moving on...please read

[LIZZIE LOU]

this post is really directed to those of you who are extreme worried wells and suffer from ocd.  you know who you are :)

when someone becomes obsessed with having hiv...it becomes all consuming...taking over every aspect of your life.  you wake up and head straight to the internet...you search...you read...obsessing...obsessing.  the last thing you do before going to sleep, is check the internet one more time...obsessing...obsessing.  this "pattern" has now become another part of your ocd...unable to do anything else except think and research about hiv.

when you receive your negative result...i strongly urge you to move on with your life.  continuing to stay on the internet reading about hiv has got to stop.  you have to break the cycle.  i have seen sooooooo many ppl get their negative result...and decide that they want to stay on the forum and "help" others who have gone through the same experience that they have.  listen to me...IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.  nine times out of ten...you end up right back in the same place...in your mind...that you were before receiving your negative result.  it is all part of your ocd...the obsessing...the what ifs...the doubts.  you will never put this behind you if you dont break the cycle.  so many times, your obsessive thinking can (and does) drive ppl to a worse place in their life.  not everyone that comes to this site is an extreme worried well and suffering from ocd...although the large majority of you are.  

there is a saying that i have posted many, many times on here.  NOTHING CHANGES IF NOTHING CHANGES.  i urge you to step up to the plate and take care of yourself...your mental self.  instead of obsessing about hiv...put that energy and effort into seeking treatment for your ocd.  medhelp also has a forum for ppl with ocd...and another forum for ppl suffering from anxiety.  when you have a conclusive result...there ARE NO inf, ands, or buts about it.  you are conclusively negative.  it is time for you to move on from this forum and post in the "appropriate" forum.

i wish you nothing but good luck in the future...but it is time to move on :)

[alienshadow]

yep MOVE ON only a few can accept their negative and then help others it was hard for me at first but with support from my wife and a few friends on this forum i got past that fear AND yes it is hard i know but you have to learn a fact is a fact there will be things that will happen after testing like getting sick or maybe a rash or feeling of a lymph node from having a sore throat there are so many facts here i could say BOTTOM line is move on and dont think hey i can give out advice now when you get that negative when in your heart you havent accepted it truely in your heart helping others and reading there post will drive in the fear of something you didnt ask and guess what the fear is right back


take our advice once you get that NEGATIVE MOVE ON

[neel333]

thats ture.

[worriedman34]

Do most of people really get negative results? If so what are those symptoms mean.

Can someone please clarify?? Cannot sleep though its 4:am now.

Thanks a lot.

[LIZZIE LOU]

please ask your questions in a new post.

[PAZIG]

thanks lizzie, IMO you should prob. make this post once a week

[LIZZIE LOU]

bump

[alienshadow]

thump

[Leo59]

Yes, that was an interesting comment on obsession, Lizzie Lou. I guess the difficulty in moving on after a negative result comes from guilt over careless behavior. It does seem self-indulgent in relation to those who get a positive result.

[LIZZIE LOU]

buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt...guilt over careless behavior is NOT a hiv concern, now is it?  you get the negative...and if you cant deal with the result or the guilt...you take it to the appropriate forum :)

[worried826]

If you cant accpet a negative result then your have mental problems ie.. OCD, anxiety, health phobias. I actually have anxiety and always can accept my negatives and I actually have risks, I hate using condoms.

[Leo59]

Absolutely

[LIZZIE LOU]

negatives????  as in plural???

you keep playing with fire and you're bound to get burned!!!!!!!

[worried826]

Yeah I get a negative every year for my annual test, probably been with over 25 women unprotected. I know pretty stupid in hindsight, im not doing that **** anymore though, im not playing with fire from now on.

[alienshadow]

well worried 825 whats going to be your appoarch for contraseptics

[worried826]

Thats why I find it amazing in these threads here where people cant accept the negative or swear they have HIV from non risk situations, then I look at myself with tons of actual risks and I think wow, I must be really careless and really lucky.

[worried826]

I guess rubbers, although i really hate using them. Theres gotta be a way to make it comfortable using them becuase when i have used them I was extremely bored and not into the sex. I would actualy rather not have sex rather than use a condom.

[LIZZIE LOU]

if you get hiv from hating condoms...you'll wish you had used them.  no matter that hiv treatment has come a long way...the social stigma is a killer.  

i have a good idea...why dont you get into a monogamous relationship and then you wouldnt have to use them.  just a thought???????  a good one at that, if i have to say so myself :)

[alienshadow]

well i would say get a porn mag and videos thats safer than getting hiv plus you wouldnt have to wine and dine all the time LOL
man really be careful dude no matter what you know how dirty society can be

[worried826]

Yeah I know I would surely wish I used condoms if I ever caught HIV, but hindsight is always 20/20 right and foresight is usually like 20/100, lol?

I actually am getting back with my ex wife now so hopefully that works out for the best.

[worried826]

I agree man.

[ali89]

Let me express that this was true

The problem of people not to accept the result of the critical and negative after three months because there is floundering in the information in the Internet and from some doctors and doctors do not want to shoulder responsibility by saying you okay not worry, they say there are always some people delay the emergence of antibodies have to escape from responsibility, I do not know whether they do not Trust themselves and their experiences I understand the feeling of danger improve what is seen less and a smaller percentage, however small

For example, I contacted the Advice Centre and the doctor said to me you must do several tests after six months and Elisa pcr  
I told them this is not true never contacted the next day and spoke with another person said I told you this talk is simply not true that I said I am sorry that Dr. your answer was new and this first day of action looool :)

In short, non-acceptance of the result after three months, the main reason it is misinformation and fear of doctors assume responsibility

Reminding

This speech does not apply to Dr. H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D. And Edward W Hook and also the members of this distinguished forum

[LIZZIE LOU]

a little bump here...

[samioso]

Well for somebody like myself it wasnt easy at first for me to think that I wasnt HIV positive because I live in MIAMI and we have the highest HIV rate in the country.There are stats that say 1 out of every 5 people living here has HIV and thats scary.So when I had my exposure Im thinking whats the chance I DONT have HIV with that type of stat.But I read on this forum and it says that its not easy to catch HIV so I was confused but ,the more you all spoke the more sense you all made to me.I have put that behind me now and have moved on since Ive gotten my negative result and thanks again everybody.

[LIZZIE LOU]

really?  have you moved on?  have you put hiv out of your mind?  i notice that you are back.