mother of teen boy suspects heroin,opium and more..what am i finding?????

[tanggirl1]

i have recently just gotten my 15 yr old back from wildeness therapy camp and in less than 1 mo..he is into something i dont recognise.i know he did the orange oxy,i found little stonish looking things og varying color and hardness,some foil used in oven,baking pans covered w/little hard black substances,teenie bindles w/white uniform little rolly peices ,as well as white rock,ans black rock and peices that look like rock salt(that r not)pens w/ no midlles,bottle caps,tons and tons of quarters...some w/tarish junk (bits on them) and little straw wrappers all squised up and stashed in various places..what is it and what now.ive got him up mtn w/ his dad so hisfriends cant reach him w/ ease...but i need major help w/identity please,as i need to make some break from the torment living in this life of fear.i do love him incredibly,but also have a 1o yr old that i dont want xposed to these dangers...please help asap.lov n lite ,tanggirl

[vicaddict]

Hey hun..I am not certian what all of that is....but I am sure it's something no good. I am sure someone will post soon that will be able to indentify more what it is he may be using.

Try and hang tight here for a little while, as I said I am sure someone will respond. I hate to say what I think it could be, because I could be way off and it may be various of things too.

Sit tight here, and keep refreshing the page. Someone is bound to respond soon!!

Hope you figure this out hun!!

Thoughts are with you.

[tanggirl1]

thankyou 4 ur post,will sit tight ...i am tormented by this...any help or direction to explicit info is appreciated.luv n lite ,tanggirl

[bugsy89734]

Hi hun,,sounds like a homemade crack pipe?/?,,also he could be doing crystal meth or cocaine,,,anyways, all that material leads up to no good,,,I give you my strength because this won't be fun,,,,something is troubling your son????? find the root before attempting to fix the surface,,,,,step cautiosly,,this time in his life is crucial,,,,I have my own demons!!!!good luck,,,bugzy

[vicaddict]

I researched a little on the net..but not sure with everything you listed what it all may be like I said.

I looked up "crack" it gives me this: Crack looks like white or slightly yellowish rocks. ALso with a picture. Look like little salt rocks like you described. But may not be the case.

You can go to yahoo.com..and there is a search box where you can type in an image search. Type in the box a word/s that you are looking for, then click on "images" above the box.  You could try that, while you await a response.

Do let me know what you find, I will be on here for a bit.

Wish I was of more help!!

[vicaddict]

http://www.stopdrugs.org/crack.html  

copy and paste that in your browser once, or type it. See if any of that looks familiar hun. browser is where you type in web addy. ( If you already knew that I apologize! )

I will keep looking also.

[vicaddict]

You said he just got out of some camp? Was that for drug abuse? If so, is it possible this stuff was from before, or are you certain it is new?

Just thought I would ask.

[amythist2779]

Where abouts do you live? In the US? What state?

[vicaddict]

Good Morning Am...how are you this morning? I am verry tired. lol.

[amythist2779]

Oh Vicad I am so worn out. I still havent been able to get to sleep. Do you know if tang is still on? Depending on where she is located I think I know what her son is on.

[vicaddict]

Hi hun...I am not sure..I asked her to wait around a little, and she said she would. So far nothing new yet from the responses I sent to her.

I hope she is still here. Maybe is looking through the link I sent her too.

Aww hun..I am so sorry to hear you still have yet to sleep!!! You better try and get some rest soon hun!

[amythist2779]

Ive tried, its useless right now. My back is bothering me too bad. Im sitting here in bed though on the laptop and my dog is sleeping next to me. We just go him about 2 months ago, hes a great dane pup, probably 3 months old or so. He is the funniest thing, when he sleeps he snores...lllllooooouuuuuddddd...lol. He also must dream something aweful because he is always kicking is feet when he sleeps and he sleeps on his back with his paws shooting straight up in the sky. Its quite a sight..lol.

[vicaddict]

Yup Yup...that is the puppy thing. It is comical isn't it? Legs spread all the way...flat on thier backs, as if airing out LOL.

And yes the dreaming...kick kick..wimper wimper...LOL. And yes mine snores loud also!

I have 2 labs..one is almost 8 yrs, and my other is a yellow who just turned a year. he was abandoned so I took him in. Boy just like the good ol days raising a baby!! He is all trained and everything now, but still has his moments if left alone!!! Or even sometimes if I am too busy on here, he gets into something just like he knows I am not paying attention. LOL.

