thyroid results

[foxy251]

Hi can any one tell me if me thyroid results are good or bad, here they are T4 116, nmol/L59-154, TSH, 1.04,miu/L 0.27-4.2.FREE THYROXINE 16.1,pmol/L 12.0- 22.0,FREE T3,4.4,pmol/L3.1-6.8. any help would mean so much to me, thanks Susan


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[gimel]

If you want some good material with which to sway your doctor, you should be able to make good use of this.  By the way , the author is the same one that I quoted above.  Note the huge number of references to scientific data supporting all his positions.

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/S4_PublicPetitionsCommittee/General%20Documents/PE1463_C_Dr_Henry_Lindner_07.03.13.pdf

[foxy251]

Thanks for your help Gimel, my doctor dose not want to know so I went private and still go no further, at least not yet. Thanks again

[gimel]

The number one most important thing to consider is symptoms.  You have symptoms that are frequently associated with hypothyroidism.  Secondly, your Free T4 and Free T3 results are too low in the range.  I say that because the ranges are far too broad to be functional for everyone.  Many of our members find that symptom relief required Free T3 in the upper part of its range, and Free T4 around the middle of its range.  If you read the words of a good thyroid doctor, as follows, and interpret what he says, so that you can relate to the ranges from your lab, you will see that your labs interpret as hypo.

"The free T3 is not as helpful in untreated persons as the free T4 because in the light of a rather low FT4 the body will convert more T4 to T3 to maintain thyroid effect as well as is possible. So the person with a rather low FT4 and high-in-range FT3 may still be hypothyroid. However, if the FT4 is below 1.3 and the FT3 is also rather low, say below 3.4 (range 2 to 4.4 at LabCorp) then its likely that hypothyroidism is the cause of a person's symptoms."

I know that getting treatment with those labs poses a special problem, since you are in the clutches of the NHS, and they only want to use TSH to diagnose and treat patients.  You might like to see the approach that had to be taken by a fellow UK member, in order to get thyroid med prescribed, when her TSH was being used as a roadblock to treatment.


"What I have learned from my experience is that you have to go to the Dr's office and TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT and to go backed up with knowledge.  You have to tell them that you have done your reading and looked into your condition and care about the long-term treatment of your health and thyroid.  If you fight for what you want, you will eventually find someone that is happy to go along with your wishes.  But we all have to take charge of our own health, right?"

So what you really need is for a doctor to treat you clinically, by testing and adjusting Free T3 and Free T4 as necessary to relieve symptoms, without being constrained by resultant TSH levels.  Symptom relief is all important, not just lab results.  Some UK members still have had no success fighting with the NHS to get clinical treatment, and had to go private.

Hypo patients are frequently too low in the range for Vitamin D, B12, mg and ferritin.  So, it would be a good idea to test for those as well.  

Please stay in touch with new developments and we will provide any supporting scientific info needed to impress the doctor, and we will be glad to help interpret any additional test results.

[foxy251]

Not as far as I know. I was taking vitamin b tablets, but they were stopped a few months ago.

[gimel]

Sorry, I left out the word unless.  Should have read, "So  unless thyroid test results are extreme, they should be judged as "good or bad" primarily in relation to how you feel."

  Have you been tested for Vitamin D, B12 and ferritin?  If so, please post those results, along with ranges.  

[foxy251]

Hi , I have gained lots of weight, started to feel sleepy a lot, have pains in my legs, back, hips and some times burning felling in my legs all the time. Some times I get a sharp pain in my throat.

[gimel]

Everyone is different regarding optimal thyroid hormone levels.  Plus, there are many factors that can affect how thyroid hormone is metabolized.  So  thyroid test results are extreme, they should be judged as "good or bad" primarily in relation to how you feel.  What, if any, symptoms do you have?