Folks, I'm a big oldschool bikerman, mechanic, farmer and people think I'm sort of a tough guy, but I am literally crying right now, to read your posts and to know, finally, that I am not alone in this! It's funny how I never felt fear when facing down armed men, not even any of the times when I was shot (6), but when this happens, I have a very real sense of my own mortality. Doctors have not been of help, not communicative, dismissive, even derisive at times. A 30+ year RN I've known forever has wrung her heart out trying to figure this out and it has been beyond even her knowledge.
To read your posts, to feel what you and I have been through, to see so many who have suffered for so long (30 years, for myself with this) and to see that some of you have found ways to mitigate the symptoms is just about the most wonderful thing I have seen since my kids were born and the first engine I built coughed to life. I really, honestly wanna bearhug every one of you! Brotherly love, Y'All!
I have the same type of issues. I've been researching this for myself for the past 3 years and have made good progress. My doctor guides me since she hasn't the time for the research. The biggest help has been to modify my diet. I'm on a low glycemic diet. No white stuff, sugar or underground vegetables. Also, for me, no fruit or vegetables with potassium. I feel so much better.
My blood pressure doesn't just rise after eating, it spikes. The following are the causes:
1. Improper pH balance of the body - too acidic
The stomach can not make enough acid to digest food because the bodily fluids are too acidic which is very stresfull for the body. This causes all kinds of problems.
2. A condition called Adrenal Fatigue which is common with people in high stress situations, short or long term. This condition causes potassium to build up in the body cells so when you eat anything with potassium and sugar in it, ie: all fruit, juices and tomatoes, green and colored peppers, it will spike your blood pressure starting about a half hour after eating and lasting for 4 to 5 hours. Here are some links that I found to be most helpful.
www.phionbalance.com, www.ayushveda.com and www.adrenalfatigue.org
Hope this helps. I'm finding that these conditions usually involve more than one physical problem. All involve stress and food.
Lots of interesting post on this site and thanks to all for sharing; I am sitting here reading all these post at 3am with not only the high blood pressure but also feeling a little short of breath. Exercise regularly and have a good diet most of the time. Tonight I ate restaurant a little after 8pm and also a little spicy so I woke up checked my BP and it was 160/95 and like I said the shortness of breath also worried me. Any feed back on this? I am thinking anxiety, indigestion, only a small amount of reflux as far as I can tell. Thanks again for all the Intel it is a blessing. God Bless
This could be an insulin resistance problem. I know that I had slightly elevated BP due to insulin resistance, and after eating food with a high glycemic index (which will raise your insulin levels rapidly) my BP went up dramatically. I changed my diet, "fixed" my insulin resistance, and over a period of a few weeks my average BP dropped down to about 110/70. There wasn't much difference between morning readings before breakfast and evening readings before bed. This lasted about six months, when I started eating 'bad' stuff again. I need to get back into the better regimen!
Let me be a voice of reason for all of you who searched this out, sitting at your computer, having anxiety about this right now. I used to suffer from this mindset induced condition for years, until I figured it out. A little about me. I wake up, make my coffee....and drink 2 cups through the afternoon. My first real meal of the day is around 8:30- 9:00 pm. When I do get to sit down and eat, I go big. 5 course, but always healthy, and good portions. Then after I would rest for a bit, my heart rate would sit high, and i'd feel that thing beating in my chest. Almost like a fish out of water. So how did I fix it you ask? I didn't, I understood it, and stop obsessing about it. Want to know how to get past the uncomfortable part? First things first, before you read on, go grab a large glass of cold water. That's fixes problem # 1. When your body goes through the day, It requires water. Lot's of water. So always have a cup of water going when you can. Dehydration is # 1 cause of high heart rates. Like a car engine without oil in a sense. Second thing...Stop checking your pulse... Only making it worse. Let the heart beat, that's what it does best. You heart doesn't just stop, or explode....It's a muscle, and designed to beat. Try to imagine stopping a train goin 80 mph, with your bare hands. I'll bet 10-1 you'll be able to do that before your heart will stop, or explode...Third and most importantly. Subtle lifestyle changes. Coffee....1 cup, or even decaf if you need. Less caffeine is better, this also included soft drinks, some candy bars...Small meals through the day. Don't be afraid to snack. If your slightly active, you won't gain weight. And eat good, healthy foods. Food our grandparents grew up on. There's a reason some of them are still with us well into their 90's. And finally, relax. We're all going through it, and some of us have probably come read these posts a few times. Your still here, and you'll be here again another day. Always remember, your mind is a lot more powerful then we give it credit for, it can trick us into thinking things are wrong, when they aren't you need to stay in control, and always remember the sun will come again tomorrow. On a side note, before I decided to write this, I too was experiencing the same symptoms you all where referring too. Once I wrote this out, approx 7 mins, I feel relaxed and better. It's just that simple. Best of luck to you all.
