percoset and/or alcohol

[Julie]

I have just discovered the fact that my 17 yr old teen recently tried percoset.  I know it is his intention to take the drug again and in conjunction w/ alcohol.  He is not aware that I know.  How long does the drug stay in one's system?  Can we, as parents, buy a drug test to randomly give him?  How dangerous is this drug?  How can we tell if he is under the influence?

[Nene]

Hi, I am a new writer here but ilike hearing about your situations.  It is April now, where are you two?

[BHepburn]

well i have tried percs and i love them, but the effects vary, i dont consider myself an addict at all, i have only done them like 5 times, and tonight i will try an OC 40 for the first time, does anyone know the differences between the two?

[Linda]

I have been on percoset for nearly 4 years now. I don't seem to be addicted. I had vascolitis(layman's terms) the real medical name for it is polyarthritis nodosa. It attacks the veins and the lungs and the brain. I have had a stroke and foot drop. so needless to say I was given percoset for the pain. I also have osteoporosis and have had many broken bones. I am not sure if I have become addicted to this drug. I have read all the others here and I am not like that. I don't feel a high when I take the pill. I do get some relief after I have taken it. I will hopefully be able to not have to take it any more, but I don't think that day will come. Only when I die. I pray for all those who have become addicted to this drug.For the pain it is a good pain reliever. I don't use alcohol ..god bless all of you. linda

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Percodan, I think is stronger than Vics ES.  Am I incorrect?  How many per day?  At what intervals?  Gotta run feed the babe.  Neena

[From John B. to all]

I am taking percodan.
Goodnight

[To sick and scared from Neena]

All I know is that I need to stop at least 4 to 5 days before the doctor's appt. on the 26th.  I would cancel and reschedule, but since I am actually having female problems and now my hubby is concerned, I have to keep this one, so it looks like next week is the big week.  I don't have a calendar in front of me, but tomorrow I'll be back on in the am.  Tomorrow is my hubbys 49th birthday.  I'll try to get back and we'll set days/times/intervals, etc...I forget...you are taking Percs?  or Vics?  Let me know.   I am going to rest for now.  You are not a dreamer.  Anyway, if we did not have dreams, what would we have?  We can do this.  We have about the same amount of pills, I just have to cut off much faster than you.  Oh, well, we will work it out.  Nighty night.  Sleep well, and God Bless, Neena

[From John B. to all]

Sure lets give it a try. It is 9:00 here now and my wife is in and out of my offic now so I can't talk but I will write as soon as I can. How long do you have till the 4 four days start? I have 20 pills and then I will have to go about four weeks. Unless I can think of somthing befor then. But I will be glad to try to do this together and stay off. Maybe I am just a dreamer.

I will write back maybe later. I always stay up the latest in this house.
          John B.

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Nice to hear from you.  I was worried.  Boy, you ate alot of pills while on vacation.  No withdrawals?  I picked up ten more today.  I have to taper now, because I have a OB/GYN appt on the 26th and need to be clean.  I have endometriosis and well...lots of female problems that I'm sure you don't care to hear about, so I need to be clean and sober when I go in, because I am having some problems, ie...irregular bleeding, etc...I am terrified, as this means another surgery, possibly hysterectomy, which I am not ready to consider at this point.  My doc knows nothing of the addiction, but I will have to spill it.  My husband found a lump on my lower back that is painful also, so now he is worried about all of it too.  I won't be able to get any codiene...if I do, my hubby will have to give them to me.  I am not in that much pain, but have access to Vics. ES so I am not suffering.  I want to start tapering right now, with the 10 or 15 that I have right now.  Do you want to do it with me?  I have to be clean at least 4 days before my appt.  Let me know.  God Bless, Neena

[From John B. to all]

How are you? It has been a while. I am no diferent. Still on the pills I went through 300 pills in one month. When I ran out in the Bahamas I bought some 222s. Which is some over the counter pain pills that have a bit of codiene in them. They have such a small amount that I have to take 4 at a time to get any results and you end up feeling very dissy because of all the caffeine and other junk they have in them. But they do the trick pretty good. They also have them in Canada. They make you sign for them and you cant take them over the border (leagaly). I went for two days without any pills and brased myself for the worse, but I felt no withdrawl. I was planing on staying off of them till Feb for my next DR. App. But I called for a refill. He only gave me 30 this time I think it was too soon to ask for more. Now it will take me many visits befor I can build back up to my usual 50 tabs. What a life. I spend too much time thinking about this. I am glad I don't like to drink offten. I know I would abuse that two. I drink from time to time but only very seldom enjoy the effect it has on me.Please let me know how you are doing.

         John B.

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Did much better today.  Got really sick last night, too many pills, beer, etc...Very nauseated but have Phenergan without codiene for that so slept well and woke will no withdrawals.  Must have gone at least 15 hours without anything.  Trying to step down from here.  Feel better, but not where i need to be.  Hope you are not being hard on yourself.  It only makes things worse.  I found that most of it is in my head.  Well, at least alot of it.  Because I got instant high from pill yesterday.  Not possible, so I know in my head that I just had to make sure it was there, ya know?  Neena

[From John B. to all]

Hi:
  Don't be too hard on yourself. I have not been very good on this whole trip. It is late about 11:30 here, but if you are still up tell me what has been going on with you. and then I will tell you what happend to me. I am very down on myself right now so I don't know if I can be much help but maybe we can help eachother. That what this is all about.

      John B.

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Welcome back.  We need to talk about relapse.  It's almost baby's bedtime so, I may just go away for the night...I am very angry with myself presently.  Sorry to be such a downer as soon as you walk in the door.  I'll try to stay up as late as possible.  Neena

[From John B. to all]

Hi Neena I am back. I just walked in the door so I will write back very soon.

