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feeling poor
its been 12 hrs since i had any pills, starting to feel very off headache and i bit achey ohh what will tomorrow bring :( any tips on sleeping? its the one thing i am dreading!
I am so proud of you and excited that you told your husband and he is being so good about it! I'll be praying for you - hoping you can get some sleep and sending strength your way to get through the next week. We are here for you!
thanks for all your help, the support is amazing going to bed now its 9pm over here and havint slept since yest what with the anxiety of it all so i am pretty tired tonight will keep you all posted on my progress god bless xxxxxxxxx
Well you're in for a rough couple of days , I won't kid you, but it is roughly 3 to 5 days of the worse stuff then it gets better. Do what ever you can to get sleep.. Some may not agree but valium or some sort sedative is essential through the first 5 days only...good luck
i know this must seem silly but i really cant bring myself to go to doc he is a family friend and not very understanding the website really has helped so much and its only been a day, i will try the thomas recipe i believe so much that i can do this i know i can positivity thats the name of the game!
If you cannot taper or cannot get help from your dr., then follow the thomas recipe above... I highly recommend seeing a doctor. Clonidine helps tremendously... it can mean the difference...also keep posting.. being in touch with people who have gone through helps alot...you are not alone..
Welcome,
May I ask you a couple of questions....
what is your drug of choice?
how much do you take a day?
how long have you been taking it?
May I ask you a couple of questions....
what is your drug of choice?
how much do you take a day?
how long have you been taking it?
There's some information on my profile page. Click the blue Ga Guy link to the left of my post.
THOMAS RECIPE
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper, Magnesium and Potassium (you may not find the potassium in the same supplement).
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Start the vitamin/mineral supplement right away (or the first day you can keep it down), preferably with food. Potassium early in the detox is important to help relieve RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome). Bananas are a good source of potassium if you can't find a supplement for it.
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
Continue to take the vitamin/mineral supplement with breakfast.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper, Magnesium and Potassium (you may not find the potassium in the same supplement).
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Start the vitamin/mineral supplement right away (or the first day you can keep it down), preferably with food. Potassium early in the detox is important to help relieve RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome). Bananas are a good source of potassium if you can't find a supplement for it.
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
Continue to take the vitamin/mineral supplement with breakfast.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better
we just got some vitamins, immodium and nurofen not sure if its right but hey anything worth a try, my hubby being so good, rubbing my back and legs when it gets bad, i am not working till monday, what will i be like by then?
does keeping busy help? i love walking and believe it or not cleaning!! i havent looked at thomas recipe but i will find it x
What did you and hubby pick up at pharmacy? is there any way you can get some clonodine?
it helped me so much...
Good luck , it will be tough, but i promise it will get better...
do you have to work?
Thank god i didn't, and i don't know how others did, they are tough!!
But so are you, and now that hubby knows don't you feel great...
make sure you have immodium, i use the pills not the liquid..i could not get it down.
r2r
it helped me so much...
Good luck , it will be tough, but i promise it will get better...
do you have to work?
Thank god i didn't, and i don't know how others did, they are tough!!
But so are you, and now that hubby knows don't you feel great...
make sure you have immodium, i use the pills not the liquid..i could not get it down.
r2r
Tomorrow will bring more of the same if not more issues. Hang in there. I've found staying busy helps majorly. You gotta stop sometime. Why not now? Good luck!
Do you have any benadyl? Do u have anything that the thomas recipe calls for?? Ruthie
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