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Circumcision/ear piercing
I've seen many posts on here about circumcision and all the responses both for and against it.
I was just curious about ear piercing with little girls. So many are against circumcision, and say to let them decide as they get older...but what about piercing a baby girl's ears? Or a little boy's ears. Although the reasoning behind the two differ, are you not still altering your child's appearance for yourself?
***Let's keep it clean ladies, the last post I had up that had any kind of ability to stir up conflict went well. I hope we can keep this one the same way!***
I was just curious about ear piercing with little girls. So many are against circumcision, and say to let them decide as they get older...but what about piercing a baby girl's ears? Or a little boy's ears. Although the reasoning behind the two differ, are you not still altering your child's appearance for yourself?
***Let's keep it clean ladies, the last post I had up that had any kind of ability to stir up conflict went well. I hope we can keep this one the same way!***
I personally have a son, who IS circumcised. Now 28 weeks pregnant with a daughter, but I would not pierce her ears. I was allowed to make that choice at 12 years of age, and chose to do so, but I wouldn't make that decision for her.
I think its really up to the parents on this one, its whatever you feel comfortable with as a family. No one should be ridiculed or condemned on either account...whether it be circumcising or not....ears pierced or not. There is no "right" or "wrong" answer to this post. To each there own. Tomato, Tamato.
Personally my 4.5 month old is circumcised because his daddy is, that's what worked best for us as a family. With the ear piercing i think its dang cute when baby girls have their ears pierced but i think i'll wait until my little girl is old enough to decide if she wants it done.
Personally my 4.5 month old is circumcised because his daddy is, that's what worked best for us as a family. With the ear piercing i think its dang cute when baby girls have their ears pierced but i think i'll wait until my little girl is old enough to decide if she wants it done.
I personally do not want to pierce my daughters ears because it should be their choice if they want that, but DF is obsessed with the idea so we probably will. If I ever had a son, he wouldn't be circumcised just because I've done enough research on it and have found it to be unnessesary in my family. If he wants it done in the future, he can make that choice. He might remember the pain, but it hurts the same as an infant or adult and if we can subject a baby to it, I believe an adult can easily go through it as well.
I think it's cute but if I had a daughter I'd wait till she was older (7 or 8, like I was when I decided I wanted my ears pierced.) to get her ears pierced. (Dh and I did get our boys circ'ed though. From what we were told and have read it's 10 x's more painful to get circumsised as an adult than an infant.)
I personally could care less either way, I dont think it makes a big deal or not to do the boy as an infant or making him wait until hes an adult...I did however have my son circumsized..
As far as the ear piercing goes, ah either way, I had my daughters done as an infant, but, my DH made his daughters wait until they were older..I think it is totally up to the parent on that..I will tell you the main reason I did my daughters that young. is that way it would be healed and she wouldnt mess with them. And, I do plan on piercing my newest daughters ears as soon as she gets a little older...
But, like I said I kind of like this subject...and dont worry SMJ it shouldnt stir up any controversy, I feel that to each his own on this..
As far as the ear piercing goes, ah either way, I had my daughters done as an infant, but, my DH made his daughters wait until they were older..I think it is totally up to the parent on that..I will tell you the main reason I did my daughters that young. is that way it would be healed and she wouldnt mess with them. And, I do plan on piercing my newest daughters ears as soon as she gets a little older...
But, like I said I kind of like this subject...and dont worry SMJ it shouldnt stir up any controversy, I feel that to each his own on this..
Personally, I used to feel very strongly about waiting to have my daughter's ears pierced unitl she was old enough to understand that it would hurt and still make the decision to do so herself. I WISH I had never backed down on that! I succumbed to a friend of minewho convinced me to do it when she was a baby because she wouldn't even remember it. Her ears were pierced when she was one-and a-half. Well, my daughter had one snagg on a crocheted pillow a little over a year ago :o( We didn't think any harm was done (and maybe it wasn't then, we're not sure). Then last year she came back from visitiation with her dad and I noticed that it looked like the thing was embedded in her earlobe, like sunken-in in front. So I took it out and it looks like the earring gradually tore down, so instead of a small hole she had a slit with the top part already healing over. Now her earrings are not symmetrical... the one is (and probably always will be) lower than the other :o( Poor thing. That confirms my decision that my second baby girl will NOT be getting her ears pierced until she is much older! I feel awful.
