tendonitis in both shoulders and osteoarthritis of entire cervical spine.
He writes for me every month, lortab/10 @ 3per a day. He's a DR in a neighboring state. I'm talking severe pain and stiffness 24/7 with no relief. I also get cortisone shots from him.
I also have a family DR that I've been going to about a year or so. I love her. She answers all of my questions, explains things and I trust her. Well, she got the report about my diagnosis of MPD. She knows it really hurts, so she writes a script for Lortab 7.5/4 x a day and continues to write each month.
Needless to say that this is when my addiction began. I even bought some, because that wasn't enough. I was up to 25 a day.
I quit buying, that was stupid, now my average is 12 a day but
somedays I still hit 20 or so, that's why I always run out.
Then all I can think about is how to get more pills. I crawl around the floor in case I dropped one earlier. Insanity!
I want to completely quit going to the out of state DR, and only go to my family DR and take pain med exactly as prescribed.
I've been trying to do this but so far, I'm angry to say, I just can't do it. Here's my number one concern, I want to quit doing this, of copurse, but I don't want to get caught going to 2 DR's.
Will I get in trouble with the law? I love my Family DR so much
that if I got caught, she'd find out and I couldn't face her again. She's the only DR I ever could relate to. She has trust in
me.
I feel that I an a functioning addict. I go to work every day, take care of my house and yard, am self-sipporting, pay my bills on time, have excellent hygiene and I have a wonderful relationship with a good man, for the past five years. He knows nothing about this. He knows I take lortab/hydro for pain,
but he doesn't know anything else. Neither does the rest of my family, friends or co-workers.
I think I've been addicted for a year and a 1/2. My relationship has gone through rough times during this period and I wonder if
that was caused by my drug use. Alot of you say that you cryed alot. Well I cry alot!! Is that because of the hydro?
I told my family DR I had restless legs, she gave me Tinzadine,
a muscle relaxer that helps. I didn't know that was because of
withdrawal. Every month I run out , so I don't have any pills,
anywhere from a few days to 2 weeks. I feel really bad the first day or two, then just tired.
I know I can do this. I kicked amphetimines in the early 80's.
I went to NA. But NA isn't for me, it seemed like a cult in a way, not that I'm putting it down because it does help so many people, it's just not for me. So what are my alternatives?
Counseling didn't help either. I swore to myself then that I would never put myself in this type of situation again. But after the accident, I was in severe pain, and I had never liked pain killers before. Who knew?
My goal is to quit going to the out-of-state DR, and go only to my family DR. Take her lortab prescription exactly as prescribed, 1 every 6 hours, and try to cut back on that, taper off, as you say here. But I do believe I need something for the pain. OTC drugs don't help, anti-inflammatorys make me sick to
the stomach. So my only alternative is lortab. I don't believe I should have to live with this pain constantly. Also, she has tried me on every pain killer in existence and only hydro worked.
If this keeps going on, I fear that I will lose everything.
HELP ME PLEASE!!!
Dr did blood wrk, ANA came back positive, sent me to a specialist
because they thought I had lupus. He diagnosed me with myofacial
pain disorder. I know........sounds like BS, but get it and then tell me what you think. Severe pain in the trigger points 24/7.
Told me to exercise and do yoga, didn't help.Nothing did.
I also get terrible headaches and always have, it's genetic.
Went to a different DR. 2 MRIs later, bulging disc, tendonitis in both shoulders and osteoarthritis of entire cervical spine.
He writes for me every month, lortab/10 @ 3per a day. He's a DR in a neighboring state. I'm talking severe pain and stiffness 24/7 with no relief. I also get cortisone shots from him.
I also have a family DR that I've been going to about a year or so. I love her. She answers all of my questions, explains things and I trust her. Well, she got the report about my diagnosis of MPD. She knows it really hurts, so she writes a script for Lortab 7.5/4 x a day and continues to write each month.
Needless to say that this is when my addiction began. I even bought some, because that wasn't enough. I was up to 25 a day.
