MIND CHATTER!

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So, I'm 3 or 4 weeks free of Remeron. Had a hell of a withdrawal from it. But sleep returned, not the best, but do not have to rely on drugs to fall asleep at night. I do wake up a little earlier than I want to but it's not terrible.

So when I first withdrew from Remeron, A symptom I had along with other terrible symptoms, was this crazy mind chatter. After I withdrew, this symptom slowly left.

Well the past few days, it seems like I'm having it again in my sleep mostly. It makes me feel like I'm "losing my mind", but I know that's not true. B/c people who are truly losing their mind do not acknowledge it.

When I close my eyes at night, or if I wake up in the middle of the night and try to fall back asleep, random words just started appearing in my head, like I'm reading a text message, or an email, exactly like normal mind chatter but words that were completely unrelated to anything. Just random words. I can also hear my own subconscious voice in my head reading these words.

These incidents are NOT "voices" I can tell they are my own thoughts just very random. Random imagery too.

It's exhausting, and I can not seem to flip the switch to turn it off.

My concern is that I really am starting to lose it, or that the antidepressants and benzos I've used on and off in the past have done permanent brain damage to my brain. I doubt that's true. That's just anxiety getting the best of me.

Maybe it could be a flare up of Remeron withdrawal adjustment?

Or maybe it's just my brain stressing out? lol.

Does it matter? Probably not. Just wondering if anyone else can relate.

I know fighting/fearing is the worst you can do. So I just try to chill and go with it. I can tell I'm feeling tense in bed, my neck is always stiff in the morning, and I do have weird dreams a lot.

Thanks for any input guys. I'm seeking homeophathy in ways of dealing with stress in a more natural way vs. prescription pills. I'm just done with them.

You guys are all amazing here!!! Especially little miss nursegirl. :) Thanks guys!

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Sorry I'm just now seeing this.

The mind chatter will leave. :)

It's just yet another crazy symptom of anxiety.

I have not had that in years, but now am dealing with constant muscle pains, aches, tension, knots etc... I have not been on any medications in 3 years.

I'm getting an MRI tonight. My Dr. thinks I'm wasting my $$$ and would like to see me back on a medication. I told him MEDICINE will be my LAST ROUTE.

I want to rule EVERYTHING out first.

But yes, anxiety can cause SO MANY symptoms, it wouldn't surprise me that my muscle issues are all related to anxiety/mild depression.

Hang in there.

Are you taking any medications?

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Hey!
I'm going through the same thing, I've only had anxiety for 5 weeks now so this is all new to me and I'm constantly googling! I just Googled 'weird mind chatter before falling asleep' and this post came up its totally made me feel at ease and I feel better knowing I'm not 'going crazy' & I'm not alone!!
I'm just wondering how ur getting   on now and if this has all gone away?
I look foward to hearing from u! Best wishes,
Bronya.

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Thanks again for everything Nursegirl!!! :)

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Nursegirl, YES! Overall, I am doing SO much better. I'm glad I stuck out the Remeron withdrawal. Because those adrenal surges were indeed from withdrawal. And they did diminish! So did the sweating/shakes that came with them. My heart rate also went down. :)

However, I KNOW I still need to learn to DEAL with stressors/possible triggers in my life before it ever get's to a point where "I THINK" I need to just start popping a pill. I just know me. And I know I like "instant gratification". I find it easiest to pop a pill. But I'm so med sensitive, it's just not worth it to me in the long run. I know I can do it without meds.

THANK YOU so much for clearing up that Mind Chatter IS and can be a symptom of anxiety. I do have it during the day some too. Like getting a song stuck in my head or something. Or if somebody says something like "what's up Chris?" I may repeat "what's up Chris?" in my head a couple times. It's so silly I know. But I know it's just my overactive subconscious. ANXIETY. :)

I have not started therapy yet. I was hoping the psychiatrist was going to do CBT with me. Instead he tried polly drugging me with Serequel. I walked out of there fast.

Matter of fact, speak of the Devil, his office JUST called me right now, reminding me of my next appt. in 2 weeks. I told her to cxl. She asked why. I then explained that I wanted to do CBT, but he didnt act like he wanted to, and he just wanted to give me Serequel. She said, her words "Yeah, Dr. **** typically only prescribes meds. He does not do CBT. You should probably see a Psychologist*."

She was super nice, and actually said that she'd call me back with a list of psychologists that are in my insurance network for me in the area. I thought that was really nice.

I am not taking ANY meds. **Not even at night to go to bed. :) I seem to fall asleep just fine.

Last night I did NOT have as intense mind chatter. But I did wake up periodically throughout the night it seemed. But, I'm sure I'm getting about 6-7 hours of sleep each night. Which is great.

What I'm experiencing now is this feeling of feeling stuck? Depressed feeling kind of. Feeling that I don't know how to relax. A feeling of I don't enjoy things as much. But I'm not super anxious. But maybe a little bit wired feeling. Feel like my memory is all jacked up? Some minor GI issues. Seems to be getting better. Tired most of the day. Lower appetite but still eating.

Last night I journaled before bed. Felt good. That may have helped my sleep. I also took an Epsom Salt bath last night. I think that really relaxes me too.

I still have muscle twitching ALL over. This is has been a symptom ever since quitting Ativan over 2 years ago. But I don't know what to believe. My GP Dr. think it's just BFS. Benign Fascisculation Syndrome, or something like that. He said it's more than likely just caused by stress? But it happens even at times with no stress. It just happens, daily. Muscle twitches ALL over my body.  Even my tongue. Weird. lol. Not painful though. just annoying. I don't fear it at all.

The other day, I felt kind of poor feeling... so I decided to go for a little run. I actually felt super good after the run. So that tells me that exercise is something I HAVE to keep doing! I don't do it enough. I have to hold myself accountable.

Also, I truly believe that CBT is going to be VERY beneficial if I STICK WITH IT. Atleast for 6 months to a year.

Honestly, part of me feels like I have some sort of PTSD from all this withdrawal bull crap I've experienced too in my life. But I know it's not REALLY PTSD? But I really went through the ringer a few weeks ago from that Remeron w/d. It SUCKED. Was the scariest thing I've experienced EVER. And I think one that that really bothers me, is that we have only been in our new dream home for less than 4 months, and all the memories I have so far in this new house are BAD ones it seems.

I'm ready for some GOOD times. :) We are in the process of finishing our basement. I think that is going to be great once it's finished in the next few weeks. Going to have a movie room and an arcade room. So excited. :)

Talk to  you soon! Thanks for writing! :)

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Hey buddy!  I'm glad to hear that overall you're feeling better.  It's great that you've been off the Remeron completely for 3-4 weeks.

This "chatter" is a common symptom of anxiety.  People get varying kinds of mental conversations, there are racing thoughts, intrusive thoughts, chatter, etc.  It's just more of the same...anxiety, and it's presenting itself at the time when you expect to feel anxiety (at night).  I don't think it's related to Remeron at all.

It will subside with time, just keep working to address that anxiety!  Did you start therapy yet?  Are you on ANY medications at this point?  Taking anything at bedtime?  ;0)

Hang in there!

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anyone else?

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Thanks remar. :)

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I think it's your anxiety. I know what you're talking about and I've had it happen many times when my anxiety if high.

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I've also read this is what happens when the mind is exhausted. And the best thing to do is to pay no attention to it and it will pass.

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Example of random words/thoughts: "work ethics the soup beans video". Just stupid. lol. Again, I do not hear "voices", but I do hear my own inner voice, my subconscious.