addicted to oxycotine

[oxycrossdresser]

Hi I am new to this forum, hi all. I have  been addicted to pain killers for about 4 years now i got hooked after my 3rd back surgery. I have been to drug rehab once and was clean for 6 months but then my pain management doctor put me on methadone because none of the other non narcotic pain meds were helping with my pain, i am now on 40mg oxycontin 3 times a day and 30mg oxycontin for break though pain. I try to use them as scripted but i often end up taking to many and run out before my next script is due i usually have to limit how many i take a week before i am due another script so i don't run out completely. I really hate what these drugs are doing to me, i want to get of them but i am scared my doctor will just cut me of completely and i will have to go though those horriable withdrawl pains. Oh by the way as you may have noticed from my nick name i am a crossdresser, this has nothing to do with my addiction but i thought it better to let you all know who your talking with up front.
I desperatly need to get of these meds, but i don't want to go into rehab again (that was a horriable place) any ideas what i can do?.  

[clean_in_ks]

Just wanted to let you know that the person you are posting to hasn't been on the forum for 9 years now.  

[JG1970]

Oh I also forgot to mention the analgesic and anti carcinogenic and neuroprotective benefits of cannabinoids-some people claim that cannabis worked soo much better than the narcotic analgesics that it's efficacy cannot be denied-since THC is the principal chemical in cannabis that makes one feel "high", you can now get the medically significant analgesic/anti carcinogenic/and neuroprotective properties of another medically significant chemical in cannabis: CBDs, which are potent analgesic, antispasmodic, muscle relaxant effects, without making you feel "high"-so I'm thinking that there could be a possible synergy between what ur already on and cannabinoids, particularly CBDs as they may make u feel more relaxed due to it's muscle relaxant effects-parents of children with what was previously considered an untreatable level of epilepsy-and that have open minded, progressive doctors, have been prescribing CBDs to their young patients with what some parents call a "miraculous" turn around in the frequency and intensity of their children's epilepsy-in fact a special strain of cannabis was bred that contained VERY little THC, but was chock full of CBDs, which some open minded parents allowed their doctors to prescribe it to their sometimes VERY young patients, as they were explained to, that it would not get them "high", but replaced sometimes up to 10 different medications to control their seizures and were positively AMAZED at how well it worked, and there are really no drug-food, or drug-drug interactions and there is ABSOLUTELY NO ability to OD on this med-no one in history has EVER OD'd on cannabis-it just physically impossible for that to happen! So just thought I'd add that as a possibility for you-because the synergy between what ur already on and cannabinoids-and by maybe using this combination, you may be able to reduce ur use of the narcotic meds, and again on a time scale that is comfortable for you-just a thought u may want to consider-cannabinoids in conjunction with what ur already on-as it would allow you to be able to eventually possibly reduce ur dosage of narcotics down to nil, and then you'd only be using cannabinoids to control ur pain-and cannabinoids are proven anticarcinogenic, and neuroprotective (so the whole LIE that cannabis kills brain cells is not only false, but completely backwards-it PROTECTS your brain cells from damage! Just a thought that you may want to consider...I hope that ur doing better oxycrossdresser-oh and being raised in Portland, OR and eventually moving to San Fransisco, ur sexuality does not bother me or even makes me raise an eyebrow as, personally, is none of my business-if you were my patient it wouldn't make a difference WHATSOEVER in the quality of care you would receive from me! I wish you the VERY best of luck in combatting this problem you are faced with, and hopefully consider cannabis as an addition to ur current narcotic therapy-it could eventually even replace the narcotics you are on-oh and the strain of cannabis that was bred to help a little girl with her seemingly intractable seizures-cannabinoids replaced 11 different meds she was on down to just cannabis-that was bred specifically for her-and her name is Charlotte and so the strain was aptly named "Charlotte's Web" and is helping many more children like her! So please give it some serious thought oxycrosssresser, before just offhandedly dismissing it...the best of luck to you!

[JG1970]