I'm letting my daughters decide if they want their ears pierced once they turn 8. I think it would be something special that they decide they want and the excitement of getting it done is something I wouldn't take away. Not to mention I've seen so many ear piercing jobs on babies that were crooked later in life.
God stupid phone! I've type to long comments twice so here's the short version.
Circumcision- me- no he shld choose after he feels how it is sexually(bad ik) DB- says yes he isn't says its a pain.
Ears- up to them at age 5 let them get personality first!
Circumcision- me- no he shld choose after he feels how it is sexually(bad ik) DB- says yes he isn't says its a pain.
Ears- up to them at age 5 let them get personality first!
I say wait with the ears as well, for several reasons.
~Some daycares do not allow them for safety reasons.
~They are a choking hazard. A poster on the MC forum described finding the earring lose in the crib by the sleeping baby's face.
~The baby won't remember the pain, but that doesn't mean she won't feel it :( Can you imagine if we used that excuse to justify doing other things to babies?
~She may not appreciate it when she's older! I have a hole in each ear that I do not use nor would have put there if I had a choice.
~They often have to be redone when older, as in the case of my sister.
~Some daycares do not allow them for safety reasons.
~They are a choking hazard. A poster on the MC forum described finding the earring lose in the crib by the sleeping baby's face.
~The baby won't remember the pain, but that doesn't mean she won't feel it :( Can you imagine if we used that excuse to justify doing other things to babies?
~She may not appreciate it when she's older! I have a hole in each ear that I do not use nor would have put there if I had a choice.
~They often have to be redone when older, as in the case of my sister.
I don't have a son (I have 1 daughter and I am pregnant with my 2nd daughter), but if I ever do he will definitely be circumcised. That is our personal preference. I know a lot of people these days who are anti-circ, but I don't know any of them personally.
My daughters will be allowed to get their ears pierced for their 5th birthdays. This is just a family tradition. I believe a 5 year old is old enough to help take care of their earrings and I think that is important!
My daughters will be allowed to get their ears pierced for their 5th birthdays. This is just a family tradition. I believe a 5 year old is old enough to help take care of their earrings and I think that is important!
I don't have a little girl. However, I have 2 sisters, and between the two of them ,they have 5 girls. All of my nieces ears were pierced when they were between 1 month and 3 months old. They don't play with them (much lower risk of infection), and not one of them was angry with my sisters for making this decision. My nieces are now 22 years old (twins) 16 y/o, 12 y/o, and 13 y/o. I think it is a personal decision and really all about what your comfortable with. Another reason I know my sister had the twins ears pierced is beacause they were bald, and she was sick of people asking if they were boys or girls. =)
Oh, and for the circumcision question. My son is circumcised, and if I ever have any more boys, they will ABSOLUTELY be circumcised. I am Jewish and it is part if my faith.
Boys will be circumcised bc of our religion (Jewish) and as for ears when they are old enough to care for them themselves but bc of private Jewish schooling prefer they didn't at all.
I'm not reading all the responses, I will just tell you how WE handle things.
We have had BOTH of our sons circumcised...their dad is and we also didn't want to set them up for ridicule in locker rooms. We feel that a circumcision is not only easier to maintain hygiene wise but is also more aesthetically pleasing. That's probably going to p!ss some people off that I said that but oh well.
As for earrings, well I think girl babies with pierced ears are darn cute but I prefer not to pierce my girls ears until they are atleast 5 years old. This gives them the opportunity to make the decision for themselves.
I have no problems with other people piercing their sons ear(s) but I personally do not want my sons to have it done.
