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WBC and Acute HIV
Hello all,
So recently i have been thinking I acquired an std, and more specificall I have been worrying about HIV. I am coming up to the 1 mth mark of my encounter, and am going to get tested again for sure. I was wondering what kind of wbc effect acute hiv has on you. I had blood work done about 6 days post on april 23rd (got full std panel as dr ordered it after saying i was sexually active, all clean at that point, but within window period obviously). I had high absolute neutrophils of 11.26 (1.8-7 range) and monocytes of .97 (0 - 0.8)., normal lymphs of 1.67 (1-3.2) and regular eosnophils .14 (0 - .4) total wbc of 13.9.
at that point my symptoms were fatigue, abdominal pain/pressure, loss of appetite, diarrhea. Then I had large amounts of blood in diarrhea, looked like almost all blood, no formation whatsoever. I ran to the dr freaked out, ran more tests. Stool samples were clean (i could have already fought the bacteria off, this is my hope) and wbc was still high neutrophils at 10.51, normal lymphs at 2.59 (although it rose 0.9), high monocytes of 1.01 and eosnophils of 0.29 were normal. Now i know bleeding diarrhea isnt a normal symptom of hiv, but symptoms are not specific really. also im not sure if I have a rash, my nech and chest seem red, but i was on vacation 2 weeks ago in the sun, and i have acne so chest normally has some pimples, but i do notice some white bumps, could those just be clogged follicles? I dunno if its a rash but i thought id mention it, shoulders and top of back, top of chest and neck more red than my stomach. noticed some white patches on arm, doc said thats not a rash (only the arm part, didnt notice chest till after). So does my blood count indicate iv in anyway? I now it kills lymphs but thats down the line, this is acute. I know things like mono lower wbcs, but does acute hiv lower it? or increase? my doc said it could be viral but who the **** knows? sorry for the long post, just trying to be thorough. It could be ulcerative collitis or crohns, or maybe i just had e coli or something but just wondering what your opnions are. I posted in collitis forum, no responses. Im getting tested soon, cant wait for my most likely negative result, they do hiv duo (p24 and elisa) so one month (30 days) should be legit right?
So recently i have been thinking I acquired an std, and more specificall I have been worrying about HIV. I am coming up to the 1 mth mark of my encounter, and am going to get tested again for sure. I was wondering what kind of wbc effect acute hiv has on you. I had blood work done about 6 days post on april 23rd (got full std panel as dr ordered it after saying i was sexually active, all clean at that point, but within window period obviously). I had high absolute neutrophils of 11.26 (1.8-7 range) and monocytes of .97 (0 - 0.8)., normal lymphs of 1.67 (1-3.2) and regular eosnophils .14 (0 - .4) total wbc of 13.9.
at that point my symptoms were fatigue, abdominal pain/pressure, loss of appetite, diarrhea. Then I had large amounts of blood in diarrhea, looked like almost all blood, no formation whatsoever. I ran to the dr freaked out, ran more tests. Stool samples were clean (i could have already fought the bacteria off, this is my hope) and wbc was still high neutrophils at 10.51, normal lymphs at 2.59 (although it rose 0.9), high monocytes of 1.01 and eosnophils of 0.29 were normal. Now i know bleeding diarrhea isnt a normal symptom of hiv, but symptoms are not specific really. also im not sure if I have a rash, my nech and chest seem red, but i was on vacation 2 weeks ago in the sun, and i have acne so chest normally has some pimples, but i do notice some white bumps, could those just be clogged follicles? I dunno if its a rash but i thought id mention it, shoulders and top of back, top of chest and neck more red than my stomach. noticed some white patches on arm, doc said thats not a rash (only the arm part, didnt notice chest till after). So does my blood count indicate iv in anyway? I now it kills lymphs but thats down the line, this is acute. I know things like mono lower wbcs, but does acute hiv lower it? or increase? my doc said it could be viral but who the **** knows? sorry for the long post, just trying to be thorough. It could be ulcerative collitis or crohns, or maybe i just had e coli or something but just wondering what your opnions are. I posted in collitis forum, no responses. Im getting tested soon, cant wait for my most likely negative result, they do hiv duo (p24 and elisa) so one month (30 days) should be legit right?
Just wanted to let you know my daughter whom is 10 has high blodd count...it has nothing to do with HIV...and
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Seriously, what is your problem Teak? Why does a valid question have to be pushed aside because i had low risk? I have still not had one response related in any way to the thread title. feel free to ban me for asking a legitimate question, and not getting any responses related to the thread title.
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I was specifically asking about wbc levels and acute hiv (did you guys skip that part?), and did not receive any answer that even mentioned it, that was the point of this post. I plan to get tested on wednesday when my doctor is open after work, that will be a duo test and will be more than 30 days. I was not asking for another risk assessment as already knew I was low risk to begin with, considering the woman was not confirmed hiv positive and my symptoms dont fit the "triad" the dr speaks of AND i was protected. If anyonre has any idea about how acute hiv affects white blood cells, I'd be interested to know, a lecture about my risk is not what I am looking for. However I must thank everyone on this forum, I realise when they see me post a bunch of times, it has got to be annoying, however I only ever posted in this specific forum asking about hiv once, the other forums were when I was more concerned with herpes and other stuff.
