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Tramadol-how long does the withrawal last?
Hi. I have been reading the posts by so many people who are suffering from addiction and it has helped me so much and feel less alone in this. I have been abusing Tramadol for 2 years and have finally quit 2 days ago. I am suffering through the withdrawal!!! I am exhausted and my brain feels like its getting zapped every 2 seconds, I can't sleep and I sweat like crazy all through the night. I even tapered down from 10 pills a day to 2 and then stopped all together last sunday. This is incrediblly hard and sometimes I wonder whats worse...the addiction, secrecy and shame of taking those pills or the withdrawals of stopping it! Does anyone have an idea of when things will feel back to normal??
I am so struggling to stay on course and know that many of you share these same struggles and I want to wish everyone the very best of luck.
I am so struggling to stay on course and know that many of you share these same struggles and I want to wish everyone the very best of luck.
i was pretty much in your same bout taking bout 10 pills for two years ect i tried quitin many times but ended up gin back cause i felt like junk months after this time i readon here anti depresents might help me cause i always went into depresion so i went n got some and i quit the first 5 days were helll then the 6th i woke up not the best but beter still hell though then on day 11 i had to go to work i went and i felt pretty goood from that day on ive been feeling alot beter ever since then day 33 right now and i feel normal again no craving no w.d.s ive stoped sneazing pretty mcuh no more yawns ect its goood
the first couple weaks feal like months but once u get past ittime flys by it seems like yesterday was day 11
but it is different for everyone who knows you might wake up tommrow and feel great
also start takin a good viatamin and i drank nothing but water maybe itll help
good luck
the first couple weaks feal like months but once u get past ittime flys by it seems like yesterday was day 11
but it is different for everyone who knows you might wake up tommrow and feel great
also start takin a good viatamin and i drank nothing but water maybe itll help
good luck
Welcome to the forum,we have a great member who journaled her withdrawl,go to top right corner and put in LOST MARBLES ,when page comes up hit journal.Hope this helps ,Hang in there it is so worth the fight
kristen,
I have been where you are I know it is hell but you can get threw the first fives day are going to be the worst . then things will get better .I did not get any sleep until night four things that will help ....supplments L'tyrosine 5 hpt melation magnesium calsuiem....... however if you are on a tricyclic or ssri antidepressant you can not take l tyrosine or 5 hpt......... these two supplements help with mood and energy. you can do this
I have been where you are I know it is hell but you can get threw the first fives day are going to be the worst . then things will get better .I did not get any sleep until night four things that will help ....supplments L'tyrosine 5 hpt melation magnesium calsuiem....... however if you are on a tricyclic or ssri antidepressant you can not take l tyrosine or 5 hpt......... these two supplements help with mood and energy. you can do this
Thanks so much for all the great advise and support.....you all are great to take the time to help others
I am happy you have come to the forum and keep posting....posting is good for the soul right now while you heal
I took 4 or 5 for 4 years its went to half of a pill in about 3 weeks or so. Its benn since last friday, nights are the worst, I work and get thru the day. Alieve, gatarade restless legs from hybrid and st johns wort have helped. Still feeling the nights and just tired and stuffy during day. Bearable good luck
Kristen, was a long time Tramadol abuser...20-30 pills/day for years. Went ct Jan 25, and am loving life again. The first 7-10 days are really bad, Tramadol being a synthetic opiate sometimes takes longer to get out of your system than others. For the first 5 days its really important to keep hydrated, take vitamins (follow the Thomas Recipe if you can) and make sure you eat and take hot baths with Epsom salts when you can. Just pamper yourself..it took me quite awhile to even get off the couch and get to the grocery store to buy some healthy foods. I drank about 3-4 bottles of Vitamin Water Revive each day and I think that helped. Also added 5htp and Rholdiola after about 15 days and that helped with energy. I also kept both a fan and a hair dryer (of all things...still use it), to help at night with either sweats or chills. The sweats seemed to stop after a week or so, but then chills every night, but the air blowing on my face or neck and past my ears seemed soothing to me in a way. I also didn't have any Rx to help with anxiety or RLS, but I used OTC Benadryl a lot during the first week during the day to help with that creepy crawly feeling. It's hard to get through...first the physical stuff, then with the general malaise and not wanting to do anything, but things slowly come back and your life will be so much better than being in the Tram-fog. Let us know what you are feeling, there are things that we have been through and can help you with. Keep reading the posts, and if you can, try ready through EmilyPost early journals...she was a pioneer in Tramadol withdrawl several years ago and reading through her journals during sleepless nights helped me really understand what I was up against, what healing my body and brain needed to go through and to understand what I was feeling was completely typical in this horrible WD process. You can do this...and you will be sooo much happier once you do. It's really a month of getting past the worst for a lifetime of living!
