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317787 tn?1473358451

OMEGA 3's vs Krill Oil

Hi I recently found information about Omega 3's and what they can do for our bodies.
I also saw Krill Oil was even better
I am taking the Krill Oil and trying to see if anyone else has tried it, what type and
how has it helped you

I do think it is helping me with some of the stiffness I was experiencing
Thank you
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It's true, inflammation is the source of pain.  The body's reaction to injury is to use inflammation to wall off that area so it doesn't contaminate the rest of the body, but it doesn't do very well at getting rid of the inflammation and so it can become a chronic problem.  Fish oil has been shown in some studies to reduce inflammation, but in natural medicine you'd usually combine remedies to get a better result.  Fish oil is also a source of what's called the good cholesterol, or HDL, so it doesn't reduce cholesterol as much as increase the good part of cholesterol.  But keep in mind the connection between cholesterol levels and heart disease has no consensus and is increasingly being challenged by medical researchers, so how much good it does is in question.  The real bad stuff is triglycerides.  It's possible, and it's true with me, that if you have high HDL you'd have somewhat high cholesterol but it would be a good thing, not a bad thing, because the high levels is not the form of cholesterol thought to be a problem.  On the other side of the equation are those medical researchers who believe even the slightest levels of high cholesterol should be immediately lead to the patient being put on statins.  I don't know if the statin industry paid for this research or not, but again, this is a raging issue right now among medical researchers.  Go figure.
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317787 tn?1473358451
Gym, no I have been taking 200 mg of Co Q10, 800 mg of Omega 3
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317787 tn?1473358451
I'll have to check, maybe I have that wrong.
It may be the LDL has to be 139 and the good 42 or more.  I thought I was doing well getting the total under 200 since that was what I had always heard.
Sorry
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317787 tn?1473358451
I agree, all my life they said it had to be under 200 so I got it down 65 points, now they say, oh diabetics need to get it down to 139
I'm not listening anymore
I believe the drug companies have done this to get more people on medications.
Alot like diabetes, 120 used to be normal fasting, now anything over 100, they freak out.
Sorry, just irritated with the drug companies and ins companies
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Dee, is that total cholesterol or just LDL?  Because I would think total cholesterol levels that low would make it impossible to get enough to make hormones.  Cholesterol is a necessary substance in the right forms and amounts.  I have to tell you, it was pretty bizarre hearing in the same week that meta-studies have shown that cholesterol is not the risk factor for heart disease doctors thought and then the cholesterol levels indicating statin prescription had been lowered.  I don't think even the tobacco companies propagandized more than pharmaceutical companies.
317787 tn?1473358451
She was also encouraged to eat salmon once or twice a week.
She did something called the Rice diet at Duke though each day was full of meditation, exercise, a nap or rest in the afternoon.
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317787 tn?1473358451
Thank you Gym! My Mom used the Dean Ornish diet when she was told she had a heart blockage.
She lived at Duke U for 3 months followed it all, was able to lose 20 lbs and get rid of the blockage
Most people would rather have the stent put in and eat what they like.

I appreciate your input as I had forgotten that

I don't eat red meat, try to limit fried foods, processed foods,lunch meat, salt etc  I try very hard to limit junk food thought it is difficult.  I try to keep all of that away from my home.
I mainly stopped the above many years ago.

Thanks again
Dee
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It's great on an everything bagel! Also smoked salmon!
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You're lucky, Gym -- New York is pretty much the only place you can get smoked sable.  It's gotten too expensive to ship it down here -- used to get some every so often.  Wish I could get the smoked Alaskan cod we had in California, though.
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Do you take a 400 mg. CoQ10 daily?
Get a copy of The China Study, a long-term review of disease and cholesterol in that country, and you’ll see that large populations in the world exist where heart disease is virtually unknown.

