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Anything Goes!!! II
I had so much fun with this I had to share it!
Someone forwarded me a link to a "Good Christian Test".
My wife and I took it together.
My wife and I took the test together. We scored...
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Your classification is: Communist/Marxist/Socialist/Secular Humanist Worldview Thinker
Your score is: -102 points of 168 possible, -60%
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So out of a possible 100% we scored NEGATIVE 60%.
WE RULE!!!! GO LENIN!!!
I Challenge anyone to get a lower score than we did!!! :)
worldviewweekend.com/test/test.php?regid=2a0d90190a52 74da03097d1f8c0828e4&testid=
Someone forwarded me a link to a "Good Christian Test".
My wife and I took it together.
My wife and I took the test together. We scored...
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Your classification is: Communist/Marxist/Socialist/Secular Humanist Worldview Thinker
Your score is: -102 points of 168 possible, -60%
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So out of a possible 100% we scored NEGATIVE 60%.
WE RULE!!!! GO LENIN!!!
I Challenge anyone to get a lower score than we did!!! :)
worldviewweekend.com/test/test.php?regid=2a0d90190a52 74da03097d1f8c0828e4&testid=
"I'm using sprint, and my biggest complaint is every two months I get a billing dispute. either overcharges, or they tack on services I didn't request."
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I've had Sprint practically since it came into existence, I think.
I pay utilities automatically from an online account, and I don't keep track the way I should. Some years ago, I discovered Sprint had overcharged me (over time) some $700. After a lot of "conversation," they agreed to refund $400--on the basis that $400 was their "maximum refund" and they couldn't go back more than a certain amount of time for false charges, anyway.
I would have liked to have a court tell them how far they could go back, but I couldn't really gear up my office to do it for $300. Which is, of course, why it pays them to keep on doing it--people don't check, and if they do, it isn't cost effective to go after them.
And now you've reminded me that I still don't check up on them the way I should, and like you say, it's almost a foregone conclusion I've been cheated. Jerks!
[The issue, not interesting but for completeness, was that in the beginning they has an in-state long distance" amount, pretty hefty, and didn't include calls to other cities in the state in their regular long distance. At some time, they stopped charging that, but kept billing me $20 a month for it (cell charges were more in those days, but it was a lot even then). Since I can't imagine I was singled out, I suppose they just "never got around to" clicking a button on their computer system and removing that from everyone's bills, and so got millions from all the careless customers.]
Can't turn your back on the world, can you?
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I've had Sprint practically since it came into existence, I think.
I pay utilities automatically from an online account, and I don't keep track the way I should. Some years ago, I discovered Sprint had overcharged me (over time) some $700. After a lot of "conversation," they agreed to refund $400--on the basis that $400 was their "maximum refund" and they couldn't go back more than a certain amount of time for false charges, anyway.
I would have liked to have a court tell them how far they could go back, but I couldn't really gear up my office to do it for $300. Which is, of course, why it pays them to keep on doing it--people don't check, and if they do, it isn't cost effective to go after them.
And now you've reminded me that I still don't check up on them the way I should, and like you say, it's almost a foregone conclusion I've been cheated. Jerks!
[The issue, not interesting but for completeness, was that in the beginning they has an in-state long distance" amount, pretty hefty, and didn't include calls to other cities in the state in their regular long distance. At some time, they stopped charging that, but kept billing me $20 a month for it (cell charges were more in those days, but it was a lot even then). Since I can't imagine I was singled out, I suppose they just "never got around to" clicking a button on their computer system and removing that from everyone's bills, and so got millions from all the careless customers.]
Can't turn your back on the world, can you?
I took the test and I fell into the Communist/Marxist/Socialist/Secular Humanist Worldview Thinker with a -26%
I thought I was a Christian. O_o. But then again a lot of the questions seem to be slanted towards extremest opinions, like the Bible being THE ONE AND ONLY truth... I don't know about that one. When people get to thinking like that then dangerous things can happen... I guess it depends on where you take your truth from the Bible...
George w. Bush is so definately NOT the president of the US!.... lol...
