Jackson: soc really only works on about 40 percent of geno 1 in 1 year, so if you had minimal damage why not wait 2 years to increase odds about 30 percent in half the time
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That's the stupidest thing I heard. I know that because I say that all the time but I'm stupid.
why would anyone treat without biopsy if they could have one considering soc really only works on about 40 percent of geno 1 in 1 year so if you had minimal damage why not wait 2 years increase odds about 30 percent in half the time lets see you have now told jim he is stupid desperate husband is a stupid coward if he does not leave wife when you now nothing of him happy to have experiance of hep lets see how happy you would be if treatment did not work or if did and turns out there is still lingring infection in your liver and ongoing fibrosis but you will never be able to understand any of that because you will probably clear in your 6 months i too have had this deasease since birth documented red cross traced back to 1958 6 body transfussions spent month in hospital at 8 over this it does not matter how one got this we our all in same fight i have treated to many times and probably wrong decision at times just maybe you our the stupid one or you have side effects and do not realize it
That feeling great you talk of sounds like there is a hint of low level Riba Rage coming out and is just about right on time. I have done and said some asinine things in the past two years but using the stupid word while feeding from the hand was not one of them. Lol
jasper
I want to add myself to the really stupid ones.... I insisted on wanting to have a biopsy, even though I am a geno 3 and had decided to treat right away. My 'clever' decision of treating right away was based on Stupid reasons... like I could financially afford to treat at this time, that it was actually a suitable time in my life to treat etc.
So it really doesn't matter, just treat without a biopsy. Even if you have decompensated cirrhosis, have no money at all, are too weak to treat at the moment, have no help or support group, or whatever. It's a no-brainer... just treat! NO MATTER WHAT... don't watch and wait. Even if you have hardly any damage. Don't wait for the new drugs, you should treat for twice the amount of time with a lower chance of beating this. If you don't beat it, treat again! The more exposure to the drugs, the better.
Okay.... enough of my Saturday ribacasm..... I just couldn't resist. I cannot even believe that we are having this nonsense debate here on the forum.
EVERYBODY should know that, if you can have a biopsy, have it! It is important to know the state of your liver. If for medical or other reasons, you cannot have one that is something different.
I also fall into the "stupid group" and I can't imagine how I've gotten this far. I must have lucked out despite my stupidity when I had my biopsy and weighed the pros and cons of treating upon diagnosis. I was additionally stupid when I looked at how treating may impact my life physically, financially and emotionally and whether it was absolutely necessary in my life at this time and how prepared was I in the event of catastrophe.
When I first arrived on this board I must really have been stupid and listened to some extremely wise advice given by older members who were never accusatory or judgmental despite my OBVIOUS BLUNDERS and certainly they never berated me. They gave me spot on, well researched, intelligent advise so in my humble opinion I will continue to stumble down my path of stupidity and heed the words of those older and wiser who speak of what they know.
Trinity
GK:....the only reason anyone should watch and wait is if they've failed tx already. Or the sides were too much for them to handle. That's my firm opinion. It's been proven that waiting doesn't help anyone in itself...So, if someone has just been diagnosed with hep c, then start treatment. Period... Choosing to wait when you don't even know how you'll react to the current meds is stupid.
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I guess we have a lot of "stupid" people here and I'll include myself as doubly stupid per your definition.
The "Watch n' Wait" versus "Treat Now" has been debated here numerous times and while I most certainly fall into the "Watch n' Wait" camp, I do respect many of the arguments presented by the "Treat Now's" and their variations, and hopefully many of them respect my arguments as well.
But in all due respect, I just have the feeling that you really haven't done your homework here so there's really nothing to discuss except you might find more respect here if you refrain from calling people names like "stupid". Personally, I don't care because I think it just makes you look that way for those who have put time into this subject.
Oh, and that "stupid" suggestion I made to you when you first started treating about increasing your riba to weight based -- since when do you listen to stupid people :)
-- Jim