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is this still valid?
By searching old posts on medhelp i found this which i will copy paste below, are current experts at medhelp agree with what the poster had said?
Kries May 14, 2009
There is absolutely no risk from frottage (Rubbing genital togther).
As for your penis head coming in contact with her vaginal secretions at the opening of the vagina. Those secretions are no more infectious than tears, saliva and sweat. Which are NOT infectious. The only infectious fluids inside the vagina are the cervico-vaginal fluids, which are found all the way at the end of the vaginal (top). This fluid is a think membrane fluid that is coated on the cervix to protect it. You had no risk what-so ever, so you do not need testing.
Your symptoms are not HIV related. See your doctor if your symptoms keep causing you concerns.
Kries May 14, 2009
There is absolutely no risk from frottage (Rubbing genital togther).
As for your penis head coming in contact with her vaginal secretions at the opening of the vagina. Those secretions are no more infectious than tears, saliva and sweat. Which are NOT infectious. The only infectious fluids inside the vagina are the cervico-vaginal fluids, which are found all the way at the end of the vaginal (top). This fluid is a think membrane fluid that is coated on the cervix to protect it. You had no risk what-so ever, so you do not need testing.
Your symptoms are not HIV related. See your doctor if your symptoms keep causing you concerns.
I agree that frottage is not a risk. Air inactivates the virus. The only ways people get HIV are unprotected vaginal sex, unprotected anal sex, or sharing IV drug needles to inject drugs. As CurfewX says, all transmission is inside the body.
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What do you say about this i am pasting below
As for your penis head coming in contact with her vaginal secretions at the opening of the vagina. Those secretions are no more infectious than tears, saliva and sweat. Which are NOT infectious. The only infectious fluids inside the vagina are the cervico-vaginal fluids, which are found all the way at the end of the vaginal (top). This fluid is a think membrane fluid that is coated on the cervix to protect it. You had no risk what-so ever, so you do not need testing.
As for your penis head coming in contact with her vaginal secretions at the opening of the vagina. Those secretions are no more infectious than tears, saliva and sweat. Which are NOT infectious. The only infectious fluids inside the vagina are the cervico-vaginal fluids, which are found all the way at the end of the vaginal (top). This fluid is a think membrane fluid that is coated on the cervix to protect it. You had no risk what-so ever, so you do not need testing.
So you are saying your risk is simply that your penis head came into contact with secretions? The risks do not change and that is not a risk.
@GuitarRox yes but i wanted to know if this ( The only infectious fluids inside the vagina are the cervico-vaginal fluids, which are found all the way at the end of the vaginal (top). This fluid is a think membrane fluid that is coated on the cervix to protect i) correct or not
The answer is the same. You had no risk regardless.
Hey, i will still stand by this comment. I'm not sure the science holds up, as in I'm not aware of any research that proves the only infectious fluid is deep in the vagina covering the cervix, I'm not saying its wrong but i don't think its right.
What i do know is nobody has ever caught HIV from frottage. Nobody has studied this (as far as I'm aware as to why nb why would you if nobody ever caught it) but my personal thoughts on it is HIV is very fragile and needs lots of the virus to cause infection. Something bits of vaginal fluid wont do. On top of that the air will inactivate the virus quickly lowering its already low infectivity already.
What i do know is nobody has ever caught HIV from frottage. Nobody has studied this (as far as I'm aware as to why nb why would you if nobody ever caught it) but my personal thoughts on it is HIV is very fragile and needs lots of the virus to cause infection. Something bits of vaginal fluid wont do. On top of that the air will inactivate the virus quickly lowering its already low infectivity already.
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Thanks for replying
I would love to see what others experts say regarding that post
I am pasting the link to the original post if someone wants to read it
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Rubbing-Frottage-Symptoms/show/949799
Even Doctor Edward W Hook, MD had commented on that post and seems like he was agreed with the poster
I would love to see what others experts say regarding that post
I am pasting the link to the original post if someone wants to read it
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Rubbing-Frottage-Symptoms/show/949799
Even Doctor Edward W Hook, MD had commented on that post and seems like he was agreed with the poster
Hi - I agree with the assessment that frottage is not a risk. HIV transmission occurs INSIDE the body - when an unprotected penis is inside a vagina or anus.
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