I thought I was a Christian. O_o. But then again a lot of the questions seem to be slanted towards extremest opinions, like the Bible being THE ONE AND ONLY truth... I don't know about that one. When people get to thinking like that then dangerous things can happen... I guess it depends on where you take your truth from the Bible...
George w. Bush is so definately NOT the president of the US!.... lol...
What music do you put to that dance? (Sorry, that was rude, couldn't resist.)
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My mistake--I had you down as a secular humanist.
Did Dante have the agnostics on the same level of hell with the secular humanists, or were they down with the (cringe) communists/Marxists/socialists? I can't recall. ;-)
By the way, archaeological data seems now to show that the gospels were assembled somewhere around 80 A.D. and not 400 A.D., when I believe the bible was "complete." Complete in quotes, because it actually consists of only a portion of the writings originally intended for inclusion. Sadly, the remainder were pretty well destroyed, only fragments ever having been found (although I dream of that undiscovered cave where they kept the backup disks). It would be interesting to see how closely extrapolations of the segments on Christ's (common law?) marriage by novelists like Dan Smith comport with the original manuscripts.
Not that it matters, practically. The most hard-fought tenets of "christianity" today don't appear in the bible at all, which seems to have no impact whatever on "believers" except it makes it kind of unclear what is believed IN. Except for biblical scholars, folks' eyes just glaze over when they hear that. Truth is so unsettling.
Perhaps my favorite (if sad) example: Leviticus contains a rather lengthy passage consisting of specific instructions by which a man, with the help of his priest, can force his wife to abort. It states that IF she survives, she will likely be infertile thereafter. Neither the mortality nor the infertility is a BAD thing in Leviticus--just the opposite--this is a wife for whom he has no further use and would prefer not to have pregnant, if she insists on staying around at all.
Then there's the bible verse AGAINST abortion...where did I put that? It was here just a minute ago, I'm sure. Oh, wait, I remember now--THERE ISN'T ONE.
Remember when non-clergy in Europe were not allowed to read the bible, often under pain of a horrendous death? It seemed important then that the people not compare current christian doctrine to the bible. And now we know: All the church had to do was not forbid the reading of it and, like today, no one would have bothered. And if someone rudely tells them what it really says--well, you know, deNial ain't just a river in Egypt.
Apparently I came back today just to offend everyone I missed yesterday. If I'da known that, maybe I woulda stood in bed.
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My mistake--I had you down as a secular humanist.
Did Dante have the agnostics on the same level of hell with the secular humanists, or were they down with the (cringe) communists/Marxists/socialists? I can't recall. ;-)
By the way, archaeological data seems now to show that the gospels were assembled somewhere around 80 A.D. and not 400 A.D., when I believe the bible was "complete." Complete in quotes, because it actually consists of only a portion of the writings originally intended for inclusion. Sadly, the remainder were pretty well destroyed, only fragments ever having been found (although I dream of that undiscovered cave where they kept the backup disks). It would be interesting to see how closely extrapolations of the segments on Christ's (common law?) marriage by novelists like Dan Smith comport with the original manuscripts.
Not that it matters, practically. The most hard-fought tenets of "christianity" today don't appear in the bible at all, which seems to have no impact whatever on "believers" except it makes it kind of unclear what is believed IN. Except for biblical scholars, folks' eyes just glaze over when they hear that. Truth is so unsettling.
Perhaps my favorite (if sad) example: Leviticus contains a rather lengthy passage consisting of specific instructions by which a man, with the help of his priest, can force his wife to abort. It states that IF she survives, she will likely be infertile thereafter. Neither the mortality nor the infertility is a BAD thing in Leviticus--just the opposite--this is a wife for whom he has no further use and would prefer not to have pregnant, if she insists on staying around at all.
Then there's the bible verse AGAINST abortion...where did I put that? It was here just a minute ago, I'm sure. Oh, wait, I remember now--THERE ISN'T ONE.
Remember when non-clergy in Europe were not allowed to read the bible, often under pain of a horrendous death? It seemed important then that the people not compare current christian doctrine to the bible. And now we know: All the church had to do was not forbid the reading of it and, like today, no one would have bothered. And if someone rudely tells them what it really says--well, you know, deNial ain't just a river in Egypt.