Hi everyone,
I am currently on day 11 of cold turkey detox from a 7 year addiction with the dreaded Tramadols and also codeine phosphate,
My daily intake was 40-50x50mg Tramadol hydrochloride and 12-24x30mgs codeine phosphate, and even with all that poison in my bloodstream I wasn't euphoric, just "levelled out!" I would take 10x50mg Tramadol every 90 mins then finish the day taking 12x30mg codeine phosphate twice!
Days 1-2 were ok ish just like you described the fizz in your brain whenever you even moved your eyes then as the days ticked by I got day trips direct into the bowels of hell with the withdrawals!!
Was offered methadone and told to taper down weekly but thought no way just knuckle down and get strapped in for the worst ride of my life,
Anyhow I am now day 11 opiate free, my cravings have all gone, sleeping relatively ok, eating great again finally, emotions returning and generally feeling human and alive again.
My experience is up to day 6 or 7 cold turkey you do finally resurface from hell back to the world again, no you aren't going to feel 100% better more like 50-60% like I did, (day 11 and only feel approx 75% me again!) but the main thing is you will have this evil monkey off your back and start concentrate on your road to recovery.
Don't let the length of time put you off though! When I did my research before starting I was almost put off by the length of time it took for some people to shake this horrible thing and looking back I'm really glad I ignored it.
Just get off these evil tramadols ASAP!
I am currently on day 11 of cold turkey detox from a 7 year addiction with the dreaded Tramadols and also codeine phosphate,
My daily intake was 40-50x50mg Tramadol hydrochloride and 12-24x30mgs codeine phosphate, and even with all that poison in my bloodstream I wasn't euphoric, just "levelled out!" I would take 10x50mg Tramadol every 90 mins then finish the day taking 12x30mg codeine phosphate twice!
Days 1-2 were ok ish just like you described the fizz in your brain whenever you even moved your eyes then as the days ticked by I got day trips direct into the bowels of hell with the withdrawals!!
Was offered methadone and told to taper down weekly but thought no way just knuckle down and get strapped in for the worst ride of my life,
Anyhow I am now day 11 opiate free, my cravings have all gone, sleeping relatively ok, eating great again finally, emotions returning and generally feeling human and alive again.
My experience is up to day 6 or 7 cold turkey you do finally resurface from hell back to the world again, no you aren't going to feel 100% better more like 50-60% like I did, (day 11 and only feel approx 75% me again!) but the main thing is you will have this evil monkey off your back and start concentrate on your road to recovery.
Don't let the length of time put you off though! When I did my research before starting I was almost put off by the length of time it took for some people to shake this horrible thing and looking back I'm really glad I ignored it.
Just get off these evil tramadols ASAP!
Great post and congratulations on getting free of the Tramadol. I had a very long and ugly affair with this med myself and was up to about 40 -50 50mg pills per day when I quit cold turkey about 3 months ago. I, like you, worried about all the things I read and was scared too - but when you get to the point I was (and sounds like you were), what was the alternative? At the rate I was going the pills would have killed me. I still have some issues with energy and emotional ups and downs. But it's truly amazing how the simple things in life like getting exercise, eating right and having support (like from here), make such a difference.
