Thank you for the advice. This does make a lot of sense and I will try the b12 but does it have to be b12 or can it be a b vitaman complex w b12@1000mcg? I remember using the sublingual b12 as a supplement when I was weight training until I found out it was just another marketing gimmick in the supplement industry, they pull off a new one every few months or so, and I have not waste any money for quite a few years on supplements with the exception being 1 a day multivitamans for men and omegas. I also have taken b12 shots along with testosterone, got a quick but short lived strength boost but I dont think it was the b12, think it was the steroids, that was a few years back before the benzos.Id like to make this the last post on this forum, but you are welcome to post me on the social, just look for the eye pic........swagger
Saw your photos this morning and enjoyed them.
You are withdrawing from 2 drugs(alcohol and benzos) and the panic attackes are probably withdrawal from both esp the benzo.
If you are able to cope and understand the panic attacks stay at that dose for a longer and taper very slowly from the benzos because they are helping your withdrawal from alcohol.When you are having a panic attack,pop a b12 1000mcg under the tongue and it helps the nervous system and has a placebo effect without being harmful.
Good to see you posting and keep plugging swagger.
Im good dave, I will be fine, at the moment my freind on another post is having a very rough go with deppression and snortin, maybe you can jump in there too and help him to He could use all the support he can get right now..
If anythings for sure Swagg, we haven't liked the way we've been feeling and want to feel better..So only one way to do that..Keep probing for the thing that works. And talking here really is a big step in that direction..Has been for me..I know that..:)
OK you got me, bravado was a wrong word choice, but remember you are not easily offended, so maybe I was under the impression you were too strong willed to allow even a hard core drill sergeant to even rattle your cage. But doing the math you enlisted in 79? You are 47 now? You had to have been very young as was I and in those days they didnt play around. I thought it was a joke when I reuped in 88 seeing all these young scared kids around these phony tough drill sergeants and conditions were way more better then.Im getting off subject so back to drugs, Im aware you dont have a magic cure but just talking about it works wonders. btw what is this humor you reffed to? also sent you a note.......peace sway.......swagg
Im sorry Sara 41? Thank you again for all your support.
Congrats on your sober time!!! That is an awesome accomplishment so keep it going!!!
Yes i do like to ask that question and i will continue. We just lost a very valuable and loved man on the alcohol forum last week. He was 41. It was a huge loss to us. sara
yeah i remember. i should probably discuss that part in a pm. do i boast about bravado? i probably just stewed the parts that cause normal responses. lol. seriously though, i do know what you mean. i wouldn't wish that feeling on anyone. thanks for putting it in terms i can understand. that must be teriffying! i apologize if i have down played how you feel. i didn't know it was that bad. i have zero experience in knowing what to do for that. zero!
Going on a solid week , you love to ask that question , makes me feel guilty just thinkin about havin a cold one! You would make someone a very good AA sponser. swagg
How long has it been since you drank now?
You still here? your getting as bad as me. I dont know what humor you are reffering to? Anyway back to the benzos, Can you remember that feeling you had when you stepped off that bus at fort wherever it was you did basic? and be honest-I know you were young then so you could not have had all this bravodo you boast about now, well that is pretty close to the same feeling I get when I go without the benzo for a few days. Technically I believe its called the fight or flight syndrome but ten times worse when I go without. Yes humor is a good thing but sometimes my choice of words offend some people. swag
i see you haven't lost you sense of humor. that's a good thing. sway
You mentioned the lake , yes but sway did also want to go to the lake today, so it was a mix-up in commo. My bp is not good and I take meds for that as well, but its not in a dangerous state. I think once the beer intake is out of my system that will drop bp some as well as a few pounds. I have not smoked for many years , but I picked up the nasty snuff habit years ago and that is a mofo to get off of. that is also a bp problem. geez I finally got my laptop away from her. swagg
Hey Swagg,,I think it was me that mentioned the lake the other day. I took all the kids out for a cookout,etc.
Not sure about your symtoms, If there physical like you say, it might be wd's or it might be that you have a condition that causes some anxiety. Reason I say this is have been living with a form of anxiety for a number of years. I don't know where it comes from, but know its there..I don't take any meds though for it though..I tolerate it but sometimes wonder why as it is bothersome..I encountered what your taking one time but never really can remember having issues like you describe though inbetween doses. I took xanax morso than that to which I walked away from without much difficulty when I finally let go of them. Of course I think this was a replacement med situation though. As this would have been about the time my back problems went ballistic in 2004 and pain meds came into the picture.....How's your blood pressure? Do you smoke at all?...David
they are working on the road. too hot to sit in traffic. will try again tomorrow. say outside in my chair for a while though. just not the same, lol
Never mind I just got it.....drug of choice....wake up swagg!!!!!
It is physical sway , in fact I dont even think about it at all. I think it may be extreme anxiety. I know I need to do the baby steps tapers, I was just wondering if this was WD? BTW thought you went to the lake? swagg P.S DOC ? doctor ?
could it be that you are thinking about it so much that you are causing yourself to freak? i never experienced what you are going through, so don't really know. i know i had to get out of my own head to keep from dwelling on my DOC. now i just stay out. i am much happier that way. just a thought. peace, sway