Hey jay, I have been there and am currently dealing with getting my blood pressure down , anxiety steels life from us. Just want to encourage you to trust in Jesus Christ , when you think about what everyone is posting on here about how food can quickly change what your body is doing. Think about how quickly it can change spiritually . Blessings
I have the same symptoms and after carefully watching the diet, i can tell it happens mostly because of the carbs/sugars.
I'm no doctor, but i understand physiology and biochemistry well enough to assume it makes perfect sense.
Adding glucose (carbs) to the cells promotes glycolysis, which in turn produces H2O as a byproduct, meaning more water in the blood (less dense blood) and therefore a higher BP. (Hydrodynamics 101).
Sodas also contain A LOT of sodium... Which make the body retain liquid, same effect as before...
If we are already borderline hypertensive, our bodies will likely react in the wrong way to excess liquid. From this point there are 5 paths:
1) diuretics (water out)
2) A/B/C channel blockers (less cardiac usage)
3) loose weight (decrease hydrodynamic load)
4) low carb/low sodium diet (regulate H2O)
5) Nitroglycerine/NoX (loosen arteries a bit)
(An alternate for number 5 is masticating and swallowing a raw garlic, as allicin produces nitric oxide as a metabolite, which relaxes the arteries and drops 5% to 10% BP for an hour or so).
Consult the first 2 with an MD before using..
We still have no clue why the renin/angiotensin system fails or why arteries become rigid over time... The day we figure this out, we will have cured hypertension. :(
I am pleased to check all of your answers and opinions on the HR issue, I also have the same issue of HR, when I eat meals my HR rises, although I did not check it thoroughly through a machine but I can feel it beating inside my chest which normally I do not feel before meals, and I can also feel it in my throat area which is a little frightening because I feel I am gonna have a heart attack or something!!
It started 5 years ago, I had my normal dinner and took a cup of black tea with milk as I normally used to do, but that night after an hour I felt a sudden increase in my HR and it did increase with time and reached to a limit that I thought it is the time when people have heart attacks, I was about 22 at that time, it was not just increase in HR but also cold sweats, and shaking in my hands and feet and I thought that my hand and legs were about to freeze or breathless or sleepy, this effect lasted for about 3 hours and I thought I was about to die, that morning I went to doctor and he said it is not that much to be worried about and told me that I was still young to have a heart disease or something, and he took it lightly, but the following days my stomach was in bad order and it lasted about 3 months, not the HR but the stomach condition.
One thing I was sure that my HR was directly related to the stomach condition and yes it is because my HR is constant and normal but sometimes and yes sometimes after having meals I feel my heart beat rapid, and even I can hear it outside my chest and also in my neck region.
After so much research on the web I concluded that eating certain foods may increase HR which includes coffee, rice, salty or spicy foods, soda, energy drinks etc. and people this is absolutely right because after reading this I just monitored my food intake and yes whenever I ate spicy foods, rice, energy drinks and soda, it increased my HR.
Through my experience I assume that:
1- Do not eat heavy meals on an empty stomach.
2- Do not drink after having meals especially soda or even water.