It's good you were able to do this w/out having to go with Methadone. You will likely have some emotional and/or depression issues, lack of energy, etc. for awhile (thank you Tramadol for the added anti-depressant that most of us never knew about). That is why aftercare is so important. Do you have support at home - anyone you can talk to that knows your situation? What about therapy or NA meetings or something of that sort? They say, and I have found it to be SO true, getting off the pills is the easy part. Staying off them is another story. I have found this forum to be HUGE in my recovery success too. Please think about the future and what you will do to ensure the "evil monkey" stays far, far away and off your back for good. Congratulations on becoming Tram free - huge accomplishment . . . . hope to see you keep posting!
It's good you were able to do this w/out having to go with Methadone. You will likely have some emotional and/or depression issues, lack of energy, etc. for awhile (thank you Tramadol for the added anti-depressant that most of us never knew about). That is why aftercare is so important. Do you have support at home - anyone you can talk to that knows your situation? What about therapy or NA meetings or something of that sort? They say, and I have found it to be SO true, getting off the pills is the easy part. Staying off them is another story. I have found this forum to be HUGE in my recovery success too. Please think about the future and what you will do to ensure the "evil monkey" stays far, far away and off your back for good. Congratulations on becoming Tram free - huge accomplishment . . . . hope to see you keep posting!
You're going through the worst of it right now. Depending on your constitution the "acute" withdrawal - restless legs, etc. will probably subside between 7 days & 14. The sweating & sneezing, low energy & sleep take time. As a poster above mentioned. HYDRATE. Also try to get yourself some omega 3's and some liquid vitamins (Raw food-based if possible.) Take hot baths. If you have someone to massage you - accept the gift. If you like music or humor, these are things that can get those endorphins going. When you're feeling a little better try to get to a gym or take a walk at a good clip. When you feel anxious or close to the edge, breathe deep from your belly and relax your muscles as much as possible. There are also guided visualizations you can listen to on You Tube or just the sound of a Thunderstorm or a Rainforest (also on You Tube.) YOU CAN DO this. It will get better. At first it's second to second, then minute to minute, then hour to hour, then day to day - week to week. You are healing -- and this is natural. You never know how strong you can be until push comes to shove or something within you brings you to that crossroads & you take the path "less traveled". Believe - keep reading the posts of people who are ahead of you and look back and see that they went through the same thing. Try to put the shame & guilt away - they can lead you backwards. You should be PROUD. Fear is your enemy & Love is your sword. Do it for yourself - You deserve it & keep coming back. Write me anytime if you like. I'm with you.....
Hello buddy,
Many thanks for the reply,I really needed that interaction,
No unfortunately I have refused any aftercare as I see it as my own self-infliction and don't like the idea of "burdening" other people,
I know that sounds strange but I guess it's just the way I am,
You are so correct regarding my moods or lack of happiness, I should be shouting from rooftops but there's still a "void" in my life and that is the inability to be happy or smile at the moment.
During my detox I did very light weights and exercise when I could be bothered just to release some endorphins and feel good for a while but even now that's not working.
I don't know if you have read any of my other posts but I have gone through this at my parents home because I have 2 little children and I definitely don't want them to see me like how I was and recently I have been to see them but alas it's like I just want to get out of their way because of lack of energy!
I eat and drink correct But still can't quite put my finger on it!
Contemplating visiting my gp in 11hrs when surgery opens to see if he can suggest something! Unsure but at wits end now!
Sorry if I was boring you (lol) how are you coping? Any tips or secrets?
Many many thanks for the reply, Richard.
Many thanks for the reply,I really needed that interaction,
No unfortunately I have refused any aftercare as I see it as my own self-infliction and don't like the idea of "burdening" other people,
I know that sounds strange but I guess it's just the way I am,
You are so correct regarding my moods or lack of happiness, I should be shouting from rooftops but there's still a "void" in my life and that is the inability to be happy or smile at the moment.
