HORRIBLE DR. STORY OF WITHDRAWL

[oxyaddict420]

When my main DR. left the clinic I was at I was forced to have a replacement..  My (original)DR. was prescribing me 80mgoxycontin--40mgoxycontin--and 40mg roxicet-percoset whatever.. That along with Xanax--klonopin--

When she left this (replacement) which was only a P.A called me over the phone to tell me that he was going to take me off everything!!!  We disagreed, but he had the final say so-- anyway so when I went in he basically wouldnt let me get a word in about anything.. IT WAS A ONE WAY CONVERSATION!

He said that he could (safely) cut me down 80% from what I was on.. He said he would be nice and only vut me 60% instead(what a tool)  
So I was like whatever.. He made me sign a pain management contract or he wouldnt give me anything.. And then made me take a U.A  He even told me that he didn't expect me to even come back for a follow up because that is what alot of (narcotic users) do when they are told that they ar eebing taken off..  Anyway I did go back and he told me that he found something in my Urine that was not prescribed to me..  I tolf him that I had had those from a previous script(which i acutually did) and that I was using that to get through withdrawl inbetween the transition period of my original DR leaving and getting a new app set up to re-evaluate my pain management!  

HE FLIPED OUT ON ME-- CALLED ME A DRUG ADDICT- SAID I BOUGHT OFF THE STREETS AND SAID NOPE-- NO MORE NARCOTICS FROM THIS OFFICE!  He also said ALOT MORE VULGAR STATMENTS THAT I WONT GO INTO!  He said I violated the pain managment contract.. Yet the meds that were in my system were from before I had even signed the contract.. I DEMANDED A RE-TEST!!  I knew I had what I was supposed to have in my urine..  HE DECLINED- then further stated that it would be a waste of $180.00 it cost to have it done just to find out it would be a failed U.A!!!  He REFUSED me a re-test, or even a new test!  I was SO PISSED OFF MAN!  I had ALWAYS passed every U.A I ever took with my original DR.  I never once ran out early* Never once had a HOT U>A* Never had one issue with her.. Plus he said I didnt even have any Klonopin in my system and claimed I was selling pills(NEVER EVER)!!!! How is that possible, when I took one before bedtime EVERYNIGHT--?

So what does he do?  HE CUTS ME OFF--EVERYTHING--COLD TURKEY-- How jacked up is that?  I had been taking Klonopin-Xanax swiching between the 2 of them for over 2 years straight..  I told him I was concerned for my health and my fear of dying.. He said that if it was that abd to go to the ER!  I blew up on him and then caused a huge scene that about got me kicked out of the clinic..  I mean is that right? Is that fair? Is that healthy?  HELL NO!!!!!!!!!

I am going to repost this under its own thread because it ended up being longer than planned.. Sorry

[traveladdict]

You have been saying that you wanted to quit for two weeks. Well get ready for the ride. I just finished two c/t off 12 yrs off morphine and vico I am still alive it sucked but it is doable.  You have been here for awhile you know the drill. It doesn't matter if the dr is right or wrong the have control of the scrip pad. Strap on and go for the ride.

[oxyaddict420]

Tammy, yes I have heard public have issues, bu then again who cares? This is our lives and if this is helping you manage them screw um!!!  I am glad you are not abusing pain killers, just sticking to the methadone!

zigiz- Thanks for the concern.. I  just want to clear up that I am not addicted to the klonopin.. I use to be dependant on it for about 3 years because the DR;s had me on it.. I never abused it 1 time.. NEVER! I was always proud of that, yet I would intake 500mg of oxycodone in that same day!  So as for now, I have maybe 23-30 of the 1mg klonopin and I only take them rarley just because I do have a hard time sleeping and they make me anxiety better at times.. so im good their man, but thanks!

[tammyk_40]

Hi the reason I say the clinic was a big mistake, is because in reality I will probably never get off of it. I wish I knew about the sub before I got on the program. Because I bet I would have gotten off of that by now. Ive been on the program 4 yrs now. Actually it doesnt bother me, being on methadone, but society sure has a problem with it. I only go once a week because all my u/a's are clean. I think about it as being my depression medicine.

[ziggiz]

Hi,

Whatever you do taper off the Oxy and get that out of your system before you try coming off the diazapams. Xanax WDs are worse than they will be from the Oxys and last much longer.

I came off a Oxycontin and Xanax addiction CT a few years ago and thought I was going to die. I had been living with my GF who had a script for both and when we split up I was unable to come up with more of either drug.

