my 4 year old constantly soils herself

[babbyboo]

im at my witts end, my 4 year old daughter keeps weeing and pooing on herself, i have tried everything, praising for using the toilet, star chart, giving out nothing is working , anyone any suggestions?????

[babbyboo]

i know yes terrible waiting times, no not uk health care but worse again irish healthcare its a joke, thanks a million for your help, really appreciatedx

[margypops]

I have to say WOW to the length of time you have to wait for an appt, would you be under the UK health care ?  From what you are telling me here I think that you are right in getting her evaluated .,and some therapy will be helpful.good luck let us know how she is doing ..

[babbyboo]

yes has a great relationship with her brother, went to pre school for 2 years and was really happy there, she is very hard to handle some times, school watched it closely as did i,  she has a really bad temper, all physical elements have been ruled out, she due to see a behavioral therapist but earliest date i could get was october :( , she is like that old nursery rhyme, when she is good she is really really good but when she in her humours she is horrid, she can control the wee and poo as she gets up in the middle of the night to go and also when she was in pre school when she was well behaved she didnt soil herself but when she acted up is did, school let me look over video recordings or her in school to see if we can pin point anything, its a horrible thing to sat but i think she is a bit of a bully, its breaking my heart, i do feel the behavior and the soiling are all linked, she has a huge personality for such a little person and is really intellegent and i adore her, nothing has changed or upset her, this is going on since early age, for her sake i want to sorty this out before school,

[margypops]

So she has had her urine tested for a UTI   and it was negative ? that would account for the consistent wetting, does she go to daycare or pre school,any stomach ache or upset by anything or anyone, how does she get on with her brother ?

[babbyboo]

no she doesnt only had a m/c start of june,was very early so she didnt know,, she has an older brother who is nearly 12, no major changes in her life, this has been a problem since training, its not a physical problem all tests came back clear, and also she never soils her bed  at night, im at the end of my thether, happening up to ten times a day, i remind her all the time but makes no odds,she uses the toilet too its so frustrating and its embarrassing when we are out anywhere, she due to start big school in september and they wont take her if its still happening, she will turn 5 in november, when she was at playschool she did it also and didnt bother her, my gp has no answers dont know what to do

[margypops]

Have you recently had a new sibling she may want to copy as they get heaps more attention ?