Im on this form for help not to fight

[johnnykelly]

Hello All,Like i stated in my title i need peace not war.There was a situation a week or so regarding a medical procedure that was done by a caring mother to try to help the son she loves.I responded to the post possibly in what may of been a harse manner,and for that (I TRULY APOLOGIZE) especially taking the discussion from an intellectual point of disagreement,to personal attacks.I am here to say Principals before personalities.The other side of the coin,was also,And I dont Mean THE MOTHER,but 2 of her Female supporters also did the same thing as me WE all went from being helpful to telling each other to go F-each other, And that was the nice part.To the two ladies in particular i apologize for the personal insults i directed towards you,and I hope the feeling is reciprocated.Remember i am not perfect and make spontanious off the top of my head remarks at times.I spoke to a number of fellow forum members privately and most agreed with the fact Suboxone should be administered under the care of a dr.,but none agreed that i was the one to deside that,and they are right.One question i have though is why,just because a fellow member doesant agree with something,Why does it have to GET SO PERSONAL,TO THE POINT OF HURTING EACH OTHERS FEELINGS>I said in an earlier post that IM leaving ands that was not what i want to DO,but if i did IN THE general consensus of the group as a whole something that was irrepairable i will go. Please advise me,as im in not a very good emotional state,as I handled the arguments by getting wrecked on cocaine and spending every cent i have and now i feel terrible. thank-you john

[worried878]

I think sometimes if I am a certain mood I will refrain from posting...I will just read....Also when I see that posts are getting out of hand...I withdraw from any further comments on that post..we are not here to get upset..or at least I am not..keep posting

[newmanagment]

we are addicts, not saints. we will disagree over issues, because we are human. we will fight , because of pride. but to leave , and use again, is not an option. i was "lurking" when thatpost happened , but it did get way out of hand. like worried said, i  quit following it.  im sorry to hear about your set back, but use it to realize that you may have issues with being hurt by others that make you use. i think your apology was well thought out and heartfelt, so maybe the ladies you made angry will too. best of luck, get back up and lets keep ya moving forward.

[flmagi]

It was the PM you sent me that was really nasty and uncalled for. My response to you was nasty in return. At that point I decided to ignore your other Vulgar PMs to me, but you continued to be nasty on the open forum. I am willing to call a truce, as it is not my nature to engage in verbal combat with anyone, but Iam human and do not like being viciously attacked. I was told of your emotional state last night and was going to send you a PM, but I wasn't sure if it would just antagonize you.
Again, I'm more than willing to call a truce. Lets just let bygones be bygones and move on with things. I'm sorry that all of this has caused you such distress.
Magi

[newmanagment]

magi- you are an awesome person to accept an apology and offer condolances!! im have no clue about the hole issue, but i know that it takes alot of heart to be as awesome as you, hopefully some day i will be soo big...

[cathy5841]

johnny we all have our days.  i too refrain from posting when i see a post getting outta hand.  maybe you should adopt that policy.  i definatley think you should come beack to the forum.  i am very sorry about your set back...and that is just what it is a setback.  now pick up and dust yourself off.  get moving forward.  do not let this take you out off the path to recovery.  you can do this.  just start learning your triggers and avoiding or dealing with them, whichever works for you.  welcome back to the forum.  we are here for you.
cathy

[toxictome]

Remember,,,there  is  a continuum of personalities here...from one end of the spectrum to the other, and all points in between.  We ARE going to disagree, but i think it can be done in a respectful way...then" take what you need and leave the rest". We are all here for the same reason..TO GET FREE OF DRUGS>>>that's keep that first and foremost..

all the DIFFERENT perspectives are what make this place WORK!!!!

~HUGS to all~   :D.

[hopsing94]

oh magi you are so full of it!

[worried878]

sounds like evryone is in agreement....come on back and join us...I find this so helpful and obviously you do too.....whenever you get any group of people together/conflict can happen...then you take a group like this...lots of us are not on our best behavior at this point...I am not even aware of what transpired and am sure most on here are not...dont even want to know....keep posting

[flmagi]

You are being sarcastic, right?  Right?

[worried878]

lol

[hopsing94]

yes I am,just being my crazy,goofy self. Your still full of it though but you know I love ya.

[FAITHFUL74]

I too at one point engaged in myself into a conversation that got totally out of hand (not the one your speaking of ) and I was part of it. I felt horrible afterwards... I agree with the others, if in doubt that you have nothing positive to say... say nothing! I have to do this myself. There will be posts that will anger you to no end, if you feel like you are angered by the post, move past it and get to one that you feel can help you or you could help someone else...

Best of Luck!!!

[allaboutmary]

Apology accepted and I also apologize for my responce to you.  Bottom line we are all here to help one another.  Some give tuff love, some use a soft approach and together it all works.  I truley hope you get back on track and I hope we all can help you with that.
Mary

Hopsing......you always know how to lighten the mood.  LMAO

[GoingToMakeIt]

I am glad to see you make amends here. I was sad when I thought that you would not still be here. Good man for reconciling! It is so good to see you back.
We need you here.

[feohmoon]

Sorry to hear about your setback...I realize how bad you feel regarding money, cocaine, etc.  That is tough, I have had to feel like that myself.  I guess most of us have,  It was a small setback, no permanent damage this time...just stay strong and keep going....this forum does help.  I would hate to lose everyones support and I am sure that is not in your best interest either at this point.
Good to see all the mature reconciliation.  We are very impressed that this forum is so great overall -

[Lotsatrout]

I can feel the love here.........  :)

[flmagi]

Johnny and I have PM'd each other and are fine now. We will concider each other friends.

[gizzy32]

wow, i think you taught us all something here guys. glad to hear this, amazing

[worried878]

warm all over!    great

[Flutterby111]

I feel the love too!!!!!  :)  Sorry JOhnny, I kinda stuck my nose in at the tail end....but I noticed my comment wasw deleted/reported....but I don't think it was harsh or mean..anyways, glad you're back....whoever said pick yourself up and dust yourself off was right!  We're all here for the same reason...to get clean off of dope.  I'm sorry it hit you so hard...that sucks.  

[Flutterby111]

For the record, I'm not in a good state of mind either....yikes.  So, let's just try to keep our heads above water....

[toxictome]

You just did a 9th step!!!   LOL

See...it works if you work it!!!  :D

[Bossman80]

.....you know what they say about those crazy Canadians...lol   j/j.  Keep your head up Johnny.  

[johnnykelly]

WOW how Ironic. In Real life i never went there,but my hihher power ,in this case (the GROUP?FORUM) through) Possible that GOD GUY?GAL? paved the way.Boy i feel better, BROKE but Emotionally better.Thanks to Magi MY FORMER WORRIER PRINCESS.LOL I AM GLAD reading that we are friends,I feel the same way.ALSO MARY, TOXITOME,FLUTTERBY,WORRIED,MY BRO GIZZY,LOTATROUT,FOAHMOON,GOINGTOMAKEIT,ALLABOUTMARY,FAITHFUL,AND MY BRO HOPSING FOR COMIC RELIEF,THE CARING AND CONSIDERATE CATHY,AND ESPECIALLY WHAT I NEED SOME NEWMANAGEMENT,COOL handle,SO since everyone was so nice ill put that deprssion on hold for now. Thanks All john kelly