I quit buying, that was stupid, now my average is 12 a day but
somedays I still hit 20 or so, that's why I always run out.
Then all I can think about is how to get more pills. I crawl around the floor in case I dropped one earlier. Insanity!
I want to completely quit going to the out of state DR, and only go to my family DR and take pain med exactly as prescribed.
I've been trying to do this but so far, I'm angry to say, I just can't do it. Here's my number one concern, I want to quit doing this, of copurse, but I don't want to get caught going to 2 DR's.
Will I get in trouble with the law? I love my Family DR so much
that if I got caught, she'd find out and I couldn't face her again. She's the only DR I ever could relate to. She has trust in
me.
I feel that I an a functioning addict. I go to work every day, take care of my house and yard, am self-sipporting, pay my bills on time, have excellent hygiene and I have a wonderful relationship with a good man, for the past five years. He knows nothing about this. He knows I take lortab/hydro for pain,
but he doesn't know anything else. Neither does the rest of my family, friends or co-workers.
I think I've been addicted for a year and a 1/2. My relationship has gone through rough times during this period and I wonder if
that was caused by my drug use. Alot of you say that you cryed alot. Well I cry alot!! Is that because of the hydro?
I told my family DR I had restless legs, she gave me Tinzadine,
a muscle relaxer that helps. I didn't know that was because of
withdrawal. Every month I run out , so I don't have any pills,
anywhere from a few days to 2 weeks. I feel really bad the first day or two, then just tired.
I know I can do this. I kicked amphetimines in the early 80's.
I went to NA. But NA isn't for me, it seemed like a cult in a way, not that I'm putting it down because it does help so many people, it's just not for me. So what are my alternatives?
Counseling didn't help either. I swore to myself then that I would never put myself in this type of situation again. But after the accident, I was in severe pain, and I had never liked pain killers before. Who knew?
My goal is to quit going to the out-of-state DR, and go only to my family DR. Take her lortab prescription exactly as prescribed, 1 every 6 hours, and try to cut back on that, taper off, as you say here. But I do believe I need something for the pain. OTC drugs don't help, anti-inflammatorys make me sick to
the stomach. So my only alternative is lortab. I don't believe I should have to live with this pain constantly. Also, she has tried me on every pain killer in existence and only hydro worked.
If this keeps going on, I fear that I will lose everything.
HELP ME PLEASE!!!
Hi I've been taking narcs since an accident sept 9,2002. For 2 days I was on IM medications of rather strong medications... morphine and demoral. After leaving the hosp. I was discharged with Codeine #3 which I took and refilled about 60 tabs. Since I have hit some Vicodin's from a past injury.... My pain is bad enough so that I am comforted at night from the vicodin... The only problem is that now about 2 months after the accident I am noticing a headache at night as if to remind me to take another vicodin. Once I take the vicodin... sure enough the headache is gone and I feel so much better. I realize I have to either taper or discontinue... the only thing is is that I feel I really in little danger since I only take about a pill and half at most per day... Someone please enlighten me to more information ... So I dont have a real hard time with all this. I would really appreciate any responses from experience.. Thanks Gerard.
Let me be the first to warn you. I started with only one a day for chronic pain. Soon enough it became two, three, four, all the way up to 20. The reason why is your body becomes dependent in ways you could never imagine Your pain that was tolerable before the pain meds, now becomes intensified. Let me tell you I live in real horrible pain but I would rather hurt then take those pills again. Being addicted to them can change your whole persona. Stop now while the real withdrawals are not present. The withdrawals from hydro is equivalent to heroin. You will feel like your dying for about 5 days. Some people have shorter withdrawals but it will only take one day for you to regret ever being on them. Imagine wanting to be anywhere but where you are magnify your want to get away from where you are by 20 and not being able to move. It is the most horrible thing you can imagine. I just tell you out of caring this suff is the devils syrup. You might as well been on heroin and enjoyed the highs a little more because your going topay for it in the same manner. Please if you do just have to have it do yourself a favor. Take it one day, emphasis on one and then SKIP a day. Your body will be less likely to be dependent on it. But the best solution is just to stay off of them all together. The pain you have to endure without them is nothing in comparison to the pains of the withdrawals. I promise you this. Sorry to be so drastic in explanation, but I do want to express this thoroughly. Thanks and good luck!