3- Always drink water before eating and only a half glass.
4- Do not eat spicy, salty or sugary food all at once.
5- Do not eat a combination of rice + soda.
6- Do not use energy drinks or even soda on empty stomach.
7- Even if you are starving to death, do not eat with your stomach full but a little, you can eat after a short break of 30 minutes or an hour if you are still feeling hunger.
8- Ad I am a Muslim so I will suggest you all to follow a famous saying of our Prophet MOHAMMAD S.A.W, which is:
"Do divide your stomach into three parts, 1st for food, 2nd for water and 3rd for water" which means that do not eat much when your stomach does not find any space for digestion but eat less as much as you can.
9- Always drink water even when you feel hungry, yes it is not a typing mistake when you feel hungry and you drink water will somehow cover your stomach's space and will decrease your hunger and your food intake.
Why I suggested all these things to follow related to stomach but not to heart directly? Because our digestion has a high impact on our HR, when we eat heavy meals or energetic meals, the stomach has to do hard work, not only the stomach but the whole body and since HEART is the main organ of pumping blood and supply then certainly it has to pay the price, i.e. to supply as much blood as it can, so what will happen? It will beat as fast as it can to supply more and more blood, which will increase HR and BP.
CONCLUSION!! When something like this occurs, do not get panic because panicking increases HR even more and the effect seems as a heart attack which is not even close to it. Consider this as a normal activity of the body which happens to some people who are normal including me and most importantly eat less as much as you can, drink water and avoid salty, spicy food and especially soda and energy drinks.
Be happy guys, enjoy every second of your life, do not waste it worrying about issues which are not worth to be worried about... :) hope it helps!!
blood type diet addresses this. eating right 4 your type explains a lot about how what you eat effects a lot in your body. you metabolize food differently than other blood types. I am o positive and cannot eat corn or wheat gluten or vinegar. When I do, I get the same symptoms as you do. Its just how you metabolize food. heres a link to the website for dr dadamo, who was one of the pioneers of the diet. it works.
I just read your post from last Nov about your high bp and fast hr after eating.
Just wanted to say, I have the exact same problem. Here's some info:
I'm just 34 years old and I'm in good health. I was running 10 miles a week and taking only 2 meds (thyroid and PPI for reflux) and my bp was normally 100/60.
Then one day I bought a blood pressure machine for my wife. I decided to use it on myself to show her. It was just after I had a large meal, and to my surprise, my blood pressure was 200/105. I nearly soiled my pants after seeing this number twice.
I lived near the mayo clinic in AZ so I drove to the ER as fast as possible (in hindsight this was stupid because panic just made it go higher). They kicked me out of the ER with a beta blocker after 2 hours, and my bp was around 150/95. They said I had anxiety. Actually this incident caused anxiety! The next week I was put on 50mg of Toprolol XL (I'm still taking this and it helps a lot).
Since the first episode over a year ago, I have noticed that every time I eat a high protein meal like chicken, whole milk, eggs, peanut butter, etc, my bp would go high.
I have had a $30k checkup including adrenals, two MRIs (abdomen, brain), CT scans, x-rays, stress tests, ultrasounds of aorta and carotids, echocardiograms, so many blood tests I could have filled a donation bank's freezer, and after all this I was left wondering - after seeing four cardiologists, 8 emergency rooms, etc., WHY THE HECK was my blood pressure going through the roof after big meals. I actually developed a panic / anxiety issue BECAUSE of this! Now I'm on beta blockers primarily because of the aftereffects of this mess.
I have spent so many hours in front of the computer trying to research this, it is crazy. I have no medical background so it has been really tough to sort through all the info, but I think there is a connection with the vagus nerve, reflux, etc. and some of this is just normal. Some medical books say it is normal for BP to go up even 50 mmHg after eating a meal for some people.
