SUBOXONE TREATMENT

[oxyaddict420]

This is more of a statment than a question.. I have had some pretty evil personal messages sent to me lately, I guess because they see my mood is that I have pills and have relapsed again..  There are a few caring people that are my friends that know my situation and are going to be there for me 100%!!!  They are all people that I met through this site..  I am getting on an insurance plan that started Jan.1 and I am just waiting on the cards to come in the mail..  I have heard from others around my town that this is a great insurance plan..  So, I am going to research and see if the pain management DR's around my area will aceept my insurance for the visits or the meds or even(GOD WILLING BOTH)..

I have heard alot of people say that suboxone has saved their lives, and that it is great for recovery. I haven't heard alot of people saying how they came off of it and everything was great.. I have heard a couple to be fair..  I am personally going to try the suboxone treatment due to my major abuse and long term abuse of oxycodone 300-400mg per day! and anything else pain pill related!  I have went cold turkey so many times I would have to guess a number to count. Im sure it is close to 30-40 times though..  I have had this addiction for many years, and have decided I personally cant fix this overnight, and have came to terms to actually accept long term help..

I do want off pills

I do want a life without narcotics

I do want my life back

I understand that suboxone has strong opiate in it as well, but along with other stuff that helps as well. I have read up ALOT  on this, and I am hoping this will be what takes me through the dark tunnel to find the light at the end!!!

Please people that have nothing but evil things to say, keep them to yourself. It is hard enough dealing with this addiction to have to read hatemail!  And the people that keep sending me the great and insperational emails.. KEEP THEM COMING!  I am going to beat this deamon ******* of pain pills if it is the last thing I do..  Not everyone will agree with me, but I DONT CARE ANYMORE!  I need help, and I haven't tried this. Tried a million other things, but NOT THIS!   I may use and abuse up until the day I get on it, and that is just the honest truth.. But I tell you what, when I get on it I will do everything I am supposed to 100%  I dont care if it takes me 1 week or 1year!!!  Thanks to the people that truly support me and are there for me.. I could name names, but you all know who you are.. Sorry so long, but alot of people have been bashing me, and asking alot of questions that really arent their business. Hope this clears things up!

GOD BLESS--

WE CAN DO THIS

WE DESERVE IT!!

[oxyaddict420]

Still taking smaller doses of oxycodone until my suboxone appointment on March 11th, but I have went down EXTREMLY on my daily dosage and hourly dosage. As some of you might know I was abusing 30-40mg per 2 hours all day and night!  This was a horrid daily intake, but now I am taking 20-30 mg at most every 4-5 hours.. Ao this has been effective in making the pills last longer.  I have felt the slight witdrawl feeling around the 3 1/2-4 hour period, but I get through it.. I cannot wait until the 11th..

Also to LONESOME.. There is a new study that shows that only a little over 20% success for short term suboxone treatment, as where there is a 78% SUCCESS RATE FOR LONG TERM SUBOXONE TREATMENT.. This is where personal preference plays a part in recovery. We are all different and have to find what works for US!!

[CarissaLou]

NA CAN BE HARSH BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMENT AA. EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT AN ALCAHOLIC. I FIND IT TO BE MORE PEACEFUL AND CAN STILL RELATE TO A PERSON WHO HAS ADDICTED WAYS . I GO THERE AND LISTEN TO PEOPLES FEELINGS NAD THE NI CAN RELATE.

[CarissaLou]

HOW IS EVERYONE DOING TODAY? ARE YOU CLEAN? IF YOU ARE GIVE YOUR SELF A PAT ON THE BACK. IF YOUR NOT THAT IS OK YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

[LONESOME]

WHOA! YOU HAVE JUST HELP ME SO MUCH TODAY YOU AND EVERYONE HERE THANK YOU, TODAY IS MY 4 DAY OF OF HYDOCODONES AND MY 3 DAY ON SUBOXONE I'M ON 8MG A DAY NOW I DID 10MG FOR 2 DAYS AND DID 8MG YEST. AND I'M TRYING TO DO 6MG TODAY BUT IF I CAN'T I'M NOT GOING TO STRESS ABOUT IT AND YES SO FAR IS BEEN THE BEST CHOICE FOR ME AND ONLY ME, BUT ANYWAYS OXYADDICT YOU AND ME AND EVERYONE HERE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT AND YOU KNOW WE WILL MAKE IT AT THE OTHER END I PROMISE YOU THAT I FOUND OUT THAT I'M SO WHAT BIPOLAR AND I WAS MEDICATING MY SELF WITH THE WRONG MEDICATION, NOW THE DOCTOR PUT ME ON TRILEPTAL AND I'M DOING GREAT I SEE THINGS SO CLEAR NOT IN A FOG AND I'M HAPPY MY SELF AGAIN, AND YES I THINK WE NEED TO DO A FAST DETOX LIKE A 2 WEEK MAX WITH SUB I'M NOT AN EXPERT BUT PEOPLE HERE HAVE HELP ME MORE THAN MY OWN DOCTOR LOL, MY NEXT STEP IS TO GO TO COUNSILING I'M CHOISING NOT TO GO TO NA MY CHOICE ONCE AGAIN, BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH THANK YOU OXYADDICT AND HANG IN THERE WE LOVE  YOU, I LOVE  YOU OK.

