Ketaconazole shampoo effective -1% over counter, 2% w RX, wash whole body, PATM will be gone for 1-2 days, then do again
I've just learned to accept what I was born with. I'm just looking for someone who is the same as I that at least we can get close to each other. I'm not depressed nor have anxiaety, but it would be nice to be able to get close to someone. Someone want to create a PATM dating site? Please
The latest preliminary results from the MeBO clinical research has made the claim by @Nsoz/patm_fighter false. @Nsoz claims PATM is a psychological problem but MeBO scientists have proven experimentally it’s a real medical condition. We know the truth now but how does that explain @Nsoz’s findings?
There’s only two possible reason for @Nsoz misinformation. Either @Nsoz is faking it or honestly have some other psychological problems that she believes is related to our medical condition. I don’t think she is faking it so I believe she’s just misinformed about our condition. There are hundreds of cases like this where sufferers would go into a forum and identify themselves with a condition they do not have. It’s a very serious and sad condition. There’s actually a name for this condition but I forgot what it is called.
For instance, in many cases of Morgellons, sufferers with normal skin conditions would go into Morgellons forums and argue with members about their condition as Morgellons. They’d only know that it is not so when they get cured with ordinary dermatitis cream.
We now know the cause of patm so we can forget about the delusional question once and for all. Please read my post to learn about what we know so far. In short PATM is caused by airborne toxins from the fermentation of food by gut microbes. Different microbes release different kind of toxins. It's not clear whether our gut is producing too much of it or liver is just failing to remove it caused by faulty or absent enzymes. Either way it builds up in the blood and ends up in our urine, sweat, breath, tears. There are articles on how one can remove toxins from the blood as much as possible. The best controllable way is to sweat by exercising and sauna but it won’t change the underlying problem. The type of gut microbial species and food eaten will determine what kind of toxins are produced. Therefore, it is of no coincident why probiotics, antibiotics and type of food eaten determines the severity of PATM.
Airborne toxins from our breath and sweat can interfere with other people’s innate immunity or cause inflammation by inhalation just as pathogens cause harm directly.
I see the pattern almost every person in this forum suffering PATM care about other too much (including my self).That is the cause for PATM too,I have become a little selfish and think about my self more for my own good and others and PATM is vanishing..
so what is the cure? Do people feel u thinking about it or I don't know, its horrible and I need help asap plz with the right response what do I do? What did helped u the most or within 4 days???
I feel bad for all of us, there are more than two types of this crap. One type is the oder type, think this is some type of intestinAL problem. And the other type from metals. I'm a plumber and exposed to metal dust from lead,cast iron to my full back tattoos of black ink.
Witch has metals. Creating a positive or negitive ion release
The opposite charge of a normal balance and feel the release of this crap and when it comes to nickel, the doctors are now reconizing people are alergic to certain metals in electronics ect. When doctors test for metals in blood, they are absent, because the metals leave the bloodstream and enter your muscles and fatty tissue as well as your skin. A skin by op
Is the key to see what's really going on. I believe a drip set up with iv might be the cure. They use this on lead poisoning.
Gonna get a doctor soon to do this. Tired of this crap. Also our water and cigarettes have heavy metals In them. These metals can actually get in your brain and using cell phones and electronics just keep the cycle in morion. I'm not a doctor be I have this crap and people say they have a cure but that is crap also. Had this **** years ago, was in jail for two weeks and went away on its own. Foods different, no smoking, no electronics or sun radiation.
Thinking the medical field dont want to touch this because the cure is to simple, and there no money to make curing this crap, but let us keep going to the doctors and paying bills for no answer. Next time I go I'm damaging what I want them to do.
Good luck and stay away from home remedies in this site, might be dangerous ***@****
OK you do not have a cure. It's not about someones thinking.
It's real and for you to post a I got a cure statement is wow messed up. It's real and comes in many forms. It's rare but becoming into the light. Hope a real cure is out there soon.
you are trying to tell us patm is in our heart right, you might be right but i guess somewhere somehow there is something wrong in our blood, thn we make it worse by overthinking.
Oops I also wanted to add that I do have Post Nasal Drip and allergies where I blow my nose and sneeze everyday so maybe I am reacting to myself too????