I only slept a few hours over the next week and I was a total wreck. I moved from every flat surface in the house to the next trying to get comfortable enough to sleep before passing out for maybe and hour and being up another 36-48. By the 7th day I was sitting in my bedroom totally lost in a fog and had to chug 4-5 glasses of tea to shock my brain with enough caffeine to bring myself back to reality enough that I could think again.

At somewhere around the 3 week point I didn't know if I was getting better or worse and felt like all my vital organs were shuting down. My feet and legs began to tingle and every time I closed my eyes it was like watching a horror movie on my eyelids.

A friend finally stopped by and gave me 6 Klonopin which I really think saved my life. After that I was able to get a little sleep and the WD symptoms began to subside. It was a full month before I started to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Right now I'm in the middle of a Methadone taper and plan on being here for a while if you need to talk. I'll be needing some support myself before this ride is over...

Good luck

[oxyaddict420]

I feel what you are stating, and even agree with you.. today is not the day for me persoanlly to get clean.. I have been using pain killers for over 11 years and abusing very bad for the past 3.. The past 1 1.2 have been taking so much I am suprised I am not dead..  500-600mg per day.. oxycodone..

I am going to get on a suboxone treatment plan.. Hopefully one that does a maintnance program.. It might take me a month, might take me a year.. I tell you one thing.. I AM GOING TO GET CLEAN AND BEAT THIS!!!

[girlybuff]

Sometimes God does for us (i.e cutting you off) what we cannot or will not do for ourselves.  Look at it as a gift and make today the first day of the rest of your life, sober life.
God bless.

[oxyaddict420]

Why was the clinic a mistake?

Also you made me laugh very hard with that lesbian story!!!  Rosie odonell.. hahahahahaha

From what I have heard about prices I get them for pennies compared to most people..  If I had to pay the prices I have heard some say, I just plain couldnt afford it..  Someone said it must be harder to quit when they are so cheap, but i didnt know the difference and to me $10 for an 80oxy was just expensive--  So I hope the Suboxone works for me.. I will no more soon( I HOPE)

[tammyk_40]

Hi sorry to hear about this. I truely hated having to depend on other people for their pills. They want you to kiss their butts. This one lady was a lesbian, and very lonely. She had all the pills and I had a big habit. Since I wouldnt lay down in bed with her, she would play games with me, withholding pills from me, for days. Im not gay! This lady was the jolly green giant, she couldnt turn Rosie ODonnell on! Anyway, I went to a clinic (big mistake) and now she calls all the time wanting me to buy pills because she sure misses the amount of money I used to pay for those things.LOL!

[frootbar]

well, the story sure stinks.
(you must be a fan of steve austin, i like the hell no)
anyway, my doc has at times, removed me from any
scripts for opiates, will not, i mean, will not prescribe
percs or oxy unless you have an appendage falling off.
having said that, she is willing to deal with pain.  so,
while i've had to endure periods of no scripts over the
years, never heard such a radical story as yours...i hope
there is some fixing of this situation so you can at least
have some sanity.
take care
fb

[oxyaddict420]

Not sure if you mean Maker as in God.. If so then maybe yeah you are right.. If you mean my parents, then thats a BIG HELL NO!  Nothing about why this was done had anything to do with me.. Especially since she will have her percosets, he will have his oxy's and I wont have sh!t!!!!!

But the up side to all of that is that I am going to RE-CLAIM MY LIFE!!  I AM GOING TO GET CLEAN AND OFF NARCOTICS AND FEEL AGAIN..  

I WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE SWEET LOVE TO MY FIANCEE WITHOUT BEING IMAPTENT FROM THE PILLS---

I have done better in this last 3 weeks than I have in over a year.. I have had things happen that tell me IT IS TIME!!    After a while I will have a huge post saying "IM CLEAN,,NOW WHAT!!!!"   LOL

[oxyaddict420]

If you had read my whole post then you would have seen that I REQUESTED A RE-TEST MANY TIMES!  I was declined that oppertunity.. another reason I was so pissed.. I know that those tests are not 100% bullsh!t proof..

On to the other matter of my parents.. Yeah I know then better than anyone and this has NOTHING to do about helping me out.. I t has EVERYTHING to do with being selfish, for reasons I wont even post on here.. Point is all I wanted was maybe a 1 month heads up after years of my parents selling me this ****!!  Anyway, I will be doing what needs to be done regaurdless..  I am the only person that has control of me..  I will do this one way or another..  I will not go through cold turkey withdrawl again thats for sure.. I have been able to control not abusing my pills for about 3 weeks now, and I have no intention to start.. That doesn't mean it can't or wont happen.. But again this is ON ME!!  I WILL BEAT THIS ****!!