[oxyaddict420]

good job WITHOUT CODIENE~

I know what you mena about certian DR's that just wirte a Opiate script like it's getting candy from a store or something.. Oh well. here we are, and now it is all on us.. So I am glad we have eachtoher, and that we are going to beat this ****..  Thanks for the positive post BObby!

[Flutterby111]

WITHOUT CODEINE-Yeah baby!  No opiate-at all!

Bobby-thank you! U are super kind....

Yes, we have to find what works for us!  What's working for me is that these opiates have caused me depression, and I'm the happiest person I know....and that tells me that this drug is evil and I'll never touch it again....I get angry when I crave it...but my addiction goes back so far with so many other chemicals, I was bound to get hooked on these too, when the doctors were giving them to me like candy....dirty sheisters.

[bobby139]

Don't listen to the evil comments...I don't know much about you but u r here and u are trying. Everyone has to do it there way. People can give advice but what we are here for too is to stand behind you no matter what.
We are here for you.
flutterby....you too, you have to do what you need to do. just hang in there both of you and keep posting for those who really care how it is going.

God Bless  :)

[oxyaddict420]

That is totally awesome YES!  Is it the fioricet with codiene, or without?  If it is without then that is even way more amazing since there is no narcotic, but only a samll amount of barbituate.. I have a full bottle of fioricet and dont ever touch it since it does nothing for me or my withdrawl either.. I have maybe 15 50mg tramadol left after a bottle of 120.. But those were taken around 2 months ago when I ran out of everything.. they did hold the withdrawl at bay better than having nothing. Dang they gave me energy as well.. But I did not have any w/d from them. THANK GOD!

You are awesome and DONT FORGET IT!  

SCREW WHOEVER SAYS DIFFERENT..

YOU HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT KIND AND SUPPORTIVE TO ME THROUGH MY RECOVERY ATTEMPTS.

[Flutterby111]

WORD!  Even my little guardian angel who held my hand through my withdrawls and saved my a$$ wanted me to go a little farther than I was willing too.   I get it.  I quit the perc c/t.  I flushed the tramadol...but I have chronic pain, and I never have ever abused fioricet ever.....and I refused to flush them.... I get the whole, flush em idea, i really do....and that worked for her.  but it wasn't working for me.  And I told her that.  It is what it is.  I've taken 3 total since my withdrawls 24 days ago.  I think I'm good....don't you"?

[oxyaddict420]

Thanks for all the support and kind posts.. It is people like you that make it nice to open up and be honest about the addiction.. I cant stand the "know it all goody goods that think their way is the only correct way of recovery"!  

We are all different and we all might need different approaches at this recovery.. I know what has worked for many others has just failed for me.. And what is going to work for me, is against what others want to do.. So it is an individual plan for the person..

DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO RECLAIM YOUR LIFE!

[oxyaddict420]

YO WHATS UP MAN?

The latest news is that the Sub DR cancelled my 26th app. on me the evening of the 25th(some notice huh?) I was so pissed off man. They made it for March 11th.  But I did get to go to my first addiction couselor meeting and it was very positive and great.  He reffered me to the Suboxone dR in there office and it is on the 14th of March..But I am on the cancellation list at both offices.. The counselor wants me to transfer to the DR there no matter what though.. I agree that it will be better to have them be able to communicate more effectively about my recovery. So as of right now I was able to get some oxy to make last until that appointment(which was blind luck and a long story, but a miracle pretty much)!  So I will be getting on suboxone around Middle of March, and then have one-on-ones with my addiction counselor every week, then he suggested that I go to as many NA meetings as I can stand at first.. Then since I am a paying patient there, they have group courses on many different topics, but he runs some about managing your life, and dealing with addicition and changing bad behaviours.. So as he put it, it will be a good idea to make this recovery my full time job and go at it harder than anything I have ever done before. I believe with all these tools at my doorstep that a new life is about to begin.. I AM SO FRIGGIN EXCITED BRO-- IT'S UNREAL!!