I posted a comment earlier for ghnyc, this is for you. I am pretty successful finacially. I make nearly 200k a year and I have been buying the lortabs in ways that well...you know what im saying. I was going to the poorhouse. 25+ a day. It doesnt matter your need will gradually grow. Fortunately there is answers for some people. I have Marphans Syndrome. It is very painful on a daily basis. I thought Hydro was the only answer for me because like you I tried all the rest of the drugs but nothing seemed to work. Hydro was the miracle drug!!! I know the life of pain, it sucks but if you dont stop now you could be in some serious danger. One, it is illegal to carry hydro prescriptions across state lines. That is, to live in one state and manipulate a doctor in another state to double your script. But that should be the least of your concerns. I know from experience that soon enough nothing else will matter much to you. I myself have always been self supportive. I always do the things that need to be done. I handle everything accordingly but its only a matter of time before the drug overpowers your life. So heres some options for you. One they have nerve blocks, of course you cant block all the pain but you can try to get most of the areas. Two, this sounds hoaky but there are people who see results from hypnotic suggestion. I have met many who gained enough perspective to look past the pain. Then theres the other solution. Live with the pain. Sounds crappy, but I can say myself I would rather do it than have to be dependent on anything. I would hate going after those pills, chewing them up and chasing with a glass of water. Because I knew everytime I did I got more and more dependent. At least living with the pain I have control over my life, where on the pills I was just autonomous. Do yourself a favor get off. Trust me no matter what your not yourself right now. If you are taking 12 a day or even close to that, you cant be your normal self. I distanced everyone from me, my family included. My attitude sucked and probably pushed my marriage to its limits, but when I was on the pills I dodnt even care. Damn, I am one long winded fool....lol I just feel so passionate about these things. Also if you are as close to your doctor as you metioned. You might want to aks for some presriptions that will help you detox. Trazadone is a great way to detox. I do not know if it can be prescribed or wether it has to be given in an in-patient setting. There are also out patient programs that will help you to detox safely. That is another point I should make. The risk of detoxing the wrong way is one, strokes two seizures and three heart attacks. The latter is unlikey but the first two are rather likely. Detox, while you can do it safely. Well thats all for my current novel, lol...but stay tuned I am sure there will be more to read from me. Thanks and good luck all. God Bless.
I'm on day 4 this is the hardest thing i've ever had to do. no one knows that i take oxy, i just do. i can't tell anyone what i'm going through. i feel like a wreck, i wanna cry, i don't want to work, i just felt much happier on the pills. i know i need to stop, i'm trying.... i'm trying
In the words of Winston Churchill " When you're going through hell, keep going".
I did the same thing, all alone except for this amazing forum. It got me to the other side, as it will for you. You are not alone.
I did the same thing, all alone except for this amazing forum. It got me to the other side, as it will for you. You are not alone.
i'm on a duragesic patch (50) and 15 mg morphine for chronic pain. i want to get off but i'm afraid of both...the addiction and the pain from no opiates. what is going to happen if i quit cold turkey. i m helpless
Welcome, this thread is from 2002 I suggest in order to get your post read by current members you click on Back to Forum below this post and then on Post a New Question. that way you can post your own thread and get it seen..
In my opinion do not stop something as strong as the durgesic patch cold turkey.. that should really be tapered with help from your doctor.. he can step you down to the 25 patch the meds you are on shood either be tapered or go into a inpatient detox where they can monitor you medically..
In my opinion do not stop something as strong as the durgesic patch cold turkey.. that should really be tapered with help from your doctor.. he can step you down to the 25 patch the meds you are on shood either be tapered or go into a inpatient detox where they can monitor you medically..
been taking methadone for about 1 year 20 mg a day today is the first without it how long will withdrawals be and how intense. will taking phentermine diet piils with withdrawals help
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