How Much Testosterone is Too Much

[scottsdaleprincess]

Hi, my husband has been on testosterone injections for two years. It has been a pure living hell. The doctors have experimented with him with different levels. He is currently taking 50mg of the testosterone injections twice a week. His total testosterone as of the last lab draw was 750 on the third day. The shots have completely changed his personality, like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He is now really moody and mean and this is not who he truly is. It has been a horrible roller coaster ride. He is going back to the doctor this week to discuss this, but he really does not see that he has any problems with this. Have you seen other people on the shots that have such a traumatic change in personality? What is a good level where a man still has a sex drive but doesn't act like a cave man?

[Lexie1996]

Wow! I am so amazed at the similarities I have been experiencing with my husband of 22 years!!    He is 50 and has been acting crazy angry and everything is about sex, even though we have great intimacy (when he is not an ***). Today I was contacting attorneys to prepare for divorce.
Then I discovered a STASH of testosterone and needles. I do not know where he got it, but not thru a doctor, just self administering.  I kept thinking he was going crazy, our teen daughters will not speak to him and want us to divorce.
I have noticed he has been very energetic and chatty with everyone.  He has always been very muscular, hairy and sexual so I have no idea why he would mess with his T levels.  I'm sure he heard a radio commercial or something on the internet.  Nothing speaks about the anger and mood side effects.  It has been a nightmare.  He has threaten suicide to the point of having a gun.  It was awful, but I had no idea that he was using testosterone.
Although I have to say the sex was good, but absolutely not worth the hell if  his daily quota was not met, he would go into a rage screaming at me.  Then of course who wants to be with a man like that.  Then a week later he would be so sweet and charming.  I am assuming it was due to the T levels.  This post has given me hope that he will return to the NORMAL man I love,  not that he is perfect but never so mean and angry.  We have always been best friends and work together successful everyday, so it has been so sad.
Of course I disposed of the evil drug, sounds like it may take awhile for his system to restore.
Praying for him and our family!

[shortgirl1979]

I understand what you are talking about my husband has been taking it for a year and he has been moody and mad and four day ago I went to see my parent and he told me he want a divorce and he want to be alone and single after 13 year of marriage he willnt talk to me are anything and I don't know what to do but he want to be friend  I'm lost on all of this  

[counterexample]

I am 31 years old, I have been on TRT for 2.5 years now and have not had any of the problems that are being described in here.  The only side effect I've really had to deal with is a bit of acne here and there.  

What I suspect a lot of you are dealing with is related to one of two things:  One could be the injections are not frequent enough so there is a roller-coaster effect of highs and lows depending on how far from the injection the man is.  I take 50mg twice a week and I am stable and so much happier than I was with low T.  The other could be that the doctor is not properly (or at all) managing estradiol levels.  Testosterone is converted to estrogens through a process called aromatization.  Some men require an additional drug called an aromatase inhibitor to help keep estrogen levels down.  One thing that can drive this need is excess fat.  Fatty tissue is loaded with aromatse enzymes so more fat = more estrogen.  I am pretty lean and do not require an aromatase inhibitor on my dose.  

The main thing that you really need to be doing is getting bloodwork done and staying on top of this stuff especially in the early going while things get dialed in.  Best of luck to everyone.  Testosterone therapy has been a major improvement in my life and I'm sorry that it is not working out as well for many of you!!  

[Sylph48]

I'm 9 months into a live in relationship with a man I am in love with deeply. He has been on testosterone for many years and the week of the injection I walk on egg shells. He is on a 2 week regiment. He is verbally abusive and tells me he can't stand to look at me. In the 9 months 3 big arguments and his answer is to walkout on the relationship then decides he's been an *** . In devedtsted. As a highly educated woman with a high profile career I have never encountered such abuse from a hormone.

[LinnyB04]

Hi Miles. Thank you so much for posting this! My husband is a different person since being on the T therapy. How long have you been doing it this way? Long term effects? Also have heard it doesn't absorb as well when injected into the fat. Thanks so much for your help.

[Charger116]

I never wanted my husband to start testosterone therapy.  He had low t but was starting because he wanted a better work out. It has turned into 3 years of nightmares. Married almost 22 years and I just found a least 4 ****** he's been having an affair with all at the same time, including a secretary 15 years younger than him at work. I had no idea why he was acting the way he was. He was screwing them in the back of his work van that his daughter and I were in all the time. He refused to get tested at first standing by all his ****** saying they didn't give him anything.  He finally got tested...he gave me stds. I think he still feels justified in all he did, that he deserved these ******. Meanwhile our children and myself are shattered. He refuses to talk about any of it. He continues to lie and keep his secrets. I talked to 2 of the married ****** that placed ads on craigslist and got my husband. He told them he loved them and was with them all for a long time and told them he was only with mr because our youngest of 4 needed both parents. They all thought they were the only one.  News flash! I thought I was the only one. I know I have to file for divorce because he just wants me to keep my mouth shut and move on like nothing happened all while he had loads of fun. He's off the testosterone since April but it took months to get out of his system.  He was injecting 3/4 ml every week. He was taking naked pictures and sending them to all these ****** that he screwed. He was still secretly with them up until August but telling me there wasnt anyone. He should have left me! That's what I tell him. I had no idea he was in love with all these people. I was a good wife. Testosterone ruining our life and made a good man a scumbag.