Things I have found that help, are:
1. Take a PPI like Aciphex.
2. Eat small meals frequently and don't eat after 7pm.
3. Reduce stress and anxiety or don't eat when stressed.
4. When your stomach is fired up, drink Ensure for a week with no solids, to rest your stomach (worked for me twice).
5. Don't eat food too high in fat or protein.
6. Keep your thyroid in check (TSH). When my TSH is high things get worse.
7. Drink plenty of fluids during the day.
I don't know if it is dangerous to have BP being up to ~190/100 or so for a couple of hours,... it causes me a lot of anxiety just thinking about it and my cardiologist had no opinion on this question. I guess its normal for some people, and I know that weight lifters get up to 300/200. So anyway.. I guess if everyone checked their BP after eating there would be more posts here :-)
Yes, and rarely do doctors consider doing the test. But, I know anecdotaly of people who were told it was anxiety, but they truly had a serious disorder.- It is relatively new as a diagnosis and many doctors still do not know much about it.
interesting thing about the vagus nerve and its correlation to the heart rate and increased blood pressure. I had a vagotomy and have experienced major heart increase and higher blood pressure. Mine happens immediately as I only have 1/3 of a stomach. I am now on benazepril as well as the beta blocker metoprolol. It helps but is still not perfect.
If someone were to present to me with these symptoms (I work in the field of emergency medicine) I would certainly not be concerned with your relationship between eating and a raise in BP / Pulse.
When you eat food, the organs involved with digestion (the stomach, intestines etc.) require considerably more blood than normal. This of course diverts blood away from other major organs (the heart, brain and lungs etc.) Because of this the body has to work harder to meet the bodies demand for oxygen and increases the BP and pulse to account for it. This is why after eating a big meal people often fall asleep becuase the extra energy demands on the body cause tiredness.
You say that it can last up to two hours? This is about the same time as it takes for the stomach to do its bit and allow the food through to the intestines, so that reinforces my thoughts.
Some people may notice no change.... But then these people dont necessarily take their BP and pulse after each meal! Second to that, the differences in pulse / BP after eating will vary from person to person and since you are borderline hypertensive, I would say it all sounds pretty normal.
I would imagine that the tests you've had done have been carried out in relation to your general hypertension and not specific to your observations regarding eating.
I'll finish off though as always do by saying I hope this puts your mind at rest somewhat, but if you're concerned, pop back in to see the Doc!
This seems to have worked for me.
I dramatically reduced the amount of saturated fat I eat and I try to keep saturated fat extremely low at dinner. The reason I tried this was because I learned I likely had a problem digesting and metabolizing saturated fat. Plus I was eating a high fat diet to lose weight. The result was massive inflammation.
I was having spikes from normal levels to 220/120 with hr >120 almost every evening. The very day I changed my diet to more vegetables and less saturated fats, the spikes stopped.
After a week, I started having spikes again, but only to 160/100 and they lasted only about an hour. This happened for 3 days and then I started having what I call micro spikes. HR would jump to 100, diastolic would go up about 10 points, but systolic barely moved. These micro spikes only lasted maybe 15 minutes from low to high and back down again.
For the last 2 days, no spikes that I noticed.
I did find a study (which I can't find again) that said in some people, the spike was caused by eating a meal high in glucose and/or fat. The solution was to avoid them or to take vitamins C and E with the meal. Unfortunately, I didn't write down the amount.
What I try to do is eat only vegetables for dinner and especially those high in C and E. Some people (me) shouldn't take vitamin E supplements, so it's better to get it from food.
In 3 weeks, I have also reduced each of the bp meds I take by half and over the last few days, bp never went over 122/81.
I also am taking several supplements and fasting a couple of days a week, but I think the 2/3 reduction in saturated fat was the key.
I spent 3+ hours in ER last night. BP was about 120/75 and I ate 6 oz of oysters, a packaged diet dinner, and a diet drink. It was all I ate that day and I ate about 3 pm. By 4 pm, BP was 220/120 with heart rate at 120.
ER filled me full of meds and BP finally came down under 150/100 after about 3 hours. I am already on meds, so these were in addition to what I normally take.
This is the hypothesis I'm working on. I will go over it with my doc next week.