Oh and I forgot to say I have started to make my own Kombucha and drink that everyday which is suppose to be a good probiotic and good for the gut.
Just a little about myself and some thoughts on PATM. I am a female in my late 50's and have had PATM for 10 years or more on and off. It does seem to be worse when I drink alcohol a lot and am stressed.
It seems to have gotten worse as I have now even seen people around me when I am not in a closed room outside start rubbing their noses,eyes, sneezing and sniffling but no one really coughs. My friend that never seemed to react to me now gets really itchy eyes and nose and sneezes every time we get together. I can't have a relationship as anyone I date ends up having alergic reactions around me and either never calls again or I run away from the relationship so I don't have to explain and sound crazy telling them that I have PATM.
It is funny though that some people seem to have worse alergic reactions to me than others so not sure why that is?
I usually try to stop drinking for a day or two before flying and take a sedative or some sort to calm me down. If I don't the flight is hell with so many people around me constantly sniffling and violently sneezing for the whole trip.
I hate going to the Dentist or Doctor but I did have to go to the Dentist as I needed a root canal and a crown and find if the Dentist wears a mask they don't have reactions so I think it must be airborne. I have so much going on against me right now that I am so depressed with PATM, severe hot flashes every 20 minutes from Menopause and a drinking problem so I have turned into a recluse and hate leaving my home.
I have noticed that I do have a white coating on my tongue and have tried to get rid of it by using a tongue scraper after brushing my teeth but that doesn't do much. I have a suspicion that it is a Candida thing as I also get nail fungus all the time but that may be because my feet sweat, who knows?
As of yesterday I am at my wits end and am really, really trying to cut out alcohol and sugars and try and get healthy by exercising too. I have read quite a bit here and do take 1000 UI of Vit D3 but have just upped it to 2000 UI. I also have been prescribed an anti depression/anxiety drug that I hope will help me deal with my, sweating social anxiety and this PATM thing.
I really hope we can get some Cure to this debilitating problem we all share as I just cannot live like this!!!!
Have you guys experienced the dirty looks or some kind of acknowledgement from others regarding your patm? I see other members post where this is the main factor that seems to devastate them. It is also my case, but it doesn't seem everybody has experirnced it this way. Sometimes its a nasty look while other times its a friendly benevolent smile followed by a nod. I've noticed the smiles are more frequent with older people.
i have not tried that Sakir. I felt like this was some underlying problem that was gonna take something serious to get rid of it, but then again it could b a simple remedy that we have not tried. How are you doing now?? Any PATM symptoms since you have tried that soap?
As ı have not received any reply, I would like to ask have you ever tried argan oil soap both for your hair and your body. I am repeating this question, because after trying many things without success, argan oil soap might have cured my PATM. But, I am not %100 sure.
In all fairness though, i cannot ignore the fact that being happy and truly feeling at peace could very well be part of the solution, as i notice my PATM seems worse when im nervous. BUT, there is also the scientific side to this i believe. Incorporating the best practices of both these worlds im sure is are best bet for now.
I am my own ginny pig and will continue to be for the next yr probably as i continue researching and trying different solutions.
Yessss, an imbalance in your glands in the endocrine system, like a hormonal imbalance, or the waste that is caused by different parasites and bacteria. I noticed that my tongue has a thicker white coating than it ever has before, and it got this way soon as my PATM got worse. White coating is caused by bacteria and also by candida overgrowth. These are all things that i am working on and marking off the list. There are just many things that could be causing this, but as long as there are options and possibilities, i will try them all.
By what i have witnessed so far, I agree w you Keltic. I am 2 weeks new to this world, and im observing EVERYTHING. My family is always saying u never make us cough!? I didnt bother saying, but my immediate educated guess was that its probably cuz they were always around me. On the other hand, i am making ppl at work cough life crazy, being that i work with new ppl everyday. Also, im not nervous when im at my house. On my way to work i get more nervous the closer i get.
Yall are talking about energy and chakras and stuff. If I meditate and focus on my inner energy, am i going to be able to shoot lightning from my hands soon, or am i on the path to having telekinetic powers?? Like, wth is goin on here!!??
I just have a lot goin through my mind, sorry for all the long comments, hope yall understand.
