Oh and the rocksalt is for sure meth that is exactly what it looks like and that is what is smoked out of a pipe
It is black tar heroin what you found. They put it into pill bottles with change usually a quarter nickel dime and a penny but honestly could be any combination of those with a little bit of baking powder or lactose or any sort of a powder then shake it up very hard until it becomes a snortable type substance. once that combination hits the moisture in the air it becomes a nasty residue which is what is on those coins. The little black specs or what happens to black tar once it's there without being mixed with the powder. They look like little perfectly round shiny black dots. You are lucky that you caught him while he still snorting/smoking. I would say best to rip the Band-Aid off now and do both yourselves a favor and don't start him on subs or methadone as even though the wds may be less intense I found that after a month and a half I was still feeling the cold sweats back pain and not able to sleep. So because of this of course I ended up relapsing doing heroin for another year and then finally I got on a plane to California to visit my sister for a month where I knew no one had no money and no means to go about finding anything. It forced me to get clean and after going through that kind of sickness I never wanted to experience it again and I've been clean ever since. (Mine never progressed to shooting but I did it for ~4 years and thank god because even that gave me 3 weeks of wd symptoms too gross and painful to even begin to describe)
Source: personal experience
I would say that a VERY easy way to tell is to go to your local Drugstore (like Rite Aid ) and there is a very accurate home drug test - all he does if give a urine sample - much like a pregnamcy test - and it either will or will not show positive. There is also a test for cocaine. NOW, if he balks and refuses the test - I believe thats a good indication he has something to hide.
Or, make a private appointment with his Dr. and tell him he is needed to go in for a CBC (Comlete Blood Count Test), you don't need to tell him that it is really a drug test- and get him in right away - Cocaine does not stay in the body more that 3 to 4 days, heroin and opiates up to a week so I would get this done now, it's way easier than trying to "figure it out" (what the substances are) by looking on the internet.
Marijuana is stored in fat cells, so that stays in the system from 21-45 days, depending on usage. YES, I know this for a fact, I used to be a medical assistant at 2 medical clinics. The important thing is to do this quickly, before the "proof" in the body is gone.
Much luck - I have a son who will be turning 14 in a month, and I also worry. Write back to me if you can: ***@****
Coins are sometimes used to put cocaine into lines if you don't have a credit card or something on you. Sometimes it ends up tarnishing the coins, and the dirt sticks to the residue left on there.
The green liquid could be methadone, known as "The Green Syrup". It is an opiate which is used to help heroin addicts come off heroin, but recently was seen more as a street drug, with many addicts selling on their methadone for very low prices.
Heroin and Crack are often used together, one used to prevent feeling the comedown of another.
If your son is taking Methamphetemines (Speed) or Cocaine/Crack then he may seem restless, sleepless, agitated, more angry, euphoric and may speak quickly and gesticulate. Some physical signs of use would be dilated pupils, glassy eyes, quickened speech and - if coke - excessively licking his lips or mushing his lips together (which is caused because coke numbs your mouth, and sometimes makes it a bit tingly). He may also become paranoid.
With Heroin watch out for "pinprick pupils", slurred or unclear speech, nodding off (this is often clearest with teenage addicts at the dinner table as it can sometimes be almost the only place you see them). He would seem more drowsy. They can often get cramps when they next need a hit, my friend's were always in the morning in her legs. You may notice scabs that don't seem to heal, because heroin makes you itchy and so many users scratch at themselves without giving the scabs a real chance to close over and heal.
I would say it may be easier to determine the drug from his appearance rather than the drugs. Many drugs look similar, and if he is doing drugs then it may be more than one. Heroin ranges from white powder (when pure) through tan to a darker brown colour. The powder can sometimes look rocky. Cocaine is white powder which is usually snorted, freebase/crack cocaine is generally smoked. Crack "rocks" are (imo) roughly the size of a small peanut.
My heart goes out to you and I hope this might help a little.
I HAVE FOUND A GLASS TABLE TOP W/SOME LITE GREEN STUFF (LIQUID-ISH)THAT HAS BEEN IN A CLOSET...AND ANOTHER FOIL?????
IM SO DISTROUGHT IM LOOSING MY ******* MIND/THIS IS MY BEAUTIFUL 1ST BORN....