During my detox I did very light weights and exercise when I could be bothered just to release some endorphins and feel good for a while but even now that's not working.
I don't know if you have read any of my other posts but I have gone through this at my parents home because I have 2 little children and I definitely don't want them to see me like how I was and recently I have been to see them but alas it's like I just want to get out of their way because of lack of energy!
I eat and drink correct But still can't quite put my finger on it!
Contemplating visiting my gp in 11hrs when surgery opens to see if he can suggest something! Unsure but at wits end now!
Sorry if I was boring you (lol) how are you coping? Any tips or secrets?
Many many thanks for the reply, Richard.
I have been going through the cold turkey at my parents home also because as a result of years of lying and denying to my wife of 10 years she finally had enough and kicked me out and ended our marriage,
Looking back I really don't blame her as I wasted thousands and thousands of pounds buying tramadols from unscrupulous people as soon as my prescription of 2 weeks ran out after 2 days, for 4 months I slept and lived in my car, again not wanting to "burden" anyone else with my self-inflicted problems before finally after a freezing cold night in the car finally eating humble pie and going back to my parents house!
My gp did also say I would definitely be dead before Xmas if I carried on taking the volume I was so that thought and my precious little boys faces engraved in my mind decided enough was enough.
But I lost almost EVERYTHING on account of this devil drug!!
Looking back I really don't blame her as I wasted thousands and thousands of pounds buying tramadols from unscrupulous people as soon as my prescription of 2 weeks ran out after 2 days, for 4 months I slept and lived in my car, again not wanting to "burden" anyone else with my self-inflicted problems before finally after a freezing cold night in the car finally eating humble pie and going back to my parents house!
My gp did also say I would definitely be dead before Xmas if I carried on taking the volume I was so that thought and my precious little boys faces engraved in my mind decided enough was enough.
But I lost almost EVERYTHING on account of this devil drug!!
Richard-
Yes, I agree and think you should see your GP as soon as possible. He/she may be able to suggest some other remedies to help you move along with your recovery.
The moodiness and lack of energy are very common in w/d from opiates and especially from Tramadol due to it's anti-depressant affect. You are 11 days clean now, correct? That is awesome and every day you should feel a little bit better, but it can take months before you will feel like your "old" self. Have you ever heard about PAWS? Stands for "Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome" and is something that most of us recovering from opiates will surely encounter to some extent. You can search it here on MedHelp or Google it. After I read about it I understood the whole recovery process and timelines much better. Please look this up; it will help you understand more about what you are feeling and why.
I am almost to 100 days and still have symptoms pretty much every day. But you see the important thing is . . . it really does get better all the time. I may have 3 or 4 great days and then a bad one. The fact is though that the "bad" ones are getting fewer and further between, and even when they do come, I KNOW they are temporary. You ask how I cope? I have found regular exercise to be absolutely a game changer. Like several days a week. And I know, it is so hard sometimes to drag my a** down to the treadmill, but once I do the rewards are instant. I am also going to physical therapy 3 times a week - my therapist spends an hour of one on one time with me working on both the physical recovery and knows my whole addiction "secret". I have also seen an addiction therapist - that was very helpful to me as well. I read and post on this forum almost every day - LOTS of support here. And, I am VERY fortunate to have a supportive family and husband. I have come out about my addiction to pretty much everyone. That is my personal "respect the relapse" prevention. I also take some misc. vitamins and supplements to help with the moods and sleep. I'm not sure what is available where you are - a great thing to talk to the doctor about.
Bottom line - you gotta get some kind of support/aftercare. I understand that you don't want to "burden" others, but there are people out there in your same situation that likely feel the same way and might open up in the right situation. Do you have na or aa or anything like that? Or - maybe seek out a therapist. That is what they DO . . . they are getting paid to listen. They are not going to judge you or personalize your situation. You and me both took these pills at high doses for too long. I'm NOT going back there - having my life consumed w/worry about the next script or my next dose, or worrying about an overdose, or spending all my money - all this and for what? Havent felt a "high" from it in years. I'd rather feel a little bored and out of energy or even sad than go back there. I hope and pray you feel the same way. Call your doctor, OK? Keep posting your progress. Wishing you luck . . .