[Overmyhead77]

Im so sorry my husband has not gone that deep into rabbit hole but if he doesnt stop soon I can see it..

[Rag58]

Hi
After finding out I was way low in the t department I got testapel implants. It was a game changer for me. Realize that a man who has been low for a long time is not used to the feeling. It is like being a teenager again only teenagers get a write off because well they are teen agers. Now I am not in a relationship so I don't know how I might appear to others, but my co worker noticed me smiling joking and being happier than I had been in a long time.
  The testosterone is a good thing believe me, someone who is not a jerk will not start acting out unless in fact he really is a jerk and now feels the energy to express what an *** they are. Awareness is the thing, he is your husband and that is valuable so talk together like equals. If he chooses to continue to act like an *** that is a choice and not because of testosterone. There is a wide range of testosterone levels considered "normal" 500 is a good place to be not to high not to low. Also if he is converting some of it in to estrogens then he is getting to much and this will cause man boobs and moodiness.
  Main thing I want to say is find the guy you loved in there and ask him what's going on, does he value what you guys worked so hard to build. If so he has got to get a grip. So in a way I am saying you have to man up and meet his new masculinity head on.
  I hope that was helpful.

[Miles1638]

I truly have your solution. All of the patient wife's please hold on to your husband. My life is finally saved as well as my wife's life. But, it took losing everything dear. So please listen and don't go through what we did. I had a tumor discovered in 2000. It had caused hypogonadism which in turn made my testosterone levels 12 at the age of 28. Testosterone is vital to a mans body. In so many ways. The lack of testosterone can cause as many problems as the spike. You will shorten your life and you pleasure of life without it. That's before we even talk about sex. Without it a man will lose 40 percent of his muscle mass with no other indications. That will immediately trigger a 30 percent weight gain or more. By no choice of the man. The mood swings that are related are not even known by men suffering from this issue. If any of them are like me and so many I have found they had no idea the harm they wer causing. In fact after only one year on traditional testosterone I went from a loving husband to a wild mean man. I literally lost my memory for the largest part of 12 years. For some reason I was able to function at work and even excell. But at home I am told I was a different person than my wife married. Well in 2010 I started to catch glimpses of how bad it had gotten. I mad every effort known to man to become a better husband and man. And I thought I did. Later I found out that I was only this man when I was in the center of the dosing schedule. But my wife had already written us off. She had started an emotional affair. In 2012 I caught her face book screen and it came to light that she was unhappy and I had been this horrible man for years. Well she is still responsible for what she did. She broke our marriage vows and my heart. You see I was the same man inside as I was in 1999. I had very little knowledge or recollection of any bad deeds. So in my mind she was the devil. Well she had done the most horrible thing I could imagine. But I came to find out that I indeed had become this person I didn't know. I had taken a very long vacation. I immediately went to work on courses in anger management and she worked on her side to get teenaged in the marriage. Although things improved the Jekyll and Hyde shortly returned. I became depressed when she shared with me to a point I had a total nervous breakdown. While in this state, we hired all the best doctors money could buy. We engaged the medical system and dared them to fix whatever was wrong. Well one by one we hired and fired doctors. We ended up with a group of 7 that are work renowned. Every kind of displine. It was determined it was not mental, but the break down was. In the end this group narrowed it down to my massive sensitivity to testosterone schedules. I was entered in what at that point was a trial and is now commonly practiced. DAILY SUBCUTANIOUS TESTOSORONE CYPRONATE LIFE LONG THERAPY. I USE A DIABETIC NEEDLE AND INJECT IN THE FATTY AREA IN MY HIP, LEG, STOMACHED, OR ANYWHERE ELSE .12 of TESTOSORONE at 6:30 am EVERY SINGLE DAY. Our life's changed day by day for 16 months until I am better than I ever was and maintain an 800 level with no aggression.
You see the human body starts producing the hormone at about 6:30 am and slows to a trickle at night time. They mimicked the body. This ever two weeks or gels or all the other methods never did this. Yes it's a little prick. But grow up boys. What if you were diabetic. Total cash cost 60.00 per month including supplies. And our marriage is better and I am the man she married. I have shared this with dozens of others and watched the same transformation. I read these posts and thought of my poor wife all those years. Don't stop taking it. Take it the right way. We spent 200,000.00 cash to learn this. As insurance only wants to pay for what didn't work. The doctors we hired half we researchers at the major universities. We spent the money. Now go demand that your doctors quit either padding the pharmacuticals pockets or just being un able to treat something they don't understand. Yes we are wealthy. But all that money didn't fix our marriage. Hard work and the proper inexpensive treatment did. Use our experience. And don't go off anything. You will lose so much. Why? When there is a proper way. The way the body does it. No highs and lows. And NO ******* HUSBANDS. OR DISAPPEARING GOOD MEN.