[marcatj]

hun, this may be tough to comprehend, but maybe it's direct help from your Maker, no matter why they chose to do this...

w/d's will not kill you.  you survive them.  so maybe it's just a kick in the butt to help you get off sooner.  i know you have a plan, but things don't always work out that way.. sometimes, in the long term, they work out better altho it may not feel like it at the moment.

hang tough buddy... it's gonna all work out...

:)
mj

[lashamummyof2]

just a note on UA since a lot of you seem to have crazy results...demand re-tests. when I was pregnant earlier this year I tested positive for HIV. SERIOUSLY. my doc said it was BS (and I knew there was no way) so I wasn't worried. They re-tested and it was fine. My point is, in these pain mngmt clinics where they test and judge you on one test, kicking you out or cutting you off without a second test from a separate lab is cruel and totally b/c of the $$$ it saves the HMOs. I live in Canada, so it's different here...still...fight for your rights!
can you imagine a positive HIV test while pregnant (never shot up, been with same guy for years etc...)?

don't stand for it!

[mshell62]

Well, I don't know your parents, however, for WHATEVER reason, pills are getting harder and harder for you to come by.  Could it be that they genuinely CARE about your well being?  Are they being selfish with the pills and want them for themselves?  Do they honestly want to quit as a family, since ya'll are all addicted?  (If I understood that correctly).  Only you know your parents.  

However, YES, under the circumstance, this truly SUX.  Yes, a "heads up" would have been nice.  A "one month warning" or something like you said.  

Thus, once again, the problem with "depending on something/someone".  You can only depend on yourself to get things done.  It was BOUND to happen someday, that your till would "run dry".  

Maybe you are gonna have to start your "plan" sooner than later.  I know this is ****.  We have to prepare our minds on this.  It is truly a delicate matter.  Especially being addicted so long, as in your case.

All I can say is be glad you have a plan, you have conviction... NO, you didn't want to be SHOVED into it or have it shoved down your throat, HOWEVER, could there be divine intervention????  Someone up there likes you and maybe telling you you better get this done sooner than later, because you are KILLING yourself????  

I don't know, but I like to look at all of the possibilities.  

I am here for ya friend.

Mshell

[oxyaddict420]

Wow, thanks alot for that inspiring post!!!!  That has made my night, especially after what I went rhough and found out tonight..  I have been getting pain killers from my parents for years now.. EVERY MONTH..  I have been getting around 15-30 80 mg oxycontin, and then 30-60 of the 10/325 percoset..  I count on these so much.. since it is family I get so-so prices, plus usually first dibs(as long as i have $$$)  Lately things have been different for some reason, not sure why..  

I have been getting told they are getting rid of more to some stranger than their own son.. Even though I pay the same price.. Thats bull right?  I mean I know it has to be weird for my mom, not so much my dad.. But it is what it is..  I have come to terms with that by now..  I just got 15 of the 80mg oxycontin like 2 days ago and thought I was on schedule to get the percs around 3-4 days after the oxy's.. Well I am told that they have decided to stop dealing with everyone(including me)  Saying that my dad is going to go in with her to the pain management DR and request lower dosage and that she is quitting altogather( YEAH RIGHT) But thats GREAT FOR HER!! IM SO HAPPY FOR HER!!!  

But the thing is that they didn't even give me any warning at all!! I MEAN NOTHING! Not even when they gave me the 15oxy did they say anything then. I am mad that after YEARS of this repatition and reliability of both parties that they would do this to me..  I am really not trying to be selfish, but the ONLY one that gets screwed by this is ME!!  I mean all I wanted was a heads up ya know?  I think after all the years and $$ spent and especially being my parents that they would at least see that and say " ok you have next month and then thats it FOR GOOD" But NO!! NOTHING!!  I tried to explain this to her and she said it was the addiction talking.. I said you are damn right it is, and your son saying that if it was the other way around and I dropped you like this You would be SO MAD!  It is just frustrating!!

Some of you might think oh well, good, whatever... But others know that in reality that this is going to screw me bad. Especially the ones that have taken the time to read my post about "my suboxone plan treatment"  I do have a plan to get clean, but it is going to take time to get it all going..  They knew about my plan as well, and also knew i have found this site and have found support.. They are addicts as well, and we have had to help eachother many many times when the others have ran out and go through withdrawl..  

HOW COULD MY OWN PARENTS DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT???  

[Savas]

This is why I always go into a situation like this with a microcassette recorder. Some may say that's a bit paranoid but you'd be surprised at the change in how the negations go when you get a professional on recording being abusive or not doing their job properly.

Unfortunately that's how it goes now. Pain management contracts are silly. The only time i signed one I noted on it next to the signature that this was done under protest, not that the contract or writing that means anything.

