Hydrocodone withdrawl

[pancake]

I want to withdraw from Hydrocodone. I've been on pain meds steadily for 2 years. A year and a half ago, I came off cold turkey from Percocet which I had been using for 6 weeks. It was the worst experience of my life.  Physical symptoms were horrible, but the depression was worst.  I have always struggled with depression and take effexor. I have used the drugs to self-medicate. Lately i've been taking Vicodin ES.  It no longer gives me that HAPPY feeling just keeps me going.  I am a married mother of two school age children.  Is there an alternative to  a detox center?  I still have the viocdin, could I gradually wean off of them if I enlisted some outside help.  I would rather die than face that debilitating depression again. My husband is aware of my problem and has been supportive. What about Clonodine; i've heard things about the patch.  Last time I withdrew I was up and around again on the fourth day.  I know that wouldn't be the case this time.  I know that I will need help to stay clean, but for now, I'm simply worried about the withdrawl and my children.  Please help if you can.
Thank you.

[lanas]

I came upon this cite this morning as I sit here waiting for a call from my doctor about refilling a vicoprofen prescription.  I've never done anything like this before (a bulletin board).  But I too want to get off this stuff but seem incapable.  I have a job I love but that is very stressful.  I get up at 4:45 am to work out of my home so that when I pick my daughter up from preschool at noon, I can have the day with her, unencumbered my other things (mainly my job).  She is 4 and the joy of my life.  Her father takes her to her preschool.  I am currently taking about 4-5 per day for migraines; it really helps, but I also recognize that I am taking it now because I need it to exist well.  I, like others, have taken Ultram.  It certainly will keep the withdrawal symptoms of hydrocodone away, but only causes its own.  I am just curious for any responses; I want to quit this, but I know if my doctor calls back and I have a prescription, I'll be at the pharmacy within 30 minutes...  I guess this is a cry for help, so Help!

[Telby]

I wanted to be sure to give you the receipe as I have translated from Thomas's. The real deal can be found at http://pub37.ezboard.com/bthenewaddictionmedicineforum.  Anway this is what I am taking for oxycontin withdrawal.  First thing in the morning I take 100mg. of B complex, 4,000mg.L-Tyrosine,2,000mg.vitamin C, a multvitamin, and I'm trying SAMe three times a day. IT is strongly recommended in the receipe to take a benzo such as valium,ativan, zanax, to get the through the first four days. i don't have benzo's so I can't do that I am also lucky that I can sleep. Sleep is often impossible so the more you can knock yourself out(safely) the better.  I have added the large dose of Vitamin C which i think is helping me to detox faster.  5HTP is also being used for depression and anti anxiety. In the past I have found Darvacet N100 helpful for short term withdrawal assistance.  I thought about Ultram but got way to scared after reading this board and seeing addiction potential.  The big thing I am trying to do is not to panic but to try and stay above it mentally. My worst day was the second day and I have felt better since, I still have a ways to go but I am determined.  Thomas does a much better job explaining the receipe so do check out the other board for it, once you get on at the bottom of the page you can follow directions to go right there.  Best of luck to you in this brave struggle.  telby

[Telby]

I went back to check the receip as I don't want to mis translate the important stuff that Thomas includes.  He suggests Vitamin B6 (100mg.x2) and stresses that people who are taking a SSRI anideperessent such as Prozac,Effexor, Paxil should not follow this receipe. The SSRI's already increase brain chemistry and the added amino acids could be too much.  He also suggests that for diahreha (spelled wrong) the only thing that works is Imodium so stock up on that.  IT is also suggested to include magnesium and zinc, I found a mag/zinc/calcium all in one that I take along with the other stuff. The metals can be dangerous in high doses so I only take one as it is also found in my multivitamin.  I am recommending the large dose of Vitamin C since it is the only thing i have changed recently and I have had a noticalbly less intense withdrawal. Nothing makes it painless, pay now or pay later.  The big thing is how you approach it mentally, if your scared and freak out as soon as you get sick it's got you.  again, good luck  telby

[pancake]

I'm obsessing today.....so here's one more question that has been on my mind a lot lately. What are the symptoms of liver problems from too much aceteminophen?  I drink much more than i should along with the addiction to narcotics. I find abstaining from alcohol much easier than going without the narcotics, but still, my drinking is a problem for me.  When I'm using, i'm drinking, bottom line. You needn't remind me of how dangerous this is, i know. Also, one more question if i may.  Is it dangerous to take ULTRAM when taking EFFEXOR; it seems to me i read that somewhere.  Thanx, P.

[Dman]

I started taking Vicodin ES 7.5 750mg two years ago while in the hospital for pancreatits.  I needed the medicine for 7 months.  When I tried to stop taking it...the withdrawals were too much to handle.  I couldn't funtion.  So I found a way to get them whenever I needed them.  How I am getting them is not important.  What is important is that it will land me in jail if ever caught.  I don't want to get caught but I do want to stop NOW.  I tried talking to the doctor that started me on the medicine.  He gave me some clondine (not sure how to spell it) but it didn't help with the severe withdrawls.  How do I find a detox in Houston where I can try and do this out patient?  I have a job and going into a detox for 2 weeks isn't an option.  However, if that is what it is going to take then I will resort to it.  I think with the support of meetings and a medical doctor watching over me daily...I can do it.  I know I need to and I know I want to.  Please someone...Help me so I can help others.  Tell me what my resources are in my city.  I would like to take some medication that will help keep me as comfortable as possible.  I need to sleep at night and funtion at work Monday thru Friday.  If anyone has done this successfully then please respond to my message.  I will be checking it daily.  If you are reading this message then you must be on this website and if your on this website then you must be addicted or know someone that is.  Let's help each other.  It is not our faults but it is our problem.  Let's do it together.  Thank you and god bless.

Dman

[skipper]

Dman:
my imagination runs wild at the thought of supplying oneself with
the poision of our choice. see i used to break into drug stores and doctors offices. i cleaned up my hand and went straight for 17 years. about the time my life looked pretty good, an old injury to my neck came back to haunt me with a vengence. now 2 cervical spine surgerys later the pain doctor tells me my pain is intractable. so i take 40mg. of oxycontin 3 times a day. if now could have been 25 years ago, i'ld be pleased as a pig in the poke. dope just isn't the fun it used to be!

with the exception of the federal narcotics hospital in Houston,
i'm not familure with detox/treatment in your area.

have you given any thought to thomas detox recipe? you will find
the details above in the post from Telby. I periodicaly detox my
self. i like to think of this as a "vacation" from drugs. i won't
go into the reasions i do this, but i do know the detox recipe from Thomas really does work well for me.

anyhow, welcome to the forum. there is always room for one more
addict in here, so come in out of the cold and keep posting!

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip