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CAN I STOP VIREAD TO TAKE PEGASYS..Because my HBS Antigen count is increasing with VIREAD...
I checked the HBS count around april ,it was 2000UI/mL plus....i can't remember the right figure but it was above 2000ui/ml..
Now i checked it again it is 3313,00UI/ML ...and am on viread everyday...
Though the DNA is negative ..
I can't trace my HBS count when i immediately stopped pegasys but i have some results here,3 months after pegasys...
3 months after pegasys i was 127,30UI/ML....
IS IT SAFE TO GO BACK TO PEGASYS ?
I checked the HBS count around april ,it was 2000UI/mL plus....i can't remember the right figure but it was above 2000ui/ml..
Now i checked it again it is 3313,00UI/ML ...and am on viread everyday...
Though the DNA is negative ..
I can't trace my HBS count when i immediately stopped pegasys but i have some results here,3 months after pegasys...
3 months after pegasys i was 127,30UI/ML....
IS IT SAFE TO GO BACK TO PEGASYS ?
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I see now it is the FDA fault?
I thought the problem was this > Drug and Medical Device Companies Have Outsized Influence on FDA $700 million in lobbying buys significant access > http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/solutions/agency-specific_solutions/drug-companies-influence-FDA.html
"Data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics and commissioned by the Union of Concerned Scientists show that between 2009 and 2011, prescription drug, biotechnology and medical device companies spent more than $700 million lobbying Congress and the Obama administration.
That’s a lot of money. By comparison, the insurance industry spent $480 million in the same period. Drug companies alone spent more than $487 million on lobbying during the three-year period; biotechnology and medical device companies spent $126 million and $86 million, respectively.
Over the same period, elected officials on a House subcommittee and a Senate committee with oversight over FDA received nearly $6.3 million in campaign contributions from these industries. Donations went to both Republicans and Democrats"
So according to this, those that lobby their interests over there then blame them for the laws and regulations they pass. Too bad that we HBV infected don't have a lobby it seems to me. And just look at the money they are spending on lobbying their interests. All those millions combined how many lives could save!. You think otherwise?
p.s. But, Let me ask you this then mr medical student. What does prevent a doctor or a clinic/s in the US order this equipment and offer it to patients just like they do in Mexico?
Btw, If Scantibodies has it here then FDA did not stop them and so someone else over at UCSD or UCLA, Stanford, Mayo Clinic for example can have it too.
Labeling it as research tool does not require FDA approval. So it has nothing to do with the FDA, but more with the will of doctors and individual clinics.
I thought the problem was this > Drug and Medical Device Companies Have Outsized Influence on FDA $700 million in lobbying buys significant access > http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/solutions/agency-specific_solutions/drug-companies-influence-FDA.html
"Data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics and commissioned by the Union of Concerned Scientists show that between 2009 and 2011, prescription drug, biotechnology and medical device companies spent more than $700 million lobbying Congress and the Obama administration.
That’s a lot of money. By comparison, the insurance industry spent $480 million in the same period. Drug companies alone spent more than $487 million on lobbying during the three-year period; biotechnology and medical device companies spent $126 million and $86 million, respectively.
Over the same period, elected officials on a House subcommittee and a Senate committee with oversight over FDA received nearly $6.3 million in campaign contributions from these industries. Donations went to both Republicans and Democrats"
So according to this, those that lobby their interests over there then blame them for the laws and regulations they pass. Too bad that we HBV infected don't have a lobby it seems to me. And just look at the money they are spending on lobbying their interests. All those millions combined how many lives could save!. You think otherwise?
p.s. But, Let me ask you this then mr medical student. What does prevent a doctor or a clinic/s in the US order this equipment and offer it to patients just like they do in Mexico?
Btw, If Scantibodies has it here then FDA did not stop them and so someone else over at UCSD or UCLA, Stanford, Mayo Clinic for example can have it too.
Labeling it as research tool does not require FDA approval. So it has nothing to do with the FDA, but more with the will of doctors and individual clinics.
"Thank you for just confirming that even in Tijuana they have all these tests available. Maybe you can be so kind to explain as to why we don't? "
You know exactly why we don't have these tests yet! You keep ranting about it! Something called the FDA. The big, bad company that prevents us from being healed.
Obviously Tijuana has these tests. Any intelligent individual knows that Tijuana is located in Mexico, and Mexico is not the United States! TJ is only a couple of hours away, you should get down there before the big bad FDA overtakes the Mexican government and bans Fibroscan and qHBsAg!
You know exactly why we don't have these tests yet! You keep ranting about it! Something called the FDA. The big, bad company that prevents us from being healed.
Obviously Tijuana has these tests. Any intelligent individual knows that Tijuana is located in Mexico, and Mexico is not the United States! TJ is only a couple of hours away, you should get down there before the big bad FDA overtakes the Mexican government and bans Fibroscan and qHBsAg!
"Go to Tijuana, get your Fibroscan and qHBsAg and stop complaining here about how you can't get these! Maybe your negative attitude is leading you down the path of resistance and causing people to shut doors of opportunity? Have you ever wondered why case managers or insurance companies give you trouble? Maybe it is because your attitude incites anger and fear?"
Thank you for just confirming that even in Tijuana they have all these tests available. Maybe you can be so kind to explain as to why we don't? And should we be OK with this :)
p.s. So now the case managers at insurance companies are the good guys? WOW.. Those same folks that deny medical care to the needy to save costs so insurance companies can profit even more?
Maybe Michael Moore is wrong too? He made the whole film about it "Sicko" I recommend you watch it with your fellow medical "professionals".
As for HMO's I am done with them. Because with HMO's now these days one needs to have a case hearing in many cases where a judge approves treatment for you or you die while the bureaucrats decide what tests to approve for ya. Ever experienced that buddy? I did.. and that is a nightmare. That is why I pay $700 a month to never experience this evil ever again. But I will speak about it if put on the spot..
As for debating on issues with your views I have and had no interests. You started it btw attacking me. I just pointed out few things to you and to those that maybe reading us. You even attack stef2011 here that helps everybody btw...
Thank you for just confirming that even in Tijuana they have all these tests available. Maybe you can be so kind to explain as to why we don't? And should we be OK with this :)
p.s. So now the case managers at insurance companies are the good guys? WOW.. Those same folks that deny medical care to the needy to save costs so insurance companies can profit even more?
Maybe Michael Moore is wrong too? He made the whole film about it "Sicko" I recommend you watch it with your fellow medical "professionals".
As for HMO's I am done with them. Because with HMO's now these days one needs to have a case hearing in many cases where a judge approves treatment for you or you die while the bureaucrats decide what tests to approve for ya. Ever experienced that buddy? I did.. and that is a nightmare. That is why I pay $700 a month to never experience this evil ever again. But I will speak about it if put on the spot..
As for debating on issues with your views I have and had no interests. You started it btw attacking me. I just pointed out few things to you and to those that maybe reading us. You even attack stef2011 here that helps everybody btw...
Guys, let's not let the evil one break our unity to fight against this disease. We are all equal human beings who have flaws one way or another. Let's not be judgmental but stand up together for the same clause ok? Make peace pls.. I hope I have not said too much here.
"I think you are the shill veteranB"
You mind telling who's shill I am? And who's services I promote on here?
I simply don't like evil. And don't like that some or some company takes advantage of our terrible situation to profit.
On the other hand you mr medical student send pm's to people with offers about this test and clinical trials secretly - thus you are recruiting without telling up front all the conditions that are attached.
I understand that these companies that send a student here think of us hbv patients as poor immigrants or low social economic groups that don't know any better and can't stand up for themselves, but they are wrong HBV does not discriminate and affects people of various social and economic status.
An honest and moral way would be for you to make a post here about these services that so and so company in California is offering > a surface antigen quant test in exchange for 700ml of blood each time you do the test. And nothing more.
