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Protected oral and vaginal encounter with 2 csw

Hello there,

Last Thursday I had one encounter with 2 girls from Brazil (csw appointment). I was very interessted in topic threesome topic not knowing that it doesnt need to be a good idea. The encounter was protected. First there was a rubbing againt buttcheeks or buttcrack, not getting anywhere near her anus or vagina (giant behind). one of the girls putted the condom on with her mouth and the deed started missionary and from behind. than for other girl the condom was switched and between these two condoms I got handjob with maybe some saliva and maybe some vaginal fluid (not sure, but lets say like that). after second girl again I got handjob (again lets presume there was saliva and vaginal fluid), rubbing against their bodies a little bit,not pubic on pubic area. no deep kissing. one of the girls licked my ear. One of girls had some scars and bruises in heep of the body. It looked like a burning skin or something not related to anything since as far as I know. There could occur some slight fingering from my side (ass and *****) for a few seconds or something like that. Two days after I slept with my girl unprotected oral and vaginal who appears to be pregnant(5th week). After sex with her (and she has HPV - genital warts from before) I started to panic because of the herpes, syphilis and HPV, but I guess she will deal with that. I am always full of anxiety and therefore I took condoms and checked them at home. 100% intact. For other things, such as hiv, hep etc I am pretty sure I am risk free. In no second my nacked pubic area rubbed their. Now I dont know if its anxiety or not, but after two days after I slept with my girl I got this feeling that I go peeing ofter than I was and feeling that I could always pee and not all urine is out(I guess it could be some UTI non regarded, right?). I guess no simptoms could occur in 2 days regarding this encounter. So...Whats the possibility that I picked up herpes and syphilis from the encounter mentioned above and after two days (not even fully 48h) to pass it to my girl and baby. I think my anxiety is way out of proportion. Please give me some truth here, since I am freaking out. I dont know what to do anymore. Thanks in advance.
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And is the syphilis, hsv transmission possible after 2 days from infected person that has no simptoms whatsoever? I guess that testing is not warranted! I didnt do this kind of stupidity for a veeeeryyyyyy long time...  I deeply regret this.
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I think you are asking if symptoms after 2 days is possible?

For herpes, yes. Syphilis, no. For syphilis, symptoms need to be present to transmit.

It's really, really unlikely that you'd get anything while wearing a condom.

I think this is anxiety and guilt, and I think your anxiety is out of proportion to the risk involved.
I wont be bugging you anymore, I promise! I presume that it would take a lot of rubbing with mostly naked genital pubic area in order to catch syphilis and hsv. The thing is, since I was protected and none of the condoms were intake plus I am unshaved (sorry for my language) I guess not so big surface of the pubic area or skin was present to be infected. I will sleep with my wife with protection (no oral at all) at least for next 3 months. Does it seem like a good plan???
I don't know why you're waiting 3 months?

You had very little risk. You can test for syphilis at 6 weeks, though I see no reason why you need to, and if you have no symptoms of herpes by 20 days, I wouldn't worry about it.

Really, your risk is very low.

If it makes you feel better to use protection for 3 months, than do that, but I don't see a big need for it.
@auntiejessi Thank you very much!
You're welcome. :)
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Thank you for your brief answer. I will read threads. I wont go ever again outside the relationship. She had hpv before and got rid of that, now they appear again. My water intake is disaster to be honest. I am not drinking enough water at all. Maybe it makes some difference - I asked girls about the status, and they said that they never ever do penetrative sex without a protection. Do you think it would be ok for me to continue sleeping with my wife??? I will never do this again. Do you think my level of anxiety is way out of proportion?
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So first, there is no risk from handjobs, even with fluids present. I'll include some links at the end that explain why.

Rubbing can be a risk if it is heavy grinding or rubbing, like the kind you have when you have intercourse. If it's just light or brief, it's really not likely to transmit anything.

The possibility for herpes, syphilis and HPV are really low because it was all protected. Also, none of those would cause UTI-like symptoms 48 hours later. Syphilis and HPV would never cause that, and herpes only would if you had internal sores. You wouldn't get symptoms of syphilis for at least 10 days, and HPV for at least a month. Condoms offer significant protection against all of those.  

How's your water intake? You might just be dehydrated. If you've had a lot of alcohol or caffeine, that can irritate the bladder, causing symptoms similar to a UTI. Increase your water, decrease the others, and see how you feel.

How long has your regular partner had HPV? Does she currently have symptoms? Most people clear the virus within 2 years, so if she hasn't had symptoms or an abnormal pap smear within 2 years, she's probably cleared the virus.

If your partner is pregnant, and you go outside the relationship again, it is VITAL that you use condoms. An STI now can really affect the pregnancy.


Here are some posts from our experts (when we had them) that may help regarding handjobs -

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Nervous-about-mutual-masturbation/show/2183476

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Mutual-Masturbation-STD/show/1968429

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/mutual-masturbation-sti/show/1858544

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Understanding-the-risks-of-mutual-fingering/show/1516796

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Vaginal-fluid-on-hand-touched-inside-of-condom-and-head-of-penis/show/1119533 - read this thread thoroughly. There is an excellent explanation about why certain activities are not risks, and why others are.
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