Apparently I came back today just to offend everyone I missed yesterday. If I'da known that, maybe I woulda stood in bed.
I love the lol cats on you tube. The slide shows with captions? I can watch those for hours, I always get a kick out of those.
oops didn't work.. I tried to post a capitalist lolcat from icanhascheezburger. no luck =(
Heh heh...well, you are right. You technically beat me if you split our scores. BUT... my wife and I argued over one question that would have given me 2 positive points and her two negative points...she conceded that one to me. so that would put us at;
Savas "-49...Wife -53. So she IS the true winner and communist here. :)
It's funny, I hang out on the religion/philosophy forum over at myspace and we argue about this type of thing A LOT.
We tend to get into the occassional scriptural argument and one of the main things I argue is that a lot of biblical verse can be interpreted in vastly different manners. People forget the bibles weren't written in english originally as well. You'd be surprised at what happens to a translation when you start pulling up the original hebrew/greek words and looking for alternate usage.
Actually, it's one of my main killing points. Now, I don't want to upset anyone here so I'll back off if I ruffle any feathers, but I often argue that you can't take the bible as the literal word of God because it's been "filtered" through an imperfect human being. Any translation is danger of corruption due to the social context of the individual doing the translating, a well as the effect of what they've learned growing up.
Jesus's teachings were supposed to be about breaking the present bonds of philosophical and social restrictions. But you can't just take such teachings and "tack them on" to a person and expect an ideal result. The person's past will always attempt to corrupt and skew any enlightening system; it can't be helped, it's the nature of the beast (sorry, bad pun).
So I'm very wary of translations/ interpretations that conveniently back up present day social mores and attitudes that condemn others (this applies to the original writing down, as well).
Shoot, I'm rambling again. This is why I don't discuss theology when I first wake up. :)
Anyway, this test is a perfect example of this. You've got a group that wants people to accept their private beliefs, so they've translated biblical verse to fit the need.
(I know a guy who did a dissertation on the hypothesis; "The bible supports homosexuality". it's fairly brilliant and impressive work, and must have taken him years of translating from the original hebrew/greek).
(for those wondering, Savas is a Deist with agnostic tendencies. :) )
Savas "-49...Wife -53. So she IS the true winner and communist here. :)
It's funny, I hang out on the religion/philosophy forum over at myspace and we argue about this type of thing A LOT.
We tend to get into the occassional scriptural argument and one of the main things I argue is that a lot of biblical verse can be interpreted in vastly different manners. People forget the bibles weren't written in english originally as well. You'd be surprised at what happens to a translation when you start pulling up the original hebrew/greek words and looking for alternate usage.
Actually, it's one of my main killing points. Now, I don't want to upset anyone here so I'll back off if I ruffle any feathers, but I often argue that you can't take the bible as the literal word of God because it's been "filtered" through an imperfect human being. Any translation is danger of corruption due to the social context of the individual doing the translating, a well as the effect of what they've learned growing up.
Jesus's teachings were supposed to be about breaking the present bonds of philosophical and social restrictions. But you can't just take such teachings and "tack them on" to a person and expect an ideal result. The person's past will always attempt to corrupt and skew any enlightening system; it can't be helped, it's the nature of the beast (sorry, bad pun).
So I'm very wary of translations/ interpretations that conveniently back up present day social mores and attitudes that condemn others (this applies to the original writing down, as well).
Shoot, I'm rambling again. This is why I don't discuss theology when I first wake up. :)
Anyway, this test is a perfect example of this. You've got a group that wants people to accept their private beliefs, so they've translated biblical verse to fit the need.
(I know a guy who did a dissertation on the hypothesis; "The bible supports homosexuality". it's fairly brilliant and impressive work, and must have taken him years of translating from the original hebrew/greek).
(for those wondering, Savas is a Deist with agnostic tendencies. :) )
A few observations on the marketing gimmick/Christian test:
1. Clearly the published results are from a self-selected population without any kind of randomization or test controls. There goes the validity of the data.
2. There seems to be a strong concurrence between christian values and hard-core free-market values, laughable in light of the fact that Christ has to be one of the three or four best known socialist leaders in history. But then, it is no secret that Christ’s reappearance today would be an embarrassment to the kingpins of organized religion.