Julie
Yes, I agree and think you should see your GP as soon as possible. He/she may be able to suggest some other remedies to help you move along with your recovery.
The moodiness and lack of energy are very common in w/d from opiates and especially from Tramadol due to it's anti-depressant affect. You are 11 days clean now, correct? That is awesome and every day you should feel a little bit better, but it can take months before you will feel like your "old" self. Have you ever heard about PAWS? Stands for "Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome" and is something that most of us recovering from opiates will surely encounter to some extent. You can search it here on MedHelp or Google it. After I read about it I understood the whole recovery process and timelines much better. Please look this up; it will help you understand more about what you are feeling and why.
I am almost to 100 days and still have symptoms pretty much every day. But you see the important thing is . . . it really does get better all the time. I may have 3 or 4 great days and then a bad one. The fact is though that the "bad" ones are getting fewer and further between, and even when they do come, I KNOW they are temporary. You ask how I cope? I have found regular exercise to be absolutely a game changer. Like several days a week. And I know, it is so hard sometimes to drag my a** down to the treadmill, but once I do the rewards are instant. I am also going to physical therapy 3 times a week - my therapist spends an hour of one on one time with me working on both the physical recovery and knows my whole addiction "secret". I have also seen an addiction therapist - that was very helpful to me as well. I read and post on this forum almost every day - LOTS of support here. And, I am VERY fortunate to have a supportive family and husband. I have come out about my addiction to pretty much everyone. That is my personal "respect the relapse" prevention. I also take some misc. vitamins and supplements to help with the moods and sleep. I'm not sure what is available where you are - a great thing to talk to the doctor about.
Bottom line - you gotta get some kind of support/aftercare. I understand that you don't want to "burden" others, but there are people out there in your same situation that likely feel the same way and might open up in the right situation. Do you have na or aa or anything like that? Or - maybe seek out a therapist. That is what they DO . . . they are getting paid to listen. They are not going to judge you or personalize your situation. You and me both took these pills at high doses for too long. I'm NOT going back there - having my life consumed w/worry about the next script or my next dose, or worrying about an overdose, or spending all my money - all this and for what? Havent felt a "high" from it in years. I'd rather feel a little bored and out of energy or even sad than go back there. I hope and pray you feel the same way. Call your doctor, OK? Keep posting your progress. Wishing you luck . . .
Julie
Excellent post Julie thank you with all my heart really,
Tried to get an appointment with my GP just but it took 23 minutes to finally get through on the phone and alas,, all appointments gone for today!!
My GP really is a highly sought after doctor at my little local surgery so getting an appointment with him really is like picking the 6 winning lottery numbers! Never mind, there's always tomorrow eh!
Even though it's just below freezing over here I have planned a mental route which I am going to trek just on my doorstep today to get my blood pumping and endorphins released.
I feel like a 10 year old again though as I have notified my parents and I am getting the 3rd degree from them about my trek! I think they think I am going to wander into old stomping grounds where I can get tramadols again!, bless them!
I have relinquished my car keys, mobile phone and my ATM card to them to eliminate any chance of returning that evil monkey on my back!
Tried to get an appointment with my GP just but it took 23 minutes to finally get through on the phone and alas,, all appointments gone for today!!
My GP really is a highly sought after doctor at my little local surgery so getting an appointment with him really is like picking the 6 winning lottery numbers! Never mind, there's always tomorrow eh!
Even though it's just below freezing over here I have planned a mental route which I am going to trek just on my doorstep today to get my blood pumping and endorphins released.
I feel like a 10 year old again though as I have notified my parents and I am getting the 3rd degree from them about my trek! I think they think I am going to wander into old stomping grounds where I can get tramadols again!, bless them!
