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low libido High Testosterone
I have been experiencing very low libido. I have been tested for various labs, my testosterone tests out high at 865 total, and high bioavailable...I've seen endocrinologists,etc and everything they test appears high normal...I am also physically fit, a body builder, drink rarely, don't smoke...I am absolutely perplexed...I used to be a raging animal sexually and it is as though it has simply shut off. It also effects my ability to maintain and achieve erections. I thought it could be low testosterone...but apparently not...I still get night-time erections, but then when I wake up in the AM it is like they disappear and it takes tremendous amounts of enticement to get me excited. I also noticed that I don't feel the same sensation...What possible causes could it be? It is quit stressing...I have read similar stories on here...I am 33 years old...could my cortisol levels be too high? I am willing to test anything?
interesting, the wellbutrin thing...
I am a 53 year old male and I suffer from the same symptoms. I have just had my blood work done and all came back normal. Testosterone levels normal, no diabetes. So now by looking at this post this is the first I noticed symptoms about libido issues. I have just done a dramatic change on my life and have gone on Chantix to quit smoking which the last day will be Monday. I have started to work out on a regular basis, 4 times a week. I have dropped my drinking down dramatically. I have been on a very good diet. I am also staying quite active these days. My motivation for work has gone straight out the door considering I have been a work horse for decades. My sex drive has pretty much done the same. However I still do think about sex all the time. Sometimes when I masturbate I can get a full scale erection and other times only half. The half more so than the full scale. I take my vitamins on a daily basis, drink a lot of water. I'm at a loss here. In my 30s and 40s I was an animal when it came to sex. Currently I have been taking these pills called "ageless male" and according to them it takes 6 months to take effect but now with see these previous post about Testosterone enhancers and that the body stops producing it naturally...that scares me. I understand that I am 50+ years old but my life is not over sexually, I refuse to accept this as a reality. It is almost like I can feel the rest of my body but in my groin area is like blocked...figure of speech. I hope someone can come up with some answers here. I will keep researching and going to doctors and trying to find out something. This is very frustrating to say the least.
Jebby- I feel for you and am here to tell you that I have the exact same problem. Have you found a solution yet? I know your post was a few months back, but again, was just wondering how you came out? If you haven't, I can tell you what I found out, and what I'm going to try.
I know this is an old thread but I thought I would just comment on my own experiences.
1. I am prescribed to take 200mg of Testosterone Cypionate twice a month. (1cc)
2. I was diagnosed with low testosterone in 2009 which is why I am on TRT. My T levels were around 150. So on the low end for sure.
3. My blood work initially looked something like this - Triglycerides 722, HDL 50, LDL 330 give or take (Might have those reversed but it's bad).
Immediately after starting the injections my numbers dropped almost over night. My triglycerides were down around 180, my ldl dropped to 245 (still high), and my hdl stayed about the same. Probably because I had the energy to move around, exercise, etc..
Now, all that being said here are two things I have personally experienced over the last 5 years. The first is, within days after my injection I have no desire for sex. I feel mentally clear and alert, I feel stronger, more energy, but zero desire for sex. The desire for sex comes back as the shot's half life begins to taper off around day 9, then I'm off to the races two or three times a day. Blood work I've had done the day after an injection put my levels over 1100. Clearly this is way too high. The excess T in my system is likely aromatizing in to estrogen which is naturally what the body is supposed to do if there is too much T - It's why body builders use drugs like Clomid, Novaldex etc.. to block estrogen uptake and ward of the ever feared "b1tch ****". The down side to this estrogen is a lack of libido, and erectile dysfunction. Jebby saying he has T levels of 865 and a higher than normal prolactin reading points to his body aromatizing the excess T in his body in to estrogen. Normal T levels should be between 300 - 600. 865 is too high. In the case of testosterone more is better to a point, and too much is bad.
Quitting the TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) - So I have done this several times. Here is the problem. Your body has a loop back system regulated by the pituitary gland in your brain. When your testosterone is artificially raised by an outside source of T, your pituitary gland tells the testes to stop producing testosterone - because your body thinks it has too much. The problem with stopping any type of long term TRT is that your body doesn't automatically turn testosterone production back on - if at all. The joint and muscle pains return, the fatigue, lack of libido, muscle weakness etc.. One thing that I have found in my blood work when working with my endocrinologist is that when I quit my TRT therapy my vitamin D levels drop well below 25. Vitamin D levels should be 25 or greater for normal. Mine have dropped as low as 12 despite spending time outside in the sun or eating foods and multivitamins fortified with Vitaming D. My calcium levels also shot up to 10.9. A normal level is in the 8 range. This is bad because I do not take any calcium supplements. What this means is that my body not generating or receiving enough vitamin D and is having to pull calcium from my bones and teeth - causing joint and body pain, and muscle pains - think of having the flu but without a fever. Vitamin D is key to your body being able to absorb calcium from foods you eat. It's why milk is fortified with vitamin D.
There are two approaches to solving both the problems. With the TRT I have had some success in breaking up my injections. Rather than inject 200mg every two weeks, I inject 100mg every week. Keeping my T levels in the 600 range and constant.