I am a CCRN (critical care registered nurse)-I was an RN, but went back for more medical "schooling", because to be able to be the RN on LifeFlight, I needed my critical care designation-I wanted to be the RN on LifeFlight, because it reminds me of what I did in the military-I was a USN FMF Hospital Corpsman (made it to 2nd class petty officer-E5) and was deployed with the Marines during Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm, as the Marine Corps do not have field combat medics like the Army does, they use USN Hospital Corpsmen, so I had to go thru boot camp twice basically to see if I was physically capable of keeping up with my Marine BIA (brothers in arms)-and I ended up with a severe case of PTSD-but LifeFlight is where I felt my skills would be put to the best possible use-as I've seen the horrors of war and the atrocities that accompanied it...and now I'm going back to medical school to aquire my PA license-2 more yrs of CME (continuing medical education)-because I discovered that I was better than most MDs in diagnosing injuries and diseases-so to be able to diagnose, treat, & prescribe meds-so I'm now going for my PA license-I'm an "atypical CCRN"-most of my coworkers have nicknamed me House (after the fictional character in the show of the same name-and I also have chronic pain issues from being in a terrible MVA (motor vehicle accident that just about killed me-I ended up in NICU (neurological ICU for 2 weeks-then in a "regular room for 2 more weeks-because I suffered an Occipital Skull Fracture with an epidural hematoma-that thank God resolved itself with out intracranial pressure relief-basically the drill a small hole in ur skull to relieve the pressure, because the increased pressure on the brain is basically what kills you-I also suffered 8 thoracic compression fractures (8 out of the 12 vertebra that comprise the thoracic vertebra-I lost my sense of smell for quite awhile and with it my sense of taste also was gone-but enough about me-I just wanted to let you know that I do indeed know what I'm talking about...anyway, there have been some VERY good suggestions made here-I was going to say to have ur pain management doc switch you to methadone-and then to lower your dosage slowly-how quickly you manage to adjust to the level of methadone that would still help your pain, but only lowered when YOU (NOT the doctor) feel comfortable in and at the rate which you feel is appropriate-as pain is a very subjective thing-as in what for you might be an 8 or 9 on the 10 point pain scale (10 being the worst pain you can possibly imagine and 1 being pain free-it's very subjective as not everyone reacts the same to pain as others do-what might be a 3 or 4 for some people could be a 7 or 8 to you-so you would need a pain management MD or PA or NP that understands this...seeing as you have already gone that route (but my question to you is did you try to lower your dosage as YOU saw fit-did you try that?)...my next suggestion would be the aforementioned Suboxone route as Suboxone contains Narcan, which would stop you from exceeding your dosage because the antagonist properties of naloxone (Narcan) would keep you from upping your dosage intentionally because the naloxone would kick in and throw you into pretty much instant narcotic withdrawals-so my props to those that had suggested the methadone route and the Suboxone route...there is also Talwin-NX (which is pentazocine an agonist narcotic but the NX refers to the naloxone in it-also preventing you from increasing your dosage to achieve a "high" from it-if the Suboxone is not working that well for you-I would suggest switching to TalwinNX, as, like I said everyone reacts to different opioids differently...basically I'm saying that if the buprenorphrine is not working to control ur pain, try switching to TalwinNX, as it is a pretty potent narcotic agonist, but is also mixed with naloxone to prevent abuse-as in like Suboxone (which is buprenorphrine mixed with naloxone to have the same effect-of having the patient up his/her dosage to achieve a "high"-so I'm just saying that if buprenorphrine isn't working to control your pain, try pentazocine (Talwin)-cause just like pain is very subjective, the narcotic meds are also VERY subjective, and TalwinNX is basically the same concept-mixed with naloxone to prevent abuse-so if buprenorphrine is not working for your pain the pentazocine might work better for you, so you never really know which would work better for your pain control until you try it-both are mixed with naloxone to prevent abuse-but I just wanted to add that there are some EXCELLENT posts/replies presented here (nice job people!)-they basically said everything that I was going to say so I tip my hat to those that suggested a slow and measured reduction in your methadone dosage, based on how you feel about your ability to deal with the pain and find a pain management doc that is willing to work with you like that, or switch to Suboxone and work on a dosage reduction that works for you-not one based around a doctor's "timeframe schedule"-I just wanted to add that if buprenorphrine is not working for your pain, that there is an alternative medicine that works much in the same way (TalwinNX)-just saying this because much like pain relief is a subjective thing, pain relieving narcotic meds are also very subjective also! And a salute to those of you who offered this very well thought out advice-just wanted to let you know that there is a Suboxone alternative in TalwinNX-excellent posts people, and to oxycrossdresser I hope that you are doing better! Over and out folks!

[quitinoxys]

You are absolutely right he has to want to get off the oxys himself. Making a list is a small step but honestly he needs to make the leap and stop using. You can't make him stop he has to want to. Maybe you should show him the postings in this forum and then he can see how can be if he gets clean.  There is a lot of good people here that give great advice. Good luck   I will pray for both of you.

[heartbroken777]

Hi folks, Well I am on the other side of the tracks. I have a spouse who has been addicted to oxycotine pain medication for 3 years. I have known for two of those. I am so heartbroken and torn inside. I am slowly losing the man I love. All of the above remedies can only work when you can finally decide that you are master of your mind. I keep telling him..." it is up to you". I have made a suggestion to him recently that he should keep a list of all the things he can and will lose if he continues to use. He should read this list as many times a day it takes.