Is this a candida thing maybe?? Im tired of vegetables and really wanna order a pizza tomorrow w my sis.
I have never needed to consult w others when i felt down. I have always been self reliant and good at cheering myself up, thats what music is for, but this is something i was not prepared for. I feel like i would be better off w cancer cuz at least it is known, and u have a shot of beating it. PATM is just one big mystery that will probably never be solved...at least not in my lifetime. If it is, it wont be by doctors, itll be by people like us.
I'm hoping to make a few friends on here that I can have for support cuz this is so unreal to me right now and im in a state of shock. Everyday at work now is rough, especially when i have to go to my meetings blahhhhh. I am going to be working from home soon, so that will help while im trying all these remedies. I just need to make it long enough w/out getting fired lol.
So please, reach out to me if ya can, i just want ppl who understand me cuz my family thinks im crazy now. My sis told me to prove it to her, so tomorrow we are goin out n about, and I hope for some dumb reason the PATM switch doesnt get turned off. Maybe cuz she will be next to me i might feel more comfortable and therefore not have the reactions i want her to see? Idk, but if it goes like today, she will definitely be a believer.
Whats up yall, I just came to realization that I have PATM as of 2 weeks ago. As of 2 days ago I didnt even know there was a name for it. I know it was made up by people like us and not by professionals, but still it has a name. I am finding more and more relief w this forum. Seems like the more tenured ppl with PATM are depending now on more spiritual type remedies and inner peace and all that, and the other folks are busting their butts trying to find scientific explanations and cures.
I couldn't have asked for a better life. I have a great paying job, tons of friends, and i get to practice my greatest quality everyday at work, my ability to socialize w dozens of new ppl everyday and network.
I am truly devastated now. I talk to nobody but family, and a handful of friends. I'm walking on eggshells at work cuz my adherence has declined dramatically. People everyday come to me w smiles, notice i am not really in the mood to talk, and just end up walking back to where they came from
Today was the worse day at work for me ever. I walked many long halls where hundreds of ppl are, and put this PATM to the test. I couldn't believe that this ridiculous PATM is real. I was shocked to see that numerous ppl, all at once, started coughing. This was happening even up to 30-35 ft away instantly. Bad breath doesn't travel that fast. So i figure it has to be something else. Like others claim in this community, It seems to be worse when you are nervous.
Im not ready to run w this spiritual thing quite yet. I feel like I owe it to myself to try as hard as i can to get my life back to normal. I have put in hrs of research, and have packages of probiotics, supplements, i have already cleansed my intestines and liver and am currently doing 2 candida cleanses, cut out all sugars, grains, dairy, alcohol, carbs and processed foods. I have lost 20 pounds in 3 weeks. I will be trying a dewormer that was suggested soon. I have noticed that my skin has cleared up, no more muscle spasms, no more flakey dry skin on my face, and other things that are showing good signs. Today though, it was terrible.
Its weird though how this problem seems to thrive off of certain emotions, especially nervousness. Today when i would walk in a room, i could feel my energy sweep through the whole frickin room, and bam, there came the coughs. I walked by this sexy lady comin down the escalator, i knew she would feel my funk, as i could feel this energy or vibe just fly through her. Yep, she started coughing instantly.
Man has my life changed, im just not sure how this is going to pan out.
have any of you guys tried argan oil soap both for your body and hair? This might be working. Please try it and share your experience with us here. It is not an expensive soap, worth a try.
So envious of you, about mentioned the changes you make on yourself had made everything around you change.
I've tried before, but things may not as per what I expected.
Maybe I not yet get the exact way or what.
The changes I observed from people around me, is they realised that I was unhappy, & they just try to avoid minimize showing some of their usual avoiding reactions on purpose. Still, it's another reminder.
But what can I do? I can only change my beliefs. Will keep going. =)
Good to hear that you are getting better. Always keep in mind, all things happening to us we can accept and learn from it, or can regret and dwell on it. Just gotta love and accept everything, including ourselves and others.
My flaw was that I always tend to make things all in my point of view, and missed my past. It resulted in depression because I could never have what I wanted. But guess what? Once I changed, everything around me changed. So yea, we can all do this.