Is 11mg of (Versed) Midazolam excessive?

[crystalfresh]

Endoscopy procedure.

I was given Versed 1-3mg every 2-3 minutes for 10 minutes totaling 11mg (eleven mg) of Versed. I'm a light weight at 130 lbs. I mentally went out completely after receiving the first 2mg. Not sure why they continued to give me an additional 9mg over the next 8 minutes? Trying to know if that is excessive?

Stats during,
Oxygen recorded 100% every 5 minutes
BP was 115/55 to 117/60, pulse of 83-92.

Normal everyday BP (Just to compare)
125/75, pulse of 60

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I wasn't supposed to get anything. The doc said right before the procedure not to worry, no sedation yes I know, we won't drug you yes yes I know. Yea, doc clearly lied.

-- If you don't want drugs
1. Telling the doc no drugs is not enough! TRUST ME I WAS DRUGGED.
2. They make you sign a consent form relating to medications "for emergencies only"
   = So on this form you MUST WRITE - NO DRUGS, NO EXCEPTIONS unless needed in a life threatening situation to keep patient alive, no exceptions. NO SEDATION! It probably won't say anything about being sedated but it is important to write it on every form too. Just to be safe. I declined sedation on this form by the way and was still sedated.
> Then get the doctor to sign the consent form stating NO SEDATION. It is not enough not to have it, you must have it in writing that you "will not be sedated".
   = Then write: See additional consent forms for medication. Here you can make your own form should you decide to accept medication for any type of sedation.
On your consent form write:
        o: additional consent forms required for each medicating.
        o: can not exceed this ______ dosage amount.
        o: no repeat dosages with this consent. (or they might repeat the same dosage over and over)
        o: not valid with out patient signature.

It normally doesn't get this bad but for your protection if you choose mild or no sedation it must be done like this just in case. I'm talking from experience now.
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My question is: Is 11mg of Versed 1mg/ml excessive over 10 minutes for conscious sedation. Thank you.

[serialmom12]

ANY amount of Versed is excessive. That poison is dangerous and messes people up for life. I had it one time to break up a gall stone and it almost killed me. It's been years now, I while I have nightmares about the experience and have been suffering from PTSD ever since I was given Versed, I have no memories of my children growing up, or about a 15 year span of my life...it's like it never existed. Versed stole that from me...I can't think of anything worse happening to a person than that. Steer clear of this **** and put on ever medical form you fill out that you are allergic to it. I even bought Medic Alert bracelets for all of my family and best friend stating that they are allergic to Versed.
I wouldn't want what happened to me to ever happen to anyone again. I was lied to, tricked and given WAY too much of this poison and it pretty much ruined my life...I can't believe the FDA ever approved this drug for use on humans!! It should be banned.

[nurse555]

List versed as an allergy since you know the amnesic effects therefore you will not receive it again.  I hope since you have voiced feeling suicidal that you are back in counseling for your  PTSD.  Sounds as if you have been keeping a handle on things for a long time and know your triggers.  That is  excellent knowledge to have.  Once you know the triggers then you can prepare yourself and try to prevent, omitt, and reduce the number of triggers that you have to face.(which you were trying to do in this case.)  Also I'm sure since you have been dealing with this for years that you also have a plan in place of how to handle the triggers of your PTSD healthly when they cannot be avoided. Do you have a regular counselor, family member, pastor or friend that helps you in these times of need?  And also when or if someone asks you what your allergy to versed is you could answer by saying that is makes your PTSD worse...Tell them that it causes you to decompensate...You do not need to go into detail.  I do not think that there is a doctor out there that would touch that comment medically or legally with a ten foot pole.

[nurse555]

Moo79,So you can relate to the previous conversations of how they feel about the time lost.  I can fully understand your situation and only used that example because that is kinda what she was reminding me of in relation to the emotion she was expressing about the time she could not account for. ........ As for the contradicting myself.... no it is not a secret........ Some people are wide awake and follow directions and carry on normal conversations while other people who for lack of a better term are "light weights" when it comes to how they react to medications are "napping" with the same dose.   This too is my last posting because it is very clear that you have a very negative perspective of all healthcare and I am very sorry that you have experienced such awful things.  I hope in the future that you will be able to trust your doctor and have a much more pleasant experience.   But as I mentioned before....For the one of you that confronted the doctor and have wrote out your wishes.... Sounds as if you may have a malpractice suit on your hands......If you continue to have issues with what has happened counseling is NOT a bad option.  In a sense you were assaulted just not in the "normal or routine way" society thinks of when they hear the word assault.

[crystalfresh]

I don't know what I was looking for? I thought maybe I'd feel better confronting the doc that he had no consent. He even admitted I staid stop-no. Only problem is that I was drugged after that and kept being drugged I told him. (This is what he was hiding from me) He wanted me to believe it was a reaction to a small amount. So he knows that I know I was drugged against my will. I guess I was hoping for a valid reason. I only posted this to help other people learn what can happen when they sign papers. Maybe this thread will save someone else the trouble I had. :(

[crystalfresh]

I spoke to my doc figured why not, he's going to lie anyway. He said that I said stop, no more and he said he stopped medicating me. I said interesting that I said stop before you started. Then he got frazzled and said I was talking to him during the exam telling him about my life and that I just don't remember. But just before that he said I was completely sleeping and snoring. It was confirmation how things went. Badly. Now it makes sense why they gave me so much so fast to make sure I went out. :(

[moo79]

I too was given Versed for a procedure, even though I specifically said No Versed.  I did not want the amnesia because I was drugged and raped as a child by my babysitter who was a med student, and have had periods of PTSD since then.  So to me, nothing is more traumatic than not remembering.

My doctor later told me that it was my fault because I didn't tell him about being raped.  He told me that saying I didn't want amnesia, or that amnesia would cause me great anxiety was not enough.

I think it is unreasonable to expect a patient to have to talk about being raped right before a hospital procedure where she will be in a room full of people and is practically naked.

Since the procedure 8 months ago, I have had a really severe relapse of PTSD and have become suicidal.  How can I ever trust that people whose job it is to take care of me will not lie to me and hurt me again?