My 23andme genetics test indicates I likely have a problem producing enough digestive enzymes for digesting fat plus I have trouble metabolizing saturated fat. That means fat isn't broken down enough to be processed by the liver and gets dumped into the blood stream along with bad bacteria, toxins, etc.
So my body goes to war against all this junk in my blood stream. Has anyone else noticed that heartburn, burping, and gas accompanies the high BP and heart rate?
Now my body is undergoing oxidative stress and blood pressure starts going up. At the same time, histamines are being created to fight what it sees as allergens. I think this is why a food that normally doesn't cause a problem, suddenly does. The histamine level in blood is already high, then you eat a food that is high in histamine, and bam - you have what appears to be an allergic reaction.
I have eaten shrimp for years and had 1 severe reaction to it a few years ago. Same thing with Cod.
I'm throwing this out hoping that someone with some medical or strong science background might comment. My 1st thought was taking digestive enzymes and Betaine HCL to break down food would help, but so far it doesn't appear to.
Now I'm leaning toward this being a gut problem - what is often referred to as leaky gut. I would be curious to know how many others have heartburn, gas, burping, etc that starts about the same time as the spike in blood pressure.
I asked the ER doctor to run a histamine blood test so high histamine could be ruled in or out as possible cause - and he refused! The only time to run this test is when you think histamine is high. Otherwise, you just get a normal reading.
im 36 yrs old and anytime after a meal and i climb a stairs my bp and heart rate goes mental varys up to 167/97/121-180/100-130 im on lecalpin 10 mg a day for bp my usual is around 140s-150 throught day in the mornings ive a good bp 120s i have anxiety problems also cause of all dis ended up in emergency room numerous times with panic attacks or with strange pains in chest or lungs its ruined my life i suffer with my stomach also and take 40 mg nexium also i have right bundle branch block in my heart,hematomachrosis high iron in my blood which i get venisections to drain blood,a dudodenal ulcer aswel so i have alot goin on stress cause of all of this is huge sick of seeing doctors never get a straight answer
Blood pressure spikes occur due to the cortisol released to control the immune response to the bacteria that ferment the contents of the meal and enter your body through the intestinal epithelial junction gaps. Reducing carb loading is suggested (Especially high GI carbs) as well as simultaneous consumption of antibacterial foods. Some of those foods are as follows:
fruit skins(Like that of berries, grapes, apples,pears,etc.), omega 3 fatty acids, flaxseeds, flax oil, fish oil, fish skin, garlic, turmeric, coconut oil, cocoa, coffee, lemons, limes, grapefruits, pineapple, vinegar, red wine (Probably due to the essence of red grape skins), hops, that one bitter chinese herb, egg whites, penicullum mold variants (Such as penicillium roqueforti commonly found in blue cheese).
Others with unknown or weaker antibacterial properties (Bacteriostatic).
Nuts, cinnamon, salt, grass fed fermented cow products(substantially higher omega 3 fat content) [cheese, sour cream, butter].
I have increased BP after taking food especially rice. Salts and Chinese food.
I have also proteinurea and kidney stones.
I am taking telmesartan 20mg daily
I am 5 feet 10 inches high and weighs 64kgs I lost weight from 72 kgs to 64 within 6 months of time.
How to recover from this discomfort?
Googled this because I was having exact same issue. Glad to read everyones post. I am 53 and I do not have HBP nor am I diabetic but I am sedentary. (Use my brain like an Olympic athlete but not so much my body). I am going to try the smaller meals method and set my alarm on my phone to get up and move every 45 minutes. Am taking a high grade fish oil, Vit. E, Multi-vitamin (from a health food store) and thinking of adding Pantothenic Acid and Vit. C. I am also doubling my effort to get outside for 15 minutes of sunshine for my Vit. D.
