You're doing amazing! It's so great to "watch" first hand someone take the advice offered, and see feedback that it works. Incredible! Keep up the great work!
Weaver....
"Oh yes, the detox cheese. That's what it reminded me of, really aged and really sharp. Nobody in my family will ever forget the smell. I felt like my scrotum belonged to a billy goat, except the does don't like it. "
You almost owed me a new keyboard!!!! I was sipping my joe reading your post. Seriously, BEST laugh I've had in a long time. That's freaking hysterical. OMG....gut wrenchingly funny.
Evolver I almost went the sub rout I'm glad I guess I didn't right now. I didn't want to have another WD from anything. I bet aftert 30 years of h brother you probably have some horror stories. I only have about 4 mo in to my h use with a few years of pills before that. I started late in life around 40 with opioids. Can't believe it got this bad this fast.
Awesome! Glad to hear you're OK. Enjoy the flick.
Yeah you guys are seriously the best. I did not take a benzo. I did do the 100 counting thing and got to nod off 2x for about 3 mins each time. Good news is that the hangover part 2 just came on HBO so at least ill have something to laugh my *** of watching.
"I noticed this is a fishing village is there a long John silvers on the island" lmao.
I think I'm cracking up :/
Thank you so much for your support! Everyone has been so wonderful and it's so nice to have people who can relate.
Stick with it and stick together. You can do this. Stay with us..
I can't sleep either. Only thing keeping me going is this forum.
I hope you are able to relax some and get some rest. I dozed for about 30 mins but it's harder than usual. I'm in the semi truck with my bf and we'll be driving all night. Much easier to sleep when you're not moving!
The insomnia is par for the course, dude. What I would like to share with you is what happened to me re: benzos. I wasn't a benzo person, either (still not one.) When I came off Methadone on Dec. 25th followed by 20 days of Suboxone the w/d's were so sustained that I used Klonopin & occasionally Xanax when I had to. I used them off and on until about Late Feb. I noticed that my tolerance was building even though I didn't use them every day. I dropped them like a hot potato because I've seen how hard they are for people to kick. That's when the true hell broke loose in terms of utter sleeplessness. That was all of March for me and well into April. So, beware, my friend.
Should I try an Ativan or klonopin? There is zero danger of me abusing either of those not my thing. I just remember I did that before and upon waking felt super panic and worse. I haut don't know. Ill try the backwards number thing and for the massage yes I do but she is asleep. Maybe I'll try that tomorrow if I'm not done in by insomnia. I just don't remember if this is normal or not. I do wonder one thing though i was hitting the ambien HARD like 3-4 x per day just up to like yesterday for about 3-4 days through the worse of it. I know I know bad dangerous choice but I was desperate. I just wonder if this insomnia is some sort of ambien rebound thing as well for the past few days? I'm out ambien now. Now I can abuse thiose so it's good they are gone. But maybe this is just normal right now with h WD?
Try to relax as much as you can and make sure it's totally silent and dark as possible. Count backwards from 100 over and over. You will find yourself skipping numbers and losing your place, then you will wake up. I don't know if it was keeping my mind from jumping all over the place or what, but it helped me get some sleep. Take an epsom salt bath as hot as you can handle it first, the relaxation is good rest, even if you don't sleep.
Hey Back2Me, do you have anyone there who can give you a long massage and/or foot rub after a hot salt bath?
Looks like no sleep. :((((((((((
Damit
Yeah, but I'm coming off 20 yrs. of Methadone/ almost 30 of Heroin. I was never that expert a sleeper to begin with! So, don't worry. It won't happen to you unless you're coming off a hardcore 'synthetic' kick.
Do you still have trouble with sleep at 4 months?
Hey that' great ariley13. Congrats on day 4! It sounds like you and Back2Me are in the same exact place! I"m with you guys until I finally sleep (one of these months or years...) HA! It's all good.
Hey i'm probably gonna be up for most of the night too so i'm here if you need to talk. We are on the same time line starting day 4 yay!
Yeah, Weaver. It's be 'Lindberger' or maybe..dare I say, 'Headcheese'.... I know, I know.... I should be shot for that one..Getting punchy, here. (Let's all have an all night fondue party and keep Back2Life company..)
If you get some sleep - you might be able to go back to work by then. You'll probably have low energy for a while and your emotions might be helter - skelter but it just might be doable!
Play it by ear. I know you're concerned about practical matters but try not to stress over it right now.
You're doing great! The fourth day - you're practically golden! Way to go..Very impressive. Proud of you & you should be, too. We're with you all the way.
Ya Gross..It reminds me of the song "Oh Oh that smell can't you smell that smell" Sorry Back2Me for High Jacking you post...lol
hahahaha detox cheese...now that's funny...gross but funny!! LOL
Man you guys are great. Ill keep everyone posted on things. Evolver glad to see you still with me and gastem those were some encouraging words. As of 6pm tonight I have started day four. Hopefully tomorrow or something will turn the corner for me. I hope I can sleep some tonight without waking up in a complete panic attack 3 seconds after I shut my eyes.
I'm wondering if i can make it back to work by day 7-8?
OH Weaver you are Toooo Funny..The DETOX CHEESE..lol
Oh yes, the detox cheese. That's what it reminded me of, really aged and really sharp. Nobody in my family will ever forget the smell. I felt like my scrotum belonged to a billy goat, except the does don't like it. It's weird though, we are continually detoxing in active use, my wife can testify, but it did get worse in detox. Yay, it's leaving your body, you're doing really great.
Hi..Yes they said it right up above..The poisons will come out from the skin, nose, eyes and you will run to the Bathroom alot too!! The smells are strange but it is part of the detox state..I noticed lots of new and surprising things..But it was for the best in the long run...Like healthier nails, hair, The light shinning Bright back in the Eyes..It does get so much better..Not a bad idea to put some vicks under the nose like Gasten said..I did and it helped me Breath better too..Great Job you are just ticking away with the time..
Bless
vickie.