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Sounds great to me.  I need to "chat" about life in general.  At some point we need to trade emails without everyone else getting them.  Let's figure it out.  Neena

[From Aunt Lindy to Mariah]

Just got back from Miami! It was really cold there can you believe that!  I want to talk about the step kids and everything else.  Why dont we set up a mutual day and time and hit the "chat" button already and talk! Rather than just writing a paragraph or two lets talk live.  What do you think! Lets do it lady!
XO Marcie.

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Hi yall.  John, you back yet from your trip?  Outa pills yet?  Marci, where are you?  Could use a chat right about now.  Step children outa control and I came upon some more pills.  I'd like to flush them.  Need help.  Neena

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Well, sorry it took so long to get back.  Today was hectic.  Had to get dog xrayed and do some last minute Christmas stuff and the xray results were not good.  Since I put my 12 year old German Shepherd down in June, basically when my life began to fall apart, in the interim I bought another Shepherd.  She has been nothing but a pain, especially during my detox.  I sent her to be trained and come to find out, she has a congenital tendon disease which may leave her lame OR NOT.  That's the thing.  No one can tell me what will happen.  Well, she is home and it makes me feel better just having her in the yard.  It hurts though, to watch another dog suffer.  When I lost Aspen, was when I went down hill in the pills, out of control.  As you might have read, I detoxed totally.  Since then I've taken pills in small amounts and have controlled them totally.  When I feel stress, like today, I take them and that scares me to death.  My investment in my animals is HUGE, both financially and EMOTIONALLY.  Actually I only have about ten pills left, so I really can't get into trouble.  I am pissed at myself for even taking one of them, but my depression and "baggage" and I've got lot's of it, really brings me down.  As we know, the pill can help pull us out of the dulldrums for awhile, while relieving menstrual cramps.  I AM TERRIFIED OF SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL AGAIN. I miss my Aspen horribly and now my present dog is growing on me.  She ws to be a show dog, with both parents, Champions, now she is or may be crippled.  I am sad and mad at the same time.  I saved her life.  The breeder would have for sure put her down because of the disability, so that makes me care for her even more.  I'm a sucker for any animal.  I am a vegitarian too.  On a good note, I have gained 12lbs since my detox, so I'm back to my normal weight, even more so and am taking Centrum and lots of B12.  Hope to hear from you soon, Neena

[From Aunt Lindy to Mariah]

Okay you tell me you are going to check on the babe and the soup.  And then you leave me with "lots to tell you" and that your "backsliding"! and here I am worried about you waiting for you to let me know what is going on!  Write back soon I would like to help!
XO Marcie!

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Hey Lady!  Nice to hear from you.  I need to run and check on baby and some soup on the stove.  Be back soon.  Lot's to tell you.  I am kindof backsliding.  Help.  Talk soon. Neena

[From Aunt Lindy to Mariah]

Geesh it seem like alot is going on here in this thread.  I think I know you better now than ever! You and John B. are true buddies.  It is so nice to know that people are out there like you.  It is so great to have this inner circle of friends.  Dont you think so!
Take Care Neena,
Marcie!

[To sick and scared from Neena]

Bet I missed you.  Safe trip again.  We'll start our new lives when you get back.  Neena

[From John B. to all]

It is late here about 10:30. Yes my mother-inlaw lives with u s. we bought a house big enouph for all of us. She stays down stairs and we live up. She is very hard to deal with. She tells the same stories over and over. I was thinking of a way to slip her one of my drugs for the trip(just kiding). Talk to you later the car is all packed and I am going to bed. I will check to see if you posted in the morning.

John B.

[To sick and scared from Neena]

With your Mother in Law from your home to the Carolinas?  Your a good man, no matter what.  I can't even ride with my own mom in a car across town...my husband would strangle her. he he.  Maybe the change in scenery will help.  I've never been to the Bahamas.  I bet it is beautiful, although, I prefer the mountains.  We used to own some land in Northern New Mexico, but sold it for triple the price we bought it for.  Now I wish we still owned it.  I could use a mountian to sit on, right about now.  It is not far from Los Alamos, in the Jemenez mountains.  That dream faded with many others. My hubby is an attorney and we are supposed to be "rich", but we arent'.  We have to watch every penny.  Since we've only been married about two years, I am still getting used to someone else telling me how to spend my money and I sure miss my job and having that kind of independence.  What are we escaping from?  For me it's many things.  My poor therapist knows.  But, all of that is still no excuse for drug abuse and alcohol abuse.  I need to stop drinking beer too.  I wish I could stop everything.  You're in Maine, right?  Must be late there, as it's 830 here.  What time does your trek begin tomorrow?  How long is the first day drive?  Did you have your car checked out?  he he.  I sound like my dad.  My Tahoe needs a checkup, that reminds me.  What do you drive?  I'd like to buy an old VW and rebuild it and have it to "play in".  Well, I gotta run and put Em down for the night.  I'll check back before, I go to bed.   If I don't talk to you, God Speed.  Neena

[From John B. to all]

We are going with my motherinlaw who cant fly so I am for the first time in my life going to drive. I hate even thinking about it. We will go to SC first then after a few days to FT Lauderdale and catch a flight from there to Freeport Bahamas. I know what you mean some times are harder than others. I love the time I am clean things do look better. Why is it we keep going back. Is it just an excape? Excape from what? who knows. I am sure I will have fun I love to scuba dive and I plan on doing that the hole time. So I will talk to you later. I will check this site one more time befor I go to bed. So feel free to Write.

Take care Neena: John B.