But they are adorable aren't they? And it is so comforting when they cuddle all up with you. My 8yr old Black is really small..this yellow was already 68lbs at 6 mons. So you can figure how much of a lapdog he tries to be! He also HAS got to have a pillow!!!! He will climb up by one of us and sit right on our heads, as if he belongs there!! I make him have his own pillow now LOL. Need a football helmet when we go to bed, never know when we will wake up with 2 black eyes!!

[tanggirl1]

yes oked at link u sent il try to be more specific..
o.k the little rocks range from golden,dk.brown,and white..think u r right(prob. crack)but the junk that is obviosly been heated and (smoked?)looks like smaller than pinky nail and hardened tarish stuff...now...it was seen in my oven(prob. 2 high 2 cover his trax)on baking sheet as lil black hard blobs (maybe to heat and inhale..his eyes were so pinned 1 day(xmas eve)that i told him 2 go 2 bed while i got 2 bottom of this...stil tryin>he is the tpe to deny all,unless i have all evidence of findings,so he has no where to turn.the quartrs have residue on them????and he must have spied something in my car because i found sticky dk stuff under the armrest(he really must have wanted it,he tried to dissassemble the ara to no avail.cant find anything that would tel me "yes,the coins r used 4 this...and the dark stuff is....)frusration....all help invited please

[amythist2779]

Well I think you must have left for awhile. According to your first initial post in my opinion what you have found sounds like meth or crack cocaine. You said you were missing some foil and the shells of pens. A person who smokes meth can do so off of foil and they suck the smoke up through the straw. Have you found any of the foils? If you do they will probably be in a rectangular shape folded in half or bent into a U shape. This is how they can smoke it. They run it up and down the foil. If you happen to find one of those pens hold it up to the light and you will see what seems to be crystals inside of it. This is the meth or crack that sticks to the pen when they suck the smoke through the pen. If it is meth or crack you need to get a handle on it right away. I am talking from experience. My ex was hooked on it, still is actually. He got to the point to where he had to do more and more of it to get the high. Well he got tired of buying it so he learned how to make it. Needless to say he did get caught with a meth lab and went to jail.

How has your son been acting? If its meth he will not be eating or sleeping. It wires you so that you can stay awake for days upon days without sleep or food. Most people on meth do not take care of themselves either. They let their personal hygene go down the tubes. These are just some things to look at.

[tanggirl1]

sorry,boulder colorado..big shitty drug area in disquise.and no he hadnt anytng like this b4 i took him 2 camp...he did coke and ranaway,when he returned the truck was packed and off i went w/ him...lots of $ for a more progressive situation now!!!!!!

[vicaddict]

Ikes hun. Did you read amythists post to you? Sounds like she may be of more help.

I like I said don;t know anything really about any of that meth, I have seen crack just never done it, etc.

But I am sure before the day is done we will all know what he is into hun. Don't fret.

[vicaddict]

Rephrase:
"Try not to fret" We will get this figured out. Your definately in the right place.

[amythist2779]

See thats what I was wondering. I am in Iowa and that is the big time drug here right now. Seems like everyone is doing it. Well the government is making it harder for people to make by putting psudoephadrine behind the counters. That only helps so much though because now they are bringing it up from mexico, and I imagine Colorado is right there in the path. I am willing to be its either meth or coke. When my ex made his meth it turned out different colors. I know one time it turned out to be purple and another time green and when its colors like that I guess its more potent.

[vicaddict]

So do you think then he is experimenting on making it himself also?

[tanggirl1]

well i do suspect meth or crak but of the other little tarrish lookin stuff ...im going crazy..bottle caps, pieces of incredibly small folded bindles,opium?heroin?fyntynal?and how would a teen use it?he has so many coins some w/a greenish dried liquid residue and others w/brwn sticky pieces on it????i think he heated on stove elements cuz junk has been burnin off periodically....yukk!

[vicaddict]

Is there anywhere you can call near you..like a drug center to possibly find out what it could be?

[amythist2779]

WAIT...you found a bottle cap with black sticky residue in it? Like tar? If so then I would guess that as being heroin. They melt it down in the bottle cap and then inject it into their body. Sometimes they will use a spoon too to melt it down. In otherwords he may be shooting up. That is NOT good. Maybe you should take a look at his arms see if he has needle marks.

[vicaddict]

These "rolly pieces" do they look like this?

http://www.kankakeecountysheriff.com/kamegphotos/heroineSmall.jpg

[vicaddict]

ANother pic here which looks to be foil rolled up some, assume that is what they are cooking it on  and then of course what they are inhaling from.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1765000/images/_1768035_heroin150.jpg