3. Statistics for the younger group, despite their having grown up with these parents, are significantly less rigidly in lock-step, suggesting that even after the peak learning years, continued propaganda to adults is effectual in restraining unwanted flexibility of thoughts.
4. The lesser bias in youth scores is a fabulous marketing ploy for the writers, who appear to be selling re-education camps with titles like “Thinking Like A Christain [sic]” where the malleable thoughts of youth are controlled to match the lock-step results of adult subjects.
5. Because almost the entire “test” is opinion questions, I was surprised to scroll down and see the answer key. It would be less bizarre if the key answers were labeled “agrees with us” and “disagrees with us” rather than correct and incorrect. [But you are invited, I see, to read the “correct” results and retake the test for a higher score and a more adequately programmed mind—I added the last phrase.]
6. I attribute my brilliant score largely to my broad and detailed command of biblical content, which provided answers to the few fact-based questions (e.g., “Does the Bible say….?). Let me point out, though, that my score of -52 is more than (well, actually less than) half of -102. After distributing the Savas Score equally between collaborating subjects, I win—er, lose.
Sorry about that, Savas, but it will actually be a GOOD thing overall, save us a lot of extraneous mental effort. To wit,
"There must be absolutes if there is to be moral and legal order.
Your answer: Tend to Disagree (0 points) Correct answer: Strongly Agree"
1. Clearly the published results are from a self-selected population without any kind of randomization or test controls. There goes the validity of the data.
2. There seems to be a strong concurrence between christian values and hard-core free-market values, laughable in light of the fact that Christ has to be one of the three or four best known socialist leaders in history. But then, it is no secret that Christ’s reappearance today would be an embarrassment to the kingpins of organized religion.
3. Statistics for the younger group, despite their having grown up with these parents, are significantly less rigidly in lock-step, suggesting that even after the peak learning years, continued propaganda to adults is effectual in restraining unwanted flexibility of thoughts.
4. The lesser bias in youth scores is a fabulous marketing ploy for the writers, who appear to be selling re-education camps with titles like “Thinking Like A Christain [sic]” where the malleable thoughts of youth are controlled to match the lock-step results of adult subjects.
5. Because almost the entire “test” is opinion questions, I was surprised to scroll down and see the answer key. It would be less bizarre if the key answers were labeled “agrees with us” and “disagrees with us” rather than correct and incorrect. [But you are invited, I see, to read the “correct” results and retake the test for a higher score and a more adequately programmed mind—I added the last phrase.]
6. I attribute my brilliant score largely to my broad and detailed command of biblical content, which provided answers to the few fact-based questions (e.g., “Does the Bible say….?). Let me point out, though, that my score of -52 is more than (well, actually less than) half of -102. After distributing the Savas Score equally between collaborating subjects, I win—er, lose.
Sorry about that, Savas, but it will actually be a GOOD thing overall, save us a lot of extraneous mental effort. To wit,
"There must be absolutes if there is to be moral and legal order.
Your answer: Tend to Disagree (0 points) Correct answer: Strongly Agree"
I had a deeply meaningful response to this, backing up even, but it was blipped in a double-whammy. Clearly an act of god.
-11%? Hmmm, that makes you suspiciously close to being a capitalist pig.
you will be the treasurer of the new red party!!! :)
you will be the treasurer of the new red party!!! :)
Welcome, Comrade! now we drink Russian wodka, and dance the kazatzka! :)
Off the topic, what phone carriers do you folks use? I'm using sprint, and my biggest complaint is every two months I get a billing dispute. either overcharges, or they tack on services I didn't request. It's REALLY irritating and I'm becoming suspicious it's no accident, just them trying to rip off the unwary.
Other than this, they've actually been pretty good to me, all things considered.
Off the topic, what phone carriers do you folks use? I'm using sprint, and my biggest complaint is every two months I get a billing dispute. either overcharges, or they tack on services I didn't request. It's REALLY irritating and I'm becoming suspicious it's no accident, just them trying to rip off the unwary.
Other than this, they've actually been pretty good to me, all things considered.
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