So to repeat my question and topic of this thread, how does acute hiv affect white blood cell counts? Thanks again.
So to repeat my question and topic of this thread, how does acute hiv affect white blood cell counts? Thanks again.
If you're not sure about the integrity of the condom how can we be? You were there, we weren't. The general advice is that you would know about the condom, but alcohol effects people in different ways, and that includes recollections of events I suppose. My situation, in that respect, was very similar to yours, which is why I tested - i.e. for my own peace of mind, and to brush away any niggling doubts and 'what ifs' when I did not completely trust my drink addled memory. If that is the case it is natural to have those thoughts, and I do not believe they are irrational, but this forum cannot help with that type of personal uncertainty. If you feel you cannot remember everything then get tested. You probably are worrying too much about the condom, I probably was, but if YOU have doubt about the events themselves then only a test will resolve them for you with regards HIV.
I could have said that much more simply: if you are sure the sex was protected then you have no risk, if you are not sure then get a test.
Either way, I think you have exhausted all of the help this forum can provide, and now it is in your hands.
Symptoms are never used to diagnose HIV, as you appear to know, and those you have are hardly screaming out HIV anyway, and could be all manner of conditions. For instance, they are all well documented signs of stress and anxiety.
Teak, I was not implying that the manufacturer states a conclusive result at 28 days, I was conveying the percentage accuracy they claim, two different things. Sorry if that did not come across.
I could have said that much more simply: if you are sure the sex was protected then you have no risk, if you are not sure then get a test.
Either way, I think you have exhausted all of the help this forum can provide, and now it is in your hands.
Symptoms are never used to diagnose HIV, as you appear to know, and those you have are hardly screaming out HIV anyway, and could be all manner of conditions. For instance, they are all well documented signs of stress and anxiety.
Teak, I was not implying that the manufacturer states a conclusive result at 28 days, I was conveying the percentage accuracy they claim, two different things. Sorry if that did not come across.
Then you came to the wrong forum if you want people to agree with you for your satisfaction.
haha i knew you guys would say no risk from protected sex, but to be honest i was hammered and did not inspect the condom after, i didnt think there was a reason to inspect it at the time, ive kinda been questioning if it broke but I guess i definitely woulda known, considering I didn't have any blackouts that night and remember pretty much everything, only recently did i start questioning it. I was really hoping the tests the doc did would figure out what caused my wbc spike, but no bacterial or parasitic infections showed up. Im scheduled for a colonoscopy and an ultrasound to make sure it ain't cancer of ulcerative collitis / crohns. Started getting some anxiety back when the stool tests came back clean, and she mentioned it could be viral, being the idiot I am hiv came to mind.
So i guess there is no answer about whether hiv could present with those types of blood tests? thats what I was really asking, i knew you guys were gonna say it was no risk, I was more looking for a factual answer about acute hiv and effect on wbc's rather than a risk assessment, I already knew it was a low risk encounter anyway.
So i guess there is no answer about whether hiv could present with those types of blood tests? thats what I was really asking, i knew you guys were gonna say it was no risk, I was more looking for a factual answer about acute hiv and effect on wbc's rather than a risk assessment, I already knew it was a low risk encounter anyway.
Go back and reread the replies the Dr. gave you. You never had a risk from protected sex.
There are no tests marketed or sold that will give a conclusive negative test result earlier than 3 months and no the manufacture does not say that your test will be conclusive at 28 days.
You don't actually mention what your exposure was, so it is impossible to say your risk.
However, if it is the same exposure you posted questions to the paid forum about, namely protected sex, then provided your definition of protected means that used a condom for vaginal or anal sex then you have no risk of HIV from such an exposure.
With regards whether the test will be 'legit' at 30 days, the manufacturers of the DUO test state that it is 99.89% accurate after 28 days. Many leading doctors in the UK, where I am, including those on the Medhelp International HIV forum, actively advise that a DUO test at that point or onwards is conclusive and does not require further testing, and the doctors on the paid side of this forum advocate the same at 6-8 weeks.
The policy of this forum is that conclusive testing is at the 3 month mark (earliest) based on, amongst other things, current CDC advice.
It is up to you, in the face of this conflicting advice, to decide at which point your mind would be put at rest by this result.
However, by the looks of things (please advise if otherwise) you had no risk anyway as your encounter was protected, and therefore the accuracy of testing is a moot point.
However, if it is the same exposure you posted questions to the paid forum about, namely protected sex, then provided your definition of protected means that used a condom for vaginal or anal sex then you have no risk of HIV from such an exposure.
With regards whether the test will be 'legit' at 30 days, the manufacturers of the DUO test state that it is 99.89% accurate after 28 days. Many leading doctors in the UK, where I am, including those on the Medhelp International HIV forum, actively advise that a DUO test at that point or onwards is conclusive and does not require further testing, and the doctors on the paid side of this forum advocate the same at 6-8 weeks.
The policy of this forum is that conclusive testing is at the 3 month mark (earliest) based on, amongst other things, current CDC advice.
It is up to you, in the face of this conflicting advice, to decide at which point your mind would be put at rest by this result.
However, by the looks of things (please advise if otherwise) you had no risk anyway as your encounter was protected, and therefore the accuracy of testing is a moot point.
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