[Mis Take]

There is a great website called Suboxone.com.  On there, they give a place where you can put in your zip and they will list the docs in your area that are able to rx the meds.  Please keep me updated on your progress.  THere is also a great post on pg 3 that is entitled methadone detox by tobbs.  I and others talk about the pros and cons and I found what others wrote very interesting.  Read if you have the time.  Talk to you soon.  Good luck w/ all.

sincerely, M

[kwestent]

if you are just on the meds for pain then the subo's work great but you have to be true to yourself because if your on it for another reason it wont help. I am on subo's which true does work great for the withdrawal and i was taking 300mg of vico's a day and blowing back 160mg of oxycotin(there is an expensive habit). now that i am off i have no craving for the painkillers but i suffer from the emotional stuff i was trying to suppress so just be aware in case you get hit with that

[lightaftdark]

Im sorry Mis Take...I meant to address the Suboxone info to Needs2BClean...although for everyone

[Mis Take]

Hi, I saw your post and wanted to quickly say that I will def answer any questions you may have.  I have to run to the counselor now but there are some posts further down, I think.  I replied to To..somebody.  Anyways the responses are Suboxone , suboxone 2 and suboxone 3.  That may help and I will post more when I return.  Good luck and Keep your chin up - This will work - if its the right thing for you.


Sincerest Wishes,
M

[Needshelp2Bclean]

I am new to the forum, and something you said interested me. I am soooo addicted to pain pills. Mostly Lortabs, and Percocets, I try to stay away from the OCs, but lately they have also been an issue. I have been using now for about 5 years when I was in a car accident. I am very interested to know more about Suboxone. What is it exactly? You mentioned something about it helps with withdrawls, (Which we all know is Hell on earth.) Is it addicting, like replacing one addiction with another? I could really use your input on how to battle this addiction. I have done cold turkey a few times, the longest being 7 months, but tragedy struck in my life causing me to relapse. That was almost 2 years ago, and now the longest I can go without is a week.
If you could please answer my ?s about Suboxone, that would be great, and anyone else that has suggestions for me would be awsome.

Thanks for your input, SRG

[lightaftdark]

Hi guys. I am new to this forum but feel that my knowledge could be helpful to you as your comments and stories have helped me through my addiciton. I have been addicted to pain killers and heroin for 2 years and have just recently taken the steps necessary to get help for myself. I was motivated by the fact that I don't want to be prisoner to these deamons anymore! They destroyed me financially and emotionally and have greatly (and negatively) affected my relationships and interactions with the people around me. I find great comfort and support from this forum and want to lend my support to all of you. I have started seeing a therapist who began treating me with Suboxone. I would reccommend this treatment to anyone who is ready to get help. I agree with others who say that treatment wont be successful unless the addict is ready to help themselves. I didnt think that I was addicted and I certainly didnt think that I needed help until I was cut off from my family and from their financial support. Suboxone is a partial opioid agonist and opioids like pain killers and heroin are full opioid agonists. A full opioid agonist is one that fully binds to the opioid receptors in your brain, thus giving you a complete feeling of euphoria. A partial opioid agonist is one that partially binds to the opioid receptors in your brain, thus giving you a minimal feeling of euphoria while at the same time, blocking other opioids from binding to those receptors. Thus if you take any type of opioid while you are on Suboxone, you will not feel the full pleasurable effect of the drug, thus giving you less positive reinforcement when taking a drug like heroin, lessing your desire to take a drug like heroin. I find that I am able to achieve a minimal euphoric feeling from Suboxone but mainly, the drug allows me to function normally. I can get up easier in the morning and participate in activities that I enjoyed before my addiction - like going to the gym. I am also less moody. The most important benefit resulting from treatment with Suboxone for me is that I am less focused on combating withdrawal symptoms (since they are essentially nonexisistent with this drug) and cravings and can direct my focus to more pressing issues such as why I began using the opioids in the first place. Attacking the underlying problems to my addiction I believe will ensure my long-term recovery. I hope this helps! Again, I really enjoy this forum and I would welcome any questions, comments, or responses. My prayers are with you all.

-Kate

[oxycrossdresser]

Hi and thanks for all your comments. How do i go about getting this suboxone?.

[Mis Take]

I too was addicted to Oxycontin - terrible lil things, hu?  They just about tore my family apart and I consider us a pretty normal group.  It can get to anyone - that's the scary part.  Anyway after my 2nd surgery (fusion) I took Norco until either that stopped working or I wanted to be "higher"  Don't really know which - Ive lied to myself for so long.  Anyway - Last month, I had enough and found this place.  A lifesaver.  Someone was talking about Suboxone and I knew that it was the answer.  I started it on 3.19 and haven't really looked back.  No physical w/d and really no cravings.  Being a full time mom - I couldn't really go through the pains of w/d and rehab was not an option (for me).  Suboxone has worked really well.  I'll be happy to share more w/ you if you would like to know.
If not, I wish you all the best, whichever way you go about getting "clean"  It sounds like you have made the first and hardest step.  Now just find your way, and kick butt!!!  
Being here helps alot as well.  Stick around and ask questions.  There really are a lot of intelligent ppl here.

good luck and God Bless!
M

[avisg]

oxycrossdresser,
Welcome to the forum, have you looked into a doc that could prescribe suboxone
For WD and cravings From what I have heard it works quite well .However then you will still have to deal with your pain level that I am not so sure what you could do It sounds like your back pain is real and bad. plz let us know how you are doing .
Avis