Increase Heart Rate and BP After Every Meal- I think I have figured out that it may have something to do with my digestive system. Doctor has put me on high-blood pressure meds. He will check me in two weeks. I will ask that he prescribe a colonoscopy and other test that will look at my digestive system. I prefer not to keep hourly checks on my BP and heart rate-it tends to make me more anxious. I am so amazed that so many has the same problem and most has not been able to get a diagnosis of what is causing it. I will keep all posted with results of my test.
I have been reading a lot about it but find that no treatment is yet found for it
I have been having the same problem for 3 years, But I could not make out why do I have a racing heart and high BP when I am active and all my cardiac Profile is normal. My HR after a meal goes up to 130bpm and a BP of 160/90.
I have problems when I wake up in the morning. Empty stomach : HR 118 and BP 160/100. But this happens sometimes. My Doctor put me on Beta Blockers 5mg a day. I am also hypertensive and I take losartan-H 50 mg a day.
I went into an Acute phase just a month ago after a symptom holiday of almost 6 months. It started with an upset stomach and a racing heart rate and high BP. But surprisingly it would subside for sometime after I used the Rest room.
This is when I discovered that the problem is related to my digestive tract. So I would took 20ml of Aluminum Hydroxide and surprisingly with in 5 minutes the symptoms would sup-side.
So I decided to treat myself with Ayurveda. On one of my visit to India I met an Ayurveda doctor, who told me a simple treatment which has no side effects and anyone can try it.
Every morning take a table spoon (heaped) of cumin seeds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumin) chew them and swallow them with a glass of water. He said the effect will start showing in 30 days. I have started it and I find my bowl movements improving and I do not get the racing heart rate after a meal many times. But I am taking it for only 10 days now.
And Yes ! He also said that if your situation is Acute add a tea-spoon of carom ( Bishops weed) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajwain) to the dose. I am just trying the cumin seed therapy and it seems to work but time will tell.
If you try this out please post your experiences here so that we all can make this problem solved.
Best wishes to every one
Wow I am very glad to have found these posts as they have given me some food for thought. Since I was a young girl (16) I have experienced high heart rate 20-30 minutes after eating. My heart rate rises as high as 140 bpm. If I have the misfortune of being anywhere but home when this occurs and have to walk anywhere it is scary. My legs burn with muscle exhaustion from just walking, I can't even lift my arms to try and do anything because they feel as though they are filled with led. Worse is when I have an attack and it's hot outside, or I'm in the hot shower, because then I experience pain in my chest as well. I have gone to the doctors repeatedly, but when I was checked out I hadn't recently eaten, (hence no symptoms). One doctor prescribed an antacid, and a beta-blocker. My father also had identical symptoms. The doctors told my father it was acid reflux, and so for a year he too was taking prescribed antacids/inhibitors until one night he woke up with severe chest pains. Thirty minutes later he was dead. My father had told me many times that he'd had this problem since he was a young man. I even have an old family photo of him and my dad was the only one not smiling in the bunch, to which my dad told me one day "I was having one of our attacks, and wasn't feeling well." I worry that I too will meet the same fate as my dad. :( Acid reflux...really?!
i've had related issues. it all started about 3 yrs ago when i taken a colon cleanser. my heart rate and bp elevated. i was in and out of the er. with panic attacks. i went to a heart dr and he gave me a few test, ekg, holter moniter, echo cardio gram, blood work then put me on a beta-blocker. this made it worse so i stopped taking them i tried getting in contact with the heart dr and his office pretty much blew me off. either because i was young or i had no insurance. anyways i went to another heart dr and he gave me stress test and tilt table test. stress test was fine but my tilt table showed that my heart rate jumped from about 73 to 133 in 3 secounds. come to find out i have POTS(postural orthastatic tachacardia syndrome). i think that all this has givin me a panic disorder over all this time not including some of the stress thats in my life. To conclude i didn't see anything about a tilt table test or POTS in any of the other post as i was skimming through them, so i thought i would throw this out there. maybe some can relate. good luck to all
I have the same symptoms as you , however, I have multiple food allergies and I only get these symptoms when I eat those foods that am allergic to. I describe it as the alarms (rapid heart rate) sounding off for the intruders (allergens).