We have had BOTH of our sons circumcised...their dad is and we also didn't want to set them up for ridicule in locker rooms. We feel that a circumcision is not only easier to maintain hygiene wise but is also more aesthetically pleasing. That's probably going to p!ss some people off that I said that but oh well.
As for earrings, well I think girl babies with pierced ears are darn cute but I prefer not to pierce my girls ears until they are atleast 5 years old. This gives them the opportunity to make the decision for themselves.
I have no problems with other people piercing their sons ear(s) but I personally do not want my sons to have it done.
I am amazed by how many people believe in their girls right to choose but do not offer the same consideration to their boys. Babies both male and female are born perfect and need NO altering, be in ear piercing or circumcision.
The reason why I'm curious mostly is because I see so many people knock down others because of circumcision, even for religious purposes...I'm just curious as to what the people against circumcision say about ear piercing.
Ya. With ear piecing(now that I'm not working)
I said they should have the right to choice BUT I see the reasons ppl do it. Like I sister got my oldest neice done as soon as she was old enough bc ppl thought she was a boy. And ppl think it'll be easier on them when they are young(like circumcision) but what if your girl isn't girly? I think they should be allowed to get their own personality first. As for if my boy wanted it done. Again that would be his choice but I'd pry make him wait till he's a little older to prevent him from getting made fun of.
I said they should have the right to choice BUT I see the reasons ppl do it. Like I sister got my oldest neice done as soon as she was old enough bc ppl thought she was a boy. And ppl think it'll be easier on them when they are young(like circumcision) but what if your girl isn't girly? I think they should be allowed to get their own personality first. As for if my boy wanted it done. Again that would be his choice but I'd pry make him wait till he's a little older to prevent him from getting made fun of.
I dont have kids yet but the circumcision I think should be the hubbys choice he understands more as a male and whats going on me personally my hubby is Hispanic doesnt believe in that so i wont be do it if and when the time comes i Ear piercing however i think should be done young i have allergies to earring and yes i know every1 has said why put ur LO through that but me i would want it to be cleared and done with then if they choose NOT to wear earrings then thats fine but i wouldnt want them to suffer as i did! i already read the comment yes im allergice to earring NO wouldnt want my daughter suffering but if i now know the problem i can take care of it now and not make them suffer if they do want them!
I'm all for circumcision. In fact they can't really make that decision as they get older as it's far too painful and the skin is too thick that nearly all doctors will not touch it after about 6 months. As a baby the skin is so thin that it doesn't hurt. However I'm currently 35.5 weeks pregnant with a girl and I'm not sure if we are going to pierce her ears. I would love to but I think it might be painful and I'd hate to see my baby girl in pain even if it's a quick process. I think we will let her decide when she is old enough.
im against circumcision and ears im not sure.. my mom got mine done at 3 months...i was with my friend to get her daughters done at 8 months and it was sad-i wouldnt wanna hurt my baby that way but while i was at the hairdressers they were piercing a lil girl.. about 7-8's ears.. it was her bday and she had wanted it for years.. she was soo excited...After they did the first one however.. she cried soooooo much and did not want the second hole done...its tough decision and i think comes to each their own..i think its cute seeing a lil girl with lil earings but i dont know if i would...
I agree with goku..our husband has a better understanding than we do so I think that the choice to circumcise should be up to them. my husband DID decide to circumcise our son which I'm fine with...he knows better than I do what it feels like to be a my-parents-chose-for-me male...who am I to act like I understand?
at any rate...I got my ears pierced when I started my period as a coming-of-age rite-of-passage...my mom said it would mark me becoming a woman. I think that's such a cool way to do it and I plan to do the same with my daughter if she wants hers done.
at any rate...I got my ears pierced when I started my period as a coming-of-age rite-of-passage...my mom said it would mark me becoming a woman. I think that's such a cool way to do it and I plan to do the same with my daughter if she wants hers done.
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