[addictedme]

In just about every one of your posts you talk about negative posts toward you but the negativity in each one seems to come from you. If you dont want me to respond to your posts I wont.My post said NOTHING about you failing,,if anything it only let you know what to expect IF you do attend na.You said that you"ve failed at staying clean about 30 or 40 times so I asked what you did those times to stay clean,,you never answered the question and your obviously upset that you cant or dont want to. I asked because maybe you could let others see what didnt work for you so it may not work for them either. I think that you should read each post with an open mind and if you feel negativity then talk to me or whoever about it but try to look at the positives rather then the negatives. Rather you believe it or not I want to see you succeed as much as anyone on this forum,,I"m not here to fk with oxyaddict. Again,,I wont respond to your posts but feel free to pm me if you"d like to agree to disagree sometimes about anything and as always,,gl and stay determined

[hopsing94]

Hey man how are you doing. I did'nt read through this whole post but wondering if you were able to get on the sub and if so how is it working. If not how are you holding up. Get me updated. I think the 26th was the date so i've been wondering about you bro. --John

[Flutterby111]

Dude, one main thing they say in NA is that we are powerless to our addiction...and you seem to realize that....and with that realization you are taking necessary steps to doing what you see fit to getting and staying clean.  Yeah, forget the B.S. here and negativity.  You do your plan.  I can tell you're commited to getting clean....you just do what YOU can....eff the rest.  Stay positive!  

[oxyaddict420]

Thanks to everyone with the nice things to say and the support.. To the others that continue to be nagative and disruptive, please just leave my posts alone, and please stop the hateful PM's.. I am trying to get positive about my recovery..

Addictedme-- I guess I dont have all the perfect answers to your questions, but I know I am going to do everything in my power to make this effort to get my life straight.  It seems you have a bleek take on"at least my recovery statements".. So if I am that confused, or that far gone then just let me be OK?  You are already making statements about if I were to fail at NA meeting, and how I should publicy post it to make sure not to offend or scare off others.. How about I just take it one step at a time and go experience a meeting for myself and you stay out of it?  

[worried878]

I was searching my brain but dont remember the negative stuff people said to you on the board so I am guessing it was thru PMs...you have always been positive toward me in your posts and I wish you the best of luck with whatever you decide to do...You know I could feel it in my bones this time too.....sometimes it is just time to let go...and it is easier then...I have even found that to be true in other life situations/for instance a bad relationship that I hang onto then one day your done and it is easy to let it go...no comparison...just rambling...good luck and prayers are with you

[addictedme]

You didnt really answer my question and I"m having trouble finding all the negativity toward you,maybe your talking about pms. You do sound determined and the counsling is a good idea but as far as na goes you stated that you plan on going to a few meetings a week,thats a great start but na has very clear suggestions on what they feel you must do to have a chance at arresting your addiction and just going to a few meetings a week isnt one of them. Staying clean thru na is soo much more then just going to a few meetings a week. The 1st suggestion you"ll get is 90 meetings in 90 days,Its entirely possible that after a few meetings you"ll understand a little more and take the suggestions but if you dont work the program AS SUGGESTED,then plz say that you didnt feel the program was for you rather then saying the program didnt work for you.gl to ya

[CarissaLou]

TODAY IS MY FIFTH DAY ON THE SUBOXONE AND IM DOING OK. I WAS DEPRESSED YESTERDAY. TODAY I AM A LIL BETTER. I TALKED TO MY DOC AND HE SAID WE COULD GO DOWN 1 ML A WEEK. IM SUPPOSE TO BE ON 10ML RIGHT NOW BUT I ONLY HAVE BEE N TAKING 6-8. I THIN KTHE REASON I AHVE BEEN HOLDING BACK IS BECAUSE IM NERVOUS ABOUT DETOX IN LIKE 4 MONTHS. BUT I HAVE TO STOP WORRYING ABOUT THAT AND WORRY ABOUT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. LIVE FOR TODAY RIGHT!!!

[CarissaLou]

HEY SO WHATS YOUR STORY, IM NEW AND SAW YOUR PROFILE.