[headies]

That is the sadest most disgusting dr tale Ive ever heard. He will meet his maker soon enough, and when he or she stands before god, your suffering will be remembered, Smoking weed when going cold turkey helps, but not that much. But weed and zanax helped me enormously the one time I was coming off that much.

[mshell62]

You are a scream!  I like your style.  You know what you want to do, you know your personality type.  You know what you HAVE to do and those are some of the hardest things to admit.  The first huge steps.

You are honest with yourself and on this forum.  It is refreshing.  

You WILL succeed.  Maybe not today or tomorrow.  But with your drive, YOU WILL SUCCEED.  Your conviction is very, very strong.

As for that "Clinic Horror Story" - I think it should be sent to Stephen King so he can write a book about it.  This is TERRIBLE.  Very unprofessional for this "P.A.".  Oh, uh, and by the way, maybe he was ticked off because he IS ONLY  a "Physician's Assistant" and doesn't have the credentials to write a prescription for "anything we/you want"!!!!!    Terrible "bedside manor".    I am sorry you had to go through this HOWEVER, It was an eye-opener, wasn't it?  I mean, what if this happened any time you tried to get stuff.  Another good reason to get off of it.    (Thank goodness for the "friends on the street")  (No stone throwing, please).

OK
Thanks for sharing... It helps all of us

[wait2long]

this happened to me too hun...i was taking klonipin and xanax and suboxone...my first UA i tested positive for THC and negative for benzos, so my sub doctor did a retest, the second UA came out negative for THC, still negative for benzos ans positive for oxycodone...WTF!?  why would i go and pop a bunch of percocets in between tests...my doctor is simply awesome, she did her own UA on me and i passed with flying colors!!  thank goodness for her!
because if we went by the hospitals results i would have lost my suboxone and her for my doctor all because of a faulty test...i am so sorry you had to endure this from an obviously lousy doctor!
your doctor should have granted you your request for a re-test, this happens all the time, my sub doctor told me some people have failed and lost their kids and couldnt get their licenses back etc... a lot of major things rely on an accurate test...its not fair...she always grants a second or 3rd test because of this...all my tests were in the same week...it DOES happen!

[OBXman]

You just told MY story. Now I don't have to, LOL. Suboxone was a Godsend to me. It's the only thing that ever worked. The problem was, according to the protocol of the Suboxone program, Benzo's aren't allowed. It seems two or three junkies in France died from shooting up huge quantities of Subutex (the pure drug without the antagonist Naxalone added, rarely prescribed here) along with huge quantities of a Benzo. So with one stroke of the pen, the FDA disallowed all Benzo's from the Suboxone program. My doctor knew I wasn't taking large doses of Xanax, and I needed it for anxiety. He very kindly looked the other way for over a year, even though I tested positive for Benzo's every time. Xanax he had prescribed. Eventually I when I was down to 2 mg./day of Suboxone he said he just couldn't do it anymore. I had to make a choice: Xanax or Suboxone, not both. He could have lost his DEA license if he got caught. BTW, I chose the Xanax.

Please keep me informed about what your new doctor has to say about the combo of Benzo's and Suboxone. The protocol has changed somewhat since I was on it. For example, a doctor can now have up to 100 Suboxone patients, it used to be 30. I wonder if the Big Benzo Rule has changed.

The day you start Suboxone will be the happiest day of your life since you took your first opiate, I can promise you that! Keep us informed on how it goes. I'm interested.

My very best wishes to you,

Marc

[oxyaddict420]

Thanks mann.. I really feel a STRENGTH INSIDE OF ME THAT IS JUST WAITING TO BLOW UP AND TAKE OVER CONTROL OF MY LIFE!!!!

[taekwondo_fighter]

hey bro... this sucks...  that doctor has no right doing that..  he obviously thinks he's better than all of us, and doesnt know what its like to go through withdrawl..  he should have at least given you a second test to prove the first one wrong, and took your story into consideration.  i hope it works out for you

[oxyaddict420]

I would say more like finding it slowly... BUT THANKS ALOT!!!

He said he knew what it was like to be addicted because he smokes cigarettes!!  Which I have never in my life tried..  And I know they are addictive because my dad has smoked his whole life, and my mom too, but then she quit about 10 yrs ago i think.. It wasn't a walk in the park.. But that did not help me from wanting to kick this guys A$$ all over the place.. also like I said he was a Nurse practitioner! or P.A phsycian assicstant or whatever!(my spelling is horrible this morning)  

[1eagle]

Just a shot if sympathy here - the Doc should have been concerned with your health - did you ask if he had ever read the Hippocrattic Oath? I guess that I am not very shy with the Pro's Fortunately most of my experiences have been more positive than yours...glad you found the self control again.... thats the ticket!