Can you get hash where you live? It's not plain old cannabis is it?
sorry about the spelling my youngest son keeps coming in and asking questions and hence the type errors. sorry all. Another thing would he be open to an honset talk or have you tried that. I so hope you manage to cet this sorted a least a bit. the drug thing is as bad as people say. It is so hard to stop everyone thinks they are different and won't get addicted. I think the right help- someone that he can relate to maybe an x attict who knows a lot more than him and has done time even. I wonder if a local drug centre could put you in touch with someone who may want to help those in trouble.
I am from new zealand and wondered if your son had done other drugs before this. what does he say the stuff is that you found? does he think he has things under control? how old is he again? whwen you smoke herion it leaves a black streak on tin foil, bottle tops can br used to mix drugs for injection, are there any marks on his arms?does he weat long sleeved tops? in terms of using meth or herion what are his pupils doing, this is a very good indication of what drug a person is abusing. How is his personal habbits and does he seem moody, different druds have different withdrawl symptoms.
did you find out what is going on with your son. I wondered if he was smocking Heroin
Ok I am back. I am trying to find something on the coins but am not coming up with anything. You said that there was a green and black substance on them? Well I know that when a penny gets wet the copper turns green, do you think that maybe something got spilt on the coins and it could just be gunk? Like for instance sometimes change gets dumped in the console of my car and then pop or something gets spilt on it and it turns the pennies green and the other coins have a black gunk type of stuff on it. I will keep looking for a relationship between the drugs and coins though.
thx soo much sista,s i appreciate al ur work..still confused re coins?????maybe somene could cross reference w/ another oldtymer here 4 the facts..must p.u. young son at his school..believe me...i will check back 4 any ting that could help...by the way..he stole all my methadone b-4 xmas (took 20 mgs dily)and i too am w/drawing...anyone know what i can do to help w/my rls,and sleeplessness anxiety etc..its taken for yrs after a botched surgoury.l&l,tanggitl
Yeah..I never had the guts to try any of that stuff. GUess I should be thankful for that!
I too am going to go make a bite to eat and maybe a little nap if I can. I am soooo tired.
I will be back on later though. Hope you get some rest too amythist!
And tang..hang in there hun. Keep us posted as to what you find out.
Hope to see you all later.
Hey guys and gals. I will be back in a few mins. I am starving so Im gonna go grab some grub. BRB though to help.
Hey no problem. I absolutely hate meth and coke, it ruins families and lives. Well any drug for that matter I guess. I told you about my experience with my ex and meth last night remember. Its bad bad bad stuff, and most people get hooked on it the first time they try it. I guess I am lucky. I dont have the addictive personality. Thank god!!!
Here check this site out. It shows the spoon and needle I was talking about with heroin.
http://www.teenhealthcentre.com/articles/publish/article_133.shtml
Wow....I sure hope she gets all the pieces together. Thanks for helping amythist!!!
There ya go vic. That last link you put up there. See how the foil is U shaped and the pen is in the mouth sucking the smoke up into the lungs. This is one way to smoke meth or coke.
ANother pic here which looks to be foil rolled up some, assume that is what they are cooking it on and then of course what they are inhaling from.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1765000/images/_1768035_heroin150.jpg
These "rolly pieces" do they look like this?
http://www.kankakeecountysheriff.com/kamegphotos/heroineSmall.jpg
WAIT...you found a bottle cap with black sticky residue in it? Like tar? If so then I would guess that as being heroin. They melt it down in the bottle cap and then inject it into their body. Sometimes they will use a spoon too to melt it down. In otherwords he may be shooting up. That is NOT good. Maybe you should take a look at his arms see if he has needle marks.
Is there anywhere you can call near you..like a drug center to possibly find out what it could be?
well i do suspect meth or crak but of the other little tarrish lookin stuff ...im going crazy..bottle caps, pieces of incredibly small folded bindles,opium?heroin?fyntynal?and how would a teen use it?he has so many coins some w/a greenish dried liquid residue and others w/brwn sticky pieces on it????i think he heated on stove elements cuz junk has been burnin off periodically....yukk!
So do you think then he is experimenting on making it himself also?