[Penelope14]

In my life, I notice the people who try to take me down & who are negative are always the ones who are unhappy in their own skin, & I agree, if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all!  But also on this forum or any other forum, its very easy to misunderstand what someone may be trying to express, as we are not all face to face nor is their any verbal communication, & not everyones gonna agree with you, or even myself, & thats ok, its what you know thats important. I,ll tell you a little something about me, the reason I got onto methadone was for my addiction to oxys, prior to the oxys I was a fun loving girl, sure Id have a drink once in a while, but that was it! Till I met someone with a large, large, amount of oxys, he would get monthly amounts that would blow me away, we had hundreds of green 80s everywhere, they were never ending, or so I thought, as time goes by you start requiring more & more, so running out was a issue that would come about around once a week, & it was hell! Their wasnt much I wouldnt have done to get more, your integrity as a woman gets tested & all morals are gone out the window, as the man I got the oxys from was not my hubby, I think you get the idea? At any rate, I havent touched oxys for 4 years & never will, & I say sub is a great idea, I only wish It were around 4 years ago when I was doing everything in my power to get off of them. Good Luck Penelope

[bmc1976]

Just ignore the negative and take in the positive. There are always gonna be some comments that come across wrong. It can be hard to express ourselves with a keyboard. When talking to someone in person you know how to take something because of the tone of their voice. Whenever I read a post and I take it as a negative I read it again trying to see the other side. It truly does help at times. Best of luck at your sub appointment. Please keep posting and keep us informed on how you are doing. After reading most of your posts I'm almost excited as you are to see how well the sub program is going to work for you!!!!! Have a great weekend and look forward to hearing from you again!

[oxyaddict420]

Wow, thanks so much for sharing your story and opinions here.  Also sorry to those people that have posted to me and I have not responded.  Thispost is an older one, and it hasnt gotten any new posts in over two months until just about 8 hours ago.. Also, I have not been on here as much for good reasons.. When I first found this site it was like a miracle and it seemed to be a godsend.. I needed so much of the info I found and to just be able to get honest(REAL HONEST) about everything to people that understood and that had been there.. Over time on this site new people come and go and it seems to be the same thing just over and over again.  Also, I think I have gotten most everything I am going to get from this site already. Now it is just to the point where there is so much negativity toward me and my recovery attemtps that it is just unhealthy!

I have made some great friends and also learned some great info about myself and my addiction as well.  Now  I have the suboxone appointment for march 11th(because my feb 26th once got cancelled), also I went to my first addiction counseling appointment(one-on-ones 1 time per week), and will be attentding NA meetings (a few times per week), and also will be attending group meeting that are FREE due to me being a patient of the clinic now!  So I have many tools to use and apply to getting better and managing my addiction.. To answer the question about really wanting to be on suboxone long term, YES, since my #1 priority is to LIVE and get my life back in order. It is so bad and out of wack that it will take major stucture that I cannot provide without these tools!. So after I can get back on track and work out some issues then it will be the sub for me.. And I am fine with that!

As for the question about getting clean 30-40 times.. These were all failed attempts at staying clean. Yes i went through full c/t w/d that many times or more, but it never lasted. Some times I would last months, but others mostly weeks or even days.. Having major chronic daily pain was a reason that I would cave in alot, plus the fact of just plain craving the buzz, and the feelings of numbness!  So there never has been a real success story YET!  But I feel it in my bones that this is my time to make it work!  I have all the tools lined up and access to them, and I will use every damn one of them to make it WORK!

[oxyaddict420]

Thanks for posting man.. The have cancelled my suboxone aoopintment at the last second to march 11th so I am screwed once again by DR's but at last there is some point where I will get on it(I PREY)!!  I also am going to be attending NA meetings a few times per week, and then also have addiction counseling set up once per week for one on ones.. Then group type meeting as well with the couseler.. So the suboxone is just 1 tool amoung others to help combat this horrible addiction!

[Marc423]

I was on OxyContin for 3 years, I actually reached a level of 12 40mg per day due to back pain from wrecks.  I have 3 Vertebra fused.  Anyway, as my tolerence increased my Doctor just kept upping my monthly meds.
Anyway, my Doctor got busted by the DEA for prescribing so many narcotics.  I went to a Detox and Rehab for 28 days.  At the Rehab they put me on Subetex, and due to the Chronic Pain issues I am still on it.  It helped with the opium withdrawal right away, the part I couldn't stand was the restless legs.  It was all gone.  I have stayed clean now for 6 months, went to N/A at first and then switched to AA which suits my schedule better.  The 12 step program has been around a long time but it really works and I look forward to going to meetings.  Anyway, this is my 2 cents worth and I take a lot of Ibuprofin.