You need to get serious about food. Mainly eating a plant-based diet.
Depending on your particular profile, I suggest either the Dean Ornish heart-reversal diet or the South Beach Diet. If you have heart disease, the Ornish diet is better because it cleanses the system of excess fat.
The South Beach Diet is usually for those with risk factors but no known heart disease. This diet allows more latitude and can still get a person to
the recommended targets. Aim to keep your calorie intake to between 1,500 and 1,800 calories. The lower end is for women; the higher end is for men.
If you're overweight then you need to diet. Your BMI (body mass index) is the percentage of your total body weight that’s due to fat. It should be under 25.
You need to start exercising five days a week for one hour per day. Walking is just about the best exercise because it doesn’t place too much stress on the knees, hips, and back.
Lack of sleep causes the liver to pump out excess cholesterol!
Sleep is the body’s main way of dealing with stress. Get 8-10 hours.
Stress, you should practice meditation.
Only two ways to reduce your cholesterol, Stop the production of cholesterol in your liver, or stop its absorption in the small
intestine.
Adding supplements to your diet can help reduce cholesterol, but most people have to be at their targets, eating right, and exercising before
supplements can help them stay there.
Omega-3 and vitamin B3 (niacin), remain the champions of the
supplements. Both fish oil and niacin boost HDL, plump up LDL particles, and reduce inflammation.
Organic grape juice, apples, and other foods that contain pectin help eliminate cholesterol through the gut. Garlic has a mild effect as well.
A glass of red wine a day, because it contains resveratrol, an antioxidant, also helps maintain heart health. No more than 1 glass 2-3 times per week!

           10 Foods for Your Low-Cholesterol Diet
Avocado Oil
Avocado oil is pressed from the pulp that surrounds the avocado pit. It's got a buttery flavor. "Good" monounsaturated fat makes up about 72% of its calories, the same as olive oil. “The monounsaturated fat in avocado oil helps protect your heart by reducing LDL cholesterol levels and improving your blood pressure numbers,” says Washington, DC, dietitian Rebecca Scritchfield, RD.“Avocado oil is also high in vitamin E, a powerful antioxidant that can help to reduce inflammation.

Sablefish
Sablefish, also called black cod, hails from the deep waters of the North Pacific. It's got pearly-white buttery flesh and texture similar to that of halibut. Like salmon, it's rich in omega-3s.  

Parsnips
These root vegetables have a nutty, slightly sweet flavor. Fiber is good for your cholesterol and keeps you feeling full longer. You'll also get nutrients like vitamins C and K, folate, and potassium.

Almond Butter
Almond butter has more monounsaturated fat, calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus. Look for a brand that lists one simple ingredient: almonds.

Black Lentils
Black lentils, You'll get about 12 grams of protein and 10 grams of fiber in a half-cup cooked. They also have anthocyanins, antioxidants that are also in dark berries.

Hemp Seeds
Hemp seeds. They have more protein than many other seeds: about 10 grams in 3 tablespoons. “They’re also rich in vitamin E, iron, potassium, fiber, and magnesium,” A Harvard School of Medicine study found that people who have more magnesium in their diets may lower their odds of getting heart disease by up to 30%. hemp seeds have a healthy ratio of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, both of which your body needs.

Matcha tea, Green tea is a great source of antioxidants called catechins, which improve blood pressure and cholesterol numbers. Matcha includes the whole tea leaf, ground into very fine powder, which you drink. It can have 137 times the amount of an antioxidant called EGCG in a traditional green tea, University of Colorado researchers found.

Plantain
It’s rich in vitamin A, vitamin B6, vitamin C, and potassium. “Our heart muscles require potassium to keep it beating strongly”.

Soba Noodles
A whole grain rich in vitamins, minerals, dietary fiber, and an antioxidant called rutin.

