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Oral sex, male to female, HIV risk
Dear readers,
I am currently traveling in Cambodia and two days ago I picked up a girl in a club in Phnom Penh to spend the night with. She did not ask for payments and seemed really nice, even a bit shy, so I dont think she was a prostitute, although ofcourse i know nothing about her sexual history. She looked healthy, was not really drunk, drugged or anything and was 27 years old.
After we arrived in my room we had sex twice. Both times we used a condom during the actual (only vaginal) penetration, and it did not break and was still in place after the sex. However, the first time we had sex I performed (unprotected) cunnlingus on her, which lasted about 30 sec - 1 minute (if i remember correctly). She did not perform oral sex on me. We did do some manual stimulation, but i know there is no risk in std's from manual stimulation.
The other problem is that I have bleeding gums, usually there is some blood after brushing my teeth. During the dy i almost never notice blood in my mouth. I did not brush my teeth before the sex, but still there is a risk that i had some bleeding gums during the sex. I dont think I had any other cuts or sores in or around my mouth.
1) Am I now at high risk for HIV? I am really a bit scared, and i cant go for medical counseling in a third world country for obvious reasons.
2) Do I need to do a HIV test?
3) I am at risk for other STD's?
4) I know that the symptoms for early HIV infection are similar to all more common viral infections and also the food poisonings you can get as traveller. Still, is there anything I need to pay attention to the next weeks?
I know I have been stupid, in the future I will make sure that I do not engage in unprotected oral sex!
I am currently traveling in Cambodia and two days ago I picked up a girl in a club in Phnom Penh to spend the night with. She did not ask for payments and seemed really nice, even a bit shy, so I dont think she was a prostitute, although ofcourse i know nothing about her sexual history. She looked healthy, was not really drunk, drugged or anything and was 27 years old.
After we arrived in my room we had sex twice. Both times we used a condom during the actual (only vaginal) penetration, and it did not break and was still in place after the sex. However, the first time we had sex I performed (unprotected) cunnlingus on her, which lasted about 30 sec - 1 minute (if i remember correctly). She did not perform oral sex on me. We did do some manual stimulation, but i know there is no risk in std's from manual stimulation.
The other problem is that I have bleeding gums, usually there is some blood after brushing my teeth. During the dy i almost never notice blood in my mouth. I did not brush my teeth before the sex, but still there is a risk that i had some bleeding gums during the sex. I dont think I had any other cuts or sores in or around my mouth.
1) Am I now at high risk for HIV? I am really a bit scared, and i cant go for medical counseling in a third world country for obvious reasons.
2) Do I need to do a HIV test?
3) I am at risk for other STD's?
4) I know that the symptoms for early HIV infection are similar to all more common viral infections and also the food poisonings you can get as traveller. Still, is there anything I need to pay attention to the next weeks?
I know I have been stupid, in the future I will make sure that I do not engage in unprotected oral sex!
There has never been a single case reporting cunnilingus as a source of HIV transmission, neither for the performer nor the receiver.
Licking or sucking the vagina, or vaginal lips is very safe in terms of HIV. There is very little HIV in a woman’s vaginal juices, and saliva damages the virus. Dental dams are not necessary for protection against HIV but may help prevent the transmission of other sexually transmissible infections like herpes.
There are no reliable reports of anyone getting HIV from oral sex on a woman with HIV. Likewise, there is insignificant danger of a positive woman infecting a man by sucking his penis. Condoms can prevent both partners from other sexually transmissible infections. (Treat Yourself Right, AFAO (Australian Federation of AIDS Organisations) 2000).
According to the current state of knowledge, vaginal secretions however have not proved to be a risk during oral sex.
Even if you are HIV-positive, there is no risk of infection for your partner. (The Swiss AIDS Federation)
There are no reliable reports of anyone getting HIV from oral sex on a woman with HIV. Likewise, there is insignificant danger of a positive woman infecting a man by sucking his penis. Condoms can prevent both partners from other sexually transmissible infections. (Treat Yourself Right, AFAO (Australian Federation of AIDS Organisations) 2000).
According to the current state of knowledge, vaginal secretions however have not proved to be a risk during oral sex.
Even if you are HIV-positive, there is no risk of infection for your partner. (The Swiss AIDS Federation)
Yeah, I meant to say no testing! Sorry about the confusion.
Anyways I am feeling better now and going for a beer to celebrate ( its already evening here) :-).
Thanks for the help!
Anyways I am feeling better now and going for a beer to celebrate ( its already evening here) :-).
Thanks for the help!
Vance told you that you DO NOT require testing and I totally agree with him.If you look at his profile he is one of the most experienced experts on this forum.
Ok, i did not know, because I am not a medical professional. I was just really worried about the combination of unprotected cunnilingus, a high risk country and bleeding gums....
Apparently, I was wrong and I am on the safe side, so feeling more relieved now.
To getitright77: Do you agree with Vance that I do need to get tested when i get back to the Netherlands (thus, that there was no risk)?
Apparently, I was wrong and I am on the safe side, so feeling more relieved now.
To getitright77: Do you agree with Vance that I do need to get tested when i get back to the Netherlands (thus, that there was no risk)?
Thanks for your comments, I am feeling a bit relieved now.
One last time, no risk and no testing needed when i come back in the Netherlands?
One last time, no risk and no testing needed when i come back in the Netherlands?
The cases were self reports. Basically after soemone tests positive they are interviewed to find out who they were with, what they did. So in this time people can mis remember, lie or forget about situations. But studies have shown that oral sex does not pose a risk for HIV.
Bleeding gums when brushing teeth is probably common to 80% of the world. it's not a cause for concern.
Bleeding gums when brushing teeth is probably common to 80% of the world. it's not a cause for concern.
And there would have been no risk even if I had some bleeding gums???
Maybe the oral sex episode was a bit longer, like a couple of minutes, i am not totally sure about the exact time.
Maybe the oral sex episode was a bit longer, like a couple of minutes, i am not totally sure about the exact time.
Thanks for your answers.
Some sites say that is possible to get HIV from oral sex and claim that there have been a few documented cases. How come that these doctors claim there have been cases?
Are you sure I do not have to get tested when i get back in the Netherlands to protect the sexual health of my future partners?
Some sites say that is possible to get HIV from oral sex and claim that there have been a few documented cases. How come that these doctors claim there have been cases?
Are you sure I do not have to get tested when i get back in the Netherlands to protect the sexual health of my future partners?
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