But saying it up front does not sound very nice does it on an international public forum? Give almost a liter of blood for a test :) Any European would probably freak out if he would stumble on a proposition like that. What is next? Maybe some company would start trading medical services for body parts?
But, it is ok this is the US - health care here is a commercial product. So at least be open about it. Maybe to someone it will be ok getting $50 for donating blood and getting this test done. Because unfortunately there are some people are in dire and desperate situation because of HBV.
But a moral and straight forward way for Scantibodies Laboratories knowing the situation us HBV patients are in and how much we need this test would be to offer this test for pay too, or free to those that can't pay as well. Do a good human thing for a change.
You mind telling who's shill I am? And who's services I promote on here?
I simply don't like evil. And don't like that some or some company takes advantage of our terrible situation to profit.
On the other hand you mr medical student send pm's to people with offers about this test and clinical trials secretly - thus you are recruiting without telling up front all the conditions that are attached.
I understand that these companies that send a student here think of us hbv patients as poor immigrants or low social economic groups that don't know any better and can't stand up for themselves, but they are wrong HBV does not discriminate and affects people of various social and economic status.
An honest and moral way would be for you to make a post here about these services that so and so company in California is offering > a surface antigen quant test in exchange for 700ml of blood each time you do the test. And nothing more.
But saying it up front does not sound very nice does it on an international public forum? Give almost a liter of blood for a test :) Any European would probably freak out if he would stumble on a proposition like that. What is next? Maybe some company would start trading medical services for body parts?
But, it is ok this is the US - health care here is a commercial product. So at least be open about it. Maybe to someone it will be ok getting $50 for donating blood and getting this test done. Because unfortunately there are some people are in dire and desperate situation because of HBV.
But a moral and straight forward way for Scantibodies Laboratories knowing the situation us HBV patients are in and how much we need this test would be to offer this test for pay too, or free to those that can't pay as well. Do a good human thing for a change.
Go to Tijuana, get your Fibroscan and qHBsAg and stop complaining here about how you can't get these! Maybe your negative attitude is leading you down the path of resistance and causing people to shut doors of opportunity? Have you ever wondered why case managers or insurance companies give you trouble? Maybe it is because your attitude incites anger and fear?
Do yourself a favor, look up the definition of the word "rant". Now anyone can look at your post history and compare that with the definition. If I am wrong, readers can be the final arbiter.
Look, you can personally attack me all you want. Considering how well you know me, it doesn't really bother me. I'm sure it makes you feel pretty powerful though.
Do yourself a favor, look up the definition of the word "rant". Now anyone can look at your post history and compare that with the definition. If I am wrong, readers can be the final arbiter.
Look, you can personally attack me all you want. Considering how well you know me, it doesn't really bother me. I'm sure it makes you feel pretty powerful though.
The problem is is that nice talk does us patients here nothing. The fact is that HepB treatment program is really neglected in the US. Attitude of the doctors towards patients is awful. Look how angry they get.
So I think before teaching the rest of the world as to how too. Dr.Gish better focus on the US first so at least patients could have access to FibroScan and surface antigen quant test. That HepB infection would be by law considered a disability also would be nice.
But so far we see none of that. Because on one hand we have here the insurance companies blocking new procedures on the other big pharma drug companies steering the research the way they see best. Which slows down cure developments world because these same drug companies dominate other markets.
And doctors lobby here is also vicious. I was attacked like that by case managers from 2 past insurance companies. I think they teach them to be vicious. Because medicine has become a business. All ethics are out of the window - a company sees an opportunity to profit and they take it. Exposing this now is called bashing. And speaking about how amoral this is is called ranting. And that is coming from somebody that had mentioned something regarding North Korea. Well you man have the same kind of tolerance to truth as the norh korean leader.
Exchanging surface antigen quant test for 700ml of blood is equals to price gauging on food and water during natural disaster. Do you Get it djexpress? Do you get that this is amoral practise? Do you and that company get that peoples lives and treatment choices depend on that test. Shame on that company and shame on your medical school that will be sending out a doctor with that kind of mentality to see patients. To bad that that there is to many of you kind is out there.