Last one is Quinoa Flakes




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Again, take the above as a homework assignment, not as factual.  When Gym says "researchers found," the study could be a tiny study or an outlyer.  Not way to know.  Soba is not always a whole grain -- soba is a width of noodle, not an indication of ingredients.  It can contain white flour, whole wheat flour, different combinations of wheat flour or whole wheat flour and buckwheat, or all buckwheat.  I'm guessing only the ones with buckwheat in it are the recommended ones, as the wheat ones would be no different than any other pasta.  I doubt matcha is any better than sencha and white tea is probably a little better than green tea for antioxidants, but don't see how this affects cholesterol all that much.  Cha, by the way, is the Chinese word for tea, and so any Chinese tea made of the genuine tea plant will have cha at the end.  At any rate, for the poster, if your cholesterol levels are below 200 it's hard to see how cholesterol is a risk factor.  Again, the connection between cholesterol and heart disease is losing its consensus so unless it's a fair amount above the recommended levels you're probably fine.  But the new recommendations, again, might have been developed by the manufacturers of statins, as they now recommend starting on statins with much lower levels than were the case before.  Given the high risks of statins for some people, and you won't know if that's you until after you've been taking them for awhile, being cautious and thorough is important.  And sable, while a wonderful tasting fish, is extremely expensive and very hard to find in most places in the US, but it's extraordinary smoked on a bagel with cream cheese!
317787 tn?1473358451
I should have explained that while my cholesterol is under 200, the doctor now says it has to get lower, well the bad lower and good higher
I'm not taking a statin, won't take it. :)
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317787 tn?1473358451
Thank you for taking the time to respond, I really appreciate.
I am taking other supplements and hope that all of them will help a bit.
Again, thank you, Dee
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317787 tn?1473358451
Oh, I am assuming that age is causing this problem with feeling kinda stiff.  I also had back surgery last August. I'm still trying to recover from that.
I thought that inflammation caused different types of pain, figured with all the reported health benefits it would help me.  I have high cholesterol, heard it helped that.
Thanks again
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It's true, inflammation is the source of pain.  The body's reaction to injury is to use inflammation to wall off that area so it doesn't contaminate the rest of the body, but it doesn't do very well at getting rid of the inflammation and so it can become a chronic problem.  Fish oil has been shown in some studies to reduce inflammation, but in natural medicine you'd usually combine remedies to get a better result.  Fish oil is also a source of what's called the good cholesterol, or HDL, so it doesn't reduce cholesterol as much as increase the good part of cholesterol.  But keep in mind the connection between cholesterol levels and heart disease has no consensus and is increasingly being challenged by medical researchers, so how much good it does is in question.  The real bad stuff is triglycerides.  It's possible, and it's true with me, that if you have high HDL you'd have somewhat high cholesterol but it would be a good thing, not a bad thing, because the high levels is not the form of cholesterol thought to be a problem.  On the other side of the equation are those medical researchers who believe even the slightest levels of high cholesterol should be immediately lead to the patient being put on statins.  I don't know if the statin industry paid for this research or not, but again, this is a raging issue right now among medical researchers.  Go figure.
317787 tn?1473358451
Thank you, I had heard there were many good things it could do.
I did not know about the Krill
I will go back to regular Omega 3's
Thanks again
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Krill oil is a source of certain types of Omega 3 oils.  There are different ones.  Fish oil contains two types, and flax seed oil and hemp seed oil, for example, supply some as well.  Now, I have a personal objection to krill oil, which is, krill are being killed off to get this oil and they are the food supply for most of what lives in the ocean, especially the larger creatures.  Krill are tiny crustaceans and so it takes millions and millions of them to make some oil.  Fish are obviously much larger and you can find areas where there are plenty of clean fish that don't disrupt the ecosystem.  The advantages of krill oil over fish oil is slight, if it's even true.  Obviously, others disagree, but the point of taking a supplement shouldn't involve the eventual killing off of many other species that are also important.  As for helping stiffness, Omega 3 oils might help with inflammation, and when used in conjunction with other anti-inflammatories such as turmeric and ginger and many others might work a whole lot better.  But stiffness isn't the same as inflammation, so whether this will help depends on why you're stiff.
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