how honest to be?

[Courtney2627]

i am new to this site and have never really talked about my issues but i would like any advice or personal exp. your willing to share....i have started taking sub 3weeks ago and my dr. went on vacation and gave me a script for 30 pills and said to take 1 8mg a day well i start my day @430am and take my pill but around 230pm or so i start to feel that so familiar feeling and i take another pill sooo thats 2 8mg a day and i have had bad exp. with drs before and i am worried if i tell him how much better i feel when i take 2 a day  he will throw me to the wolves and hes a really good dr so far so my Q is how do i tell him this without making it seem like i am trying to defy him or ya know? any suggestions are welcomed.. i really wanna do this the right way.. i dont want to hide anything i have enough meds to last until next time i see him but not the entire 30days thanx to all

[road2recovery]

I never did methadone, But did you go from 100mg of methadone to the sub?

someone will come soon who knows more about methadone, but i think that is too much meth to go to sub, i will try to find out for u..

[Courtney2627]

i did try taking 4mgs am and 4mgs pm i didnt help much actually worked less then the 8mgs inthe am...is it all in my head (thats what my fiance says) my fiance smoked some pot in highschool but thats it so its hard for him to :get: my addiction i will be on for about an hour if anyone has time to chat a little

[Courtney2627]

its very comforting the way everyone has just jumped to answer my Q. thanks guys...let me give a little more info about myself..i was taking anywhere from 30 to 60 10mg lortab,vicodin,percocet a day i was addicted for 5 yrs but hid it very well from my friends anf fiance and family..when i say 30to 60 i know it seems like alot but to me it didnt touch the withdrawls. every morning before my feet hit the floor i would grab my bottle of whatever i had at the moment and take 15 10mg (lortab n percocet mostly) my previous rehab doc said how did you function?.to me this didnt even bring the usual buzz or normal feeling and i was scared to take anymore all at once so about 12noon i would take 10 more 10mgs...i had a huge tolerance and still felt the withdrawl monster creeping up almost every hour the hot flashes would start and the stomach cramps..i lived this way fora year (at that many pills a day) and my habit was very expensive..i drained everything we had(which wasnt much) ilied to family to get money i let our elactric and water and everything getturned off because when it was due i bought pills instead always thinking that something wouild come along before the shut off ya know? i wrote almost 5,ooo in bad checks and went to jail.only for 6 days but that was my bottom i checked myself into rehab stayed 7 dyas and didnt get the right treatment.my rehab dr sent me home with a sub script to taper off with..any addict knows that isnt a good idea...i was to take 2mg in the am and then nothing the next day then 1mg then so on n so on i lived in a tiny town and no sub drs anywhere so i did the methadone clinic and it worked for me for almost 2yrs but i still never felt "right"..iwasnt looking for the high just the feeling of normalcy..yaknow? so i went to this new DR hour and a half from where i am in GA and he seems really nice but he started me out taking 1 8mg a day that was almost three weeks ago and i was taking 100mgs of the done a day. so this week he gave me a months script of 30sub subligual little orange pills and he is in india on vac.but there is a e-mail that i can talk to him and he is supposed to e-mail me back(kindacool actually) so my next appt is on the 13th two weeks from my last and when i go back i will be out and i am scared to tell him i take 1@500am and then 1@about 300pm(sometimes i hold out till 400or500pm)and this makes me feel normal(slight headache)but normal for once.he says the normal dose is 8mg a day so i am scared if i am honest about how i am feeling he will just say well to bad 8mgs a day or nothing at all.plus i dont want to continue taking more and run out early.i have moved from my old lifestyle..my fiance is a preachers son(the ironyhuh)i really have converted from junkie to recovering addict i want to do this right i need to do this right..i am planning my sept wedding and starting to feel like there is no help out there and i am just stuck like before and its depressing so i am scared to talk to him because of the outcome

[wannabefree330]

First of all welcome!  It takes courage to reach out, and to admit what you're doing.  It is only natural for an addict to want more more more.  Its our nature.  I agree that you need to be honest right away.  The addict way is to hide, lie, and sneak and you don't want to do this to someone who's trying to help you.  It's understandable you are having cravings and he just needs to know this so you can be on the proper dose.  Can you call his office and speak to one of the nurses about this?  He may have left some guidelines for you in the event this happened?  If not, what happens if you take 1/2 a pill twice a day?  It may curb your cravings a bit better?  If you trust him enough to take what he's prescribing, you have to trust him enough to be honest.  Otherwise he doesn't have all the information he needs to treat you properly.

[road2recovery]

When is your next appt?  I have never done sub..But because it seems sub doctors want to keep you out of w/d's he would understand...It is not like you are taking more opiates , then we know they will let us go then...But i have always read where sub docs are okay with people taking more, and not less...Actually just the opposite of Doctors who persribe narcotics...Maybe you can call and talk to the nurse and just say that you are having w/d's starting at 2 30..I bet she will call back and say the doc said to take more...It is worth a shot...
good luck
r2r

[landbray]

I started suboxine 6-24-08. I took 16mgs  the first few weeks.The dr actually told me to take 3 8mgs a day. But I couldn't. The normal dose drs are now presp is 3 8mg a day when you first start the program. I did that for 4 days,  then 2 8mg  for a couple of weeks now I take about 10mgs a day. I feel great. Not eating well though. have lost weight since I started it.
I let the dr tell me what he thinks I should take. It has always been more then I would. I always have extra pills
good luck to you
paaddict

[usarmymedic1]

agree with r2r sub is to get you off of your DOC and if you are feeling W/C symptoms you need to say that not how better you feel when taking two. you should try asking him about tapering you up so that you only take what you need so not to feel the W/D. so your best way to approach this is to tell him you have been taking 2 but due to the fact that you are feeling w/d's and you don't want to take any more that you need so can you try tappering up or titrating up to see where you need to be.  This should show him one that you are not wanting any more than you need and being honest is showing responsablity.

[Courtney2627]

wow quick reply thanks..um i am really worried that hes not caring and hes the closet dr to me11/2hours away and i like him and i hear so many horror storys ya know?

[road2recovery]

IMO you need to be honest...If i were you, i would go in and tell him that by 2 30, u started feeling w/d's , and you could not be sick at work...If he is a doctor that really cares , he will appriciate the honesty, and would not want you to suffer...
Good luck
r2r