With regards to low Vitamin D it's important to ensure there is no parathyroid tumor (hyperparathyroidism). Once a tumor is ruled out and a PTH blood test has been completed. A doctor will usually prescribe vitamin D. Most over the counter supplements range from 500 IU-10,000 IU (international units). The vitamin d a doctor will prescribe you is typically 50,000 IU - an insane amount of vitamin D. Taking even 10,000 IU for 3-4 days a week for 8 weeks will dramatically decrease the bone, joint, and muscle pain you will feel. Vitamin D builds up in the body so here again this is one of those things where more is good but too much is bad. Don't go popping 10,000 IU of vitamin D a day or you may regret it. (Hypervitaminosis D, and hypercalcimia)
Anyways I hope this helps someone out there. It's been a long road for me, but lots of reading, research, and the right doctors have allowed me to have a normal quality of life. If your doctors look at you sideways when you bring your symptoms to them - seek out another doctor. It doesn't make you a bad person to get another doctors opinion. And you may end up seeing 6-10 doctors - keep going until you find someone who will listen to you and will take a genuine interest in your well being. I personally drive 460 miles to see my doctor. Sounds excessive, but it's worth me living a normal healthy life - and she's the only one I've found who wanted to solve my problems.
1. I am prescribed to take 200mg of Testosterone Cypionate twice a month. (1cc)
2. I was diagnosed with low testosterone in 2009 which is why I am on TRT. My T levels were around 150. So on the low end for sure.
3. My blood work initially looked something like this - Triglycerides 722, HDL 50, LDL 330 give or take (Might have those reversed but it's bad).
Immediately after starting the injections my numbers dropped almost over night. My triglycerides were down around 180, my ldl dropped to 245 (still high), and my hdl stayed about the same. Probably because I had the energy to move around, exercise, etc..
Now, all that being said here are two things I have personally experienced over the last 5 years. The first is, within days after my injection I have no desire for sex. I feel mentally clear and alert, I feel stronger, more energy, but zero desire for sex. The desire for sex comes back as the shot's half life begins to taper off around day 9, then I'm off to the races two or three times a day. Blood work I've had done the day after an injection put my levels over 1100. Clearly this is way too high. The excess T in my system is likely aromatizing in to estrogen which is naturally what the body is supposed to do if there is too much T - It's why body builders use drugs like Clomid, Novaldex etc.. to block estrogen uptake and ward of the ever feared "b1tch ****". The down side to this estrogen is a lack of libido, and erectile dysfunction. Jebby saying he has T levels of 865 and a higher than normal prolactin reading points to his body aromatizing the excess T in his body in to estrogen. Normal T levels should be between 300 - 600. 865 is too high. In the case of testosterone more is better to a point, and too much is bad.
Quitting the TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) - So I have done this several times. Here is the problem. Your body has a loop back system regulated by the pituitary gland in your brain. When your testosterone is artificially raised by an outside source of T, your pituitary gland tells the testes to stop producing testosterone - because your body thinks it has too much. The problem with stopping any type of long term TRT is that your body doesn't automatically turn testosterone production back on - if at all. The joint and muscle pains return, the fatigue, lack of libido, muscle weakness etc.. One thing that I have found in my blood work when working with my endocrinologist is that when I quit my TRT therapy my vitamin D levels drop well below 25. Vitamin D levels should be 25 or greater for normal. Mine have dropped as low as 12 despite spending time outside in the sun or eating foods and multivitamins fortified with Vitaming D. My calcium levels also shot up to 10.9. A normal level is in the 8 range. This is bad because I do not take any calcium supplements. What this means is that my body not generating or receiving enough vitamin D and is having to pull calcium from my bones and teeth - causing joint and body pain, and muscle pains - think of having the flu but without a fever. Vitamin D is key to your body being able to absorb calcium from foods you eat. It's why milk is fortified with vitamin D.
There are two approaches to solving both the problems. With the TRT I have had some success in breaking up my injections. Rather than inject 200mg every two weeks, I inject 100mg every week. Keeping my T levels in the 600 range and constant.
With regards to low Vitamin D it's important to ensure there is no parathyroid tumor (hyperparathyroidism). Once a tumor is ruled out and a PTH blood test has been completed. A doctor will usually prescribe vitamin D. Most over the counter supplements range from 500 IU-10,000 IU (international units). The vitamin d a doctor will prescribe you is typically 50,000 IU - an insane amount of vitamin D. Taking even 10,000 IU for 3-4 days a week for 8 weeks will dramatically decrease the bone, joint, and muscle pain you will feel. Vitamin D builds up in the body so here again this is one of those things where more is good but too much is bad. Don't go popping 10,000 IU of vitamin D a day or you may regret it. (Hypervitaminosis D, and hypercalcimia)
Anyways I hope this helps someone out there. It's been a long road for me, but lots of reading, research, and the right doctors have allowed me to have a normal quality of life. If your doctors look at you sideways when you bring your symptoms to them - seek out another doctor. It doesn't make you a bad person to get another doctors opinion. And you may end up seeing 6-10 doctors - keep going until you find someone who will listen to you and will take a genuine interest in your well being. I personally drive 460 miles to see my doctor. Sounds excessive, but it's worth me living a normal healthy life - and she's the only one I've found who wanted to solve my problems.
I too have very high testosterone testosterone enanthanate, but zero libido and unable to get an erection right now as wellbutrin took that away. I don't understand that as it is supposed to increase dopamine. I am at a loss.
By the way jebby, I have the exact same symptoms as you. So similar it's uncanny. I don't know what else it could be.
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