So I think before teaching the rest of the world as to how too. Dr.Gish better focus on the US first so at least patients could have access to FibroScan and surface antigen quant test. That HepB infection would be by law considered a disability also would be nice.
But so far we see none of that. Because on one hand we have here the insurance companies blocking new procedures on the other big pharma drug companies steering the research the way they see best. Which slows down cure developments world because these same drug companies dominate other markets.
And doctors lobby here is also vicious. I was attacked like that by case managers from 2 past insurance companies. I think they teach them to be vicious. Because medicine has become a business. All ethics are out of the window - a company sees an opportunity to profit and they take it. Exposing this now is called bashing. And speaking about how amoral this is is called ranting. And that is coming from somebody that had mentioned something regarding North Korea. Well you man have the same kind of tolerance to truth as the norh korean leader.
Exchanging surface antigen quant test for 700ml of blood is equals to price gauging on food and water during natural disaster. Do you Get it djexpress? Do you get that this is amoral practise? Do you and that company get that peoples lives and treatment choices depend on that test. Shame on that company and shame on your medical school that will be sending out a doctor with that kind of mentality to see patients. To bad that that there is to many of you kind is out there.
All I can say what a nice human being you are. Is that how they teach new doctors these days?
Bashing a company? WHAT?
I simply said and pointed out how Scantibodies Labs exploits the situation that there is no surface antigen alisa quant available. That they trade a test for 700ml of blood each time so they can make test kits from our antibodies and sell them to profit. And this is taking advantage of the situation for a test that is available world wide and for long. So that is a first.
2. Dr.Gish sure is a good doctor. But how can he work and treat patients with no fibroscan and surface antigen quantitative test. How can he be ok with this if he is directly is in contact with the FDA.
US Hep B program is dead last behind Europe; Russia; China and India. We the patients get advice here from stef2011 that is far better and more helpful then you can get anywhere in California. From doctors btw that attend Dr.Gish conferences. And I have questions why is that.
You got exposed bro as to what you are doing on this forum and is why you are flipping out.
Let me just tell you a little secret mr nice guy. Hep b surface antigen and fibroscan is available in Mexico; just across the border in Tijuana. And for very cheap too. After I check the place out I will share the details with everybody openly too.
Bashing a company? WHAT?
I simply said and pointed out how Scantibodies Labs exploits the situation that there is no surface antigen alisa quant available. That they trade a test for 700ml of blood each time so they can make test kits from our antibodies and sell them to profit. And this is taking advantage of the situation for a test that is available world wide and for long. So that is a first.
2. Dr.Gish sure is a good doctor. But how can he work and treat patients with no fibroscan and surface antigen quantitative test. How can he be ok with this if he is directly is in contact with the FDA.
US Hep B program is dead last behind Europe; Russia; China and India. We the patients get advice here from stef2011 that is far better and more helpful then you can get anywhere in California. From doctors btw that attend Dr.Gish conferences. And I have questions why is that.
You got exposed bro as to what you are doing on this forum and is why you are flipping out.
Let me just tell you a little secret mr nice guy. Hep b surface antigen and fibroscan is available in Mexico; just across the border in Tijuana. And for very cheap too. After I check the place out I will share the details with everybody openly too.
Link to his talk:
http://www.projectsinknowledge.com/gastroenterology/hepatitis-b_VII.cfm?jn=2098&utm_source=activity-announcement&utm_campaign=HBV-Curriculum-VII-Promo&utm_medium=email-P2&utm_wave=1
http://www.projectsinknowledge.com/gastroenterology/hepatitis-b_VII.cfm?jn=2098&utm_source=activity-announcement&utm_campaign=HBV-Curriculum-VII-Promo&utm_medium=email-P2&utm_wave=1
Gish is very well known, he seems to keep up with the latest. For example, in one of his talks, he mentioned that doctors should be aware of qHBsAg because patients from outside the USA may have this assay done.
