Here and there in my many posts I have been saying the same thing. That the problem with healt care in the USA is a systemic problem not just a bad doctor problem. indeed i have complained about one particular urologist, but in hindsight all 4 of them never gave me a clue as to what was going on. They are just too busy pushing as many patients through as possible because they are in a corrupt system
"First do no harm" now means "choose the treatment most likely to result in minimizing the chance that the patient will return with the same problem and so cause the insurer more money for treating the same problem."
Also, you got a problem with depression after dealing with RE? OK, we give you 3 or 4 visits with a Psychiatric Social Worker to deal with that.
To dream Detective in answer to "The prostate will only get worse if not treated and you could die.. ... So get real and thank your doctor you are alive to whinge." Its not a matter of cursing or thanking your Doc. It is a matter of designing a more human system where Docs get their satisfaction from doing the best for their patients as opposed to getting to be best at playing games with the insurer. The profit motive and the absolute need for accountability in terms of numbers of procedures done, number of return visits, and the need to minimize diagnostic visits before selecting a final treatment has pushed more and more physicians into specialties where their incomes are determined by number of procedures done. Now, they are doing the same thing with public education. Classifying children by scores in tests and judging their teachers by the average score their classes received in standard tests and judging (and closing) schools based on average test scores of the children wo regard to whether they are living in poverty or in some gated community at the edge of town) and forcing children into job-tracks (like STEM and subgroups for programmers, Biologists, Energy Scientists or whatever) beginning at ages 6, 7, 8 and on (when there are no indications that jobs will exist for them) when they graduate is inhuman. We are trying to make life into a mechanized process so that the value of each input can be calculated and used to make decisions on how to optimize the system's output or how much money should be paid to teachers whose students get test scores within one range or another. Those who run our economy think they got where they are by virtue of natural ability and hard work (rather than by cheating and pushing others out of the way), so they think that every one should be compensated according to some metric that measure ability and effort. So system designs are influenced more by the ability of procedures to produce measurable outputs than overall satisfaction and health of the populace. You are just a set of statistics and your satisfaction and degree of communication with your doctor does not count for anything.
"First do no harm" now means "choose the treatment most likely to result in minimizing the chance that the patient will return with the same problem and so cause the insurer more money for treating the same problem."
Also, you got a problem with depression after dealing with RE? OK, we give you 3 or 4 visits with a Psychiatric Social Worker to deal with that.
To dream Detective in answer to "The prostate will only get worse if not treated and you could die.. ... So get real and thank your doctor you are alive to whinge." Its not a matter of cursing or thanking your Doc. It is a matter of designing a more human system where Docs get their satisfaction from doing the best for their patients as opposed to getting to be best at playing games with the insurer. The profit motive and the absolute need for accountability in terms of numbers of procedures done, number of return visits, and the need to minimize diagnostic visits before selecting a final treatment has pushed more and more physicians into specialties where their incomes are determined by number of procedures done. Now, they are doing the same thing with public education. Classifying children by scores in tests and judging their teachers by the average score their classes received in standard tests and judging (and closing) schools based on average test scores of the children wo regard to whether they are living in poverty or in some gated community at the edge of town) and forcing children into job-tracks (like STEM and subgroups for programmers, Biologists, Energy Scientists or whatever) beginning at ages 6, 7, 8 and on (when there are no indications that jobs will exist for them) when they graduate is inhuman. We are trying to make life into a mechanized process so that the value of each input can be calculated and used to make decisions on how to optimize the system's output or how much money should be paid to teachers whose students get test scores within one range or another. Those who run our economy think they got where they are by virtue of natural ability and hard work (rather than by cheating and pushing others out of the way), so they think that every one should be compensated according to some metric that measure ability and effort. So system designs are influenced more by the ability of procedures to produce measurable outputs than overall satisfaction and health of the populace. You are just a set of statistics and your satisfaction and degree of communication with your doctor does not count for anything.
I'm glad it worked for you. In my case, the operation was successful but the patient died. The bottom line for me is that no thought to possible reversal was put into turp. This is unacceptable.
If I had to do it over again, I would have prayed for the patience I didn't have. I have it now, but I fear it's too late.
I know I'm perhaps "whining" a bit, but the truth is the truth.
Anyway, I appreciate the back and forth, as, until now, I have had just one-way conversationsf, and that can get pretty boring.
I had a TURP 2 years ago It was all explained to me.... I am 63 now. My prostate was large and I could not pee, I had catheter after catheter. Blockages in them blood clots... almost died The bladder used to spasm and the pain was unbearable. I begged for the turp after the stress cause a heart attack. I can pee great now and I am still alive.. I suggest you complaining fools should be luck you are alive still. The prostate will only get worse if not treated and you could die.. my father died as he refused to turp. So get real and thank your doctor you are alive to whinge.
I am now 76 years old. I had my turp procedure several years ago. As most in this discussion relate, I have not been the same since.
I have been searching for an outlet to tak about and research possible reversals.
I would definitely like to hear from any or all who have commented.