BTW,
I am a patient of Gish's because he is the best in So. Cal, not because I am "affiliated" with him. Quite the contrary. In fact, there are times that I wish I had another doctor, because some of the things Gish tells me seem to be falsehoods.
I am a patient of Gish's because he is the best in So. Cal, not because I am "affiliated" with him. Quite the contrary. In fact, there are times that I wish I had another doctor, because some of the things Gish tells me seem to be falsehoods.
I think you are the shill veteranB. But that is ok, you will never have your beloved HBsAg quant, because you are not willing to get with the program.
Personally, I would be mad too if others in California had gotten their HBsAg quant with as little as 10 ml of blood! I will not provide you with the name of the other company that does HBsAg quant in CA, because as per your m.o., you will end up bashing them when things don't go your way! Have fun waiting for things to go your way. And please be careful accusing people of things, as most times later you find they are not true and then you end up looking like a dummy.
Personally, I would be mad too if others in California had gotten their HBsAg quant with as little as 10 ml of blood! I will not provide you with the name of the other company that does HBsAg quant in CA, because as per your m.o., you will end up bashing them when things don't go your way! Have fun waiting for things to go your way. And please be careful accusing people of things, as most times later you find they are not true and then you end up looking like a dummy.
I thought so btw that you must be affiliated with Gish or that company that trades surface antigen test for 700ml of blood. That will be a good story for LA times ha?
That is why you are here pm-ing people privately about it. They send a medical student as always to do the work for them and recruit hbv cadavers.
Btw people this is how angry the doctors in US get when confronted with truth. Glad that this dude just exposed. Case closed. Continue on saying that tdf has no sides and you will be more entertaining.
That is why you are here pm-ing people privately about it. They send a medical student as always to do the work for them and recruit hbv cadavers.
Btw people this is how angry the doctors in US get when confronted with truth. Glad that this dude just exposed. Case closed. Continue on saying that tdf has no sides and you will be more entertaining.
Negative veteranB, no anxiety from TDF, just sick of hearing the same thing from certain people on these boards. You can say the same nonsense 100 times, and guess what? In the end, it's still nonsense.
"in fact the president sent me an email a few months ago saying that things should be approved within 3-4 years"
He replies to everybody..
p.s. I think you are heaving anxiety from TDF, you need a lower does. I had that on ETV 1mg > made me very jumpy and angry.. Antivirals have that effect on some people like Caffeine. When I went down to 0.5mg it got better.
He replies to everybody..
p.s. I think you are heaving anxiety from TDF, you need a lower does. I had that on ETV 1mg > made me very jumpy and angry.. Antivirals have that effect on some people like Caffeine. When I went down to 0.5mg it got better.
the big question, now that we know that Replicor has a cure, is what can we do about it. I am all for pushing replicor to release the drug, in fact the president sent me an email a few months ago saying that things should be approved within 3-4 years
plenty of studies are out showing that simvastatin clears surface antigen and also reduces chances of HCC.
Where are the results of that "known win" :)?
Known winner is something Replicor has there. The rest are depending on the person.
Known winner is something Replicor has there. The rest are depending on the person.
why do alinia and interferon ? Just add simvastatin to tdf, this is a known winner.
I see that you are a big believer in NUCs.. :) them along do very little for us. Prolong use is highly toxic of these agents. In me caused high blood pressure.. a known side effect.
bimpotz, go for the combo therapy.. or try to add Zadaxin to TDF,..
Also you may try Alinia + Interferon.. both of these decrease hbsag better then any nucs..
bimpotz, go for the combo therapy.. or try to add Zadaxin to TDF,..
Also you may try Alinia + Interferon.. both of these decrease hbsag better then any nucs..
HBsAg rise from 2,000 IU to 3313 IU is not significant, as HBsAg is known to fluctuate over time. In fact, theoretically HBsAg should drop little by little as the virus is no longer able to replicate due to NUCs.
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