I have relinquished my car keys, mobile phone and my ATM card to them to eliminate any chance of returning that evil monkey on my back!
Sorry for bleating on but this forum really is a life saver!
I felt so alone going through this hell and really did think I was the only one going through it but this "aftercare forum" really is a gift from god and such a breath of fresh air!
Thank you and bless each and every one of you!
Off for my trek now, (oh mannnnnnn!!!)
Love Richard.
I felt so alone going through this hell and really did think I was the only one going through it but this "aftercare forum" really is a gift from god and such a breath of fresh air!
Thank you and bless each and every one of you!
Off for my trek now, (oh mannnnnnn!!!)
Love Richard.
You will never be alone here! GREAT job on giving up your "stuff" to your parents. That monkey is sneaky and will do whatever it takes to find us - he wants to take it all you know . . . . don't even think about giving him the chance.
Call your doctor back again today - just keep calling; you gotta get in sometime, right? I know it's frustrating, but you cant give up - NOT an option right now. You have come too far.
Have a great day - enjoy your trek to the doorstop; breathe in a lot of that fresh (albeit cold) air :))
Call your doctor back again today - just keep calling; you gotta get in sometime, right? I know it's frustrating, but you cant give up - NOT an option right now. You have come too far.
Have a great day - enjoy your trek to the doorstop; breathe in a lot of that fresh (albeit cold) air :))
Almost forgot - I noticed that this post started almost 5 years ago; not sure if the original poster is active anymore. To start a new one, just click on "post a question" and it will start a new thread. You might get more response this way.
Julie
Julie
Hi again Julie
I managed a 40 minute trek just outside my village, (I live close to an area called Weardale here in the UK and its a beautiful area and nicknamed "gods county") because of its peace and beautifulness if that is a word!)
Anyhow I had taken all my carbohydrates and nutrients before setting off, did several miles then returned to my parents home, everything was ok ish for an hour or 2 then "BANG!!" I just hit the wall again and couldn't even be bothered with myself, I was hyper lethargic and irritable and no one could even look at me never mind speak to me!
I can't help hitting this "wall" several times a day and it's such a downer after what I have been through it is really getting me down!
Am I expecting too much too soon Julie?
Thank you so much for taking the time for me, Richard.
I managed a 40 minute trek just outside my village, (I live close to an area called Weardale here in the UK and its a beautiful area and nicknamed "gods county") because of its peace and beautifulness if that is a word!)
Anyhow I had taken all my carbohydrates and nutrients before setting off, did several miles then returned to my parents home, everything was ok ish for an hour or 2 then "BANG!!" I just hit the wall again and couldn't even be bothered with myself, I was hyper lethargic and irritable and no one could even look at me never mind speak to me!
I can't help hitting this "wall" several times a day and it's such a downer after what I have been through it is really getting me down!
Am I expecting too much too soon Julie?
Thank you so much for taking the time for me, Richard.
Hi Richard -
I just saw and posted on your new thread before I saw this. The "wall" you are hitting is totally NORMAL for where you are at in terms of clean days. I promise you if you stick with it, the "wall" is going to appear and get smaller every day. It takes time; I know it is frustrating. There were so many times I just wanted to give up - DONT. We were both on pretty high amounts of pills. It is not going to be easy. We cant expect to just walk away and return to normal. This is going to be one of the hardest things you have ever done - but it will be the BEST thing you ever do. Hang in there. Look at some of the info the Clean in Kansas suggested on your other thread. When you are feeling crappy just sit at your computer and read and read; you will be surprised at some of the things you are going to learn. You gotta find things to keep yourself busy when the "wall" comes up. Push it back down. You can, I know it.
Julie
I just saw and posted on your new thread before I saw this. The "wall" you are hitting is totally NORMAL for where you are at in terms of clean days. I promise you if you stick with it, the "wall" is going to appear and get smaller every day. It takes time; I know it is frustrating. There were so many times I just wanted to give up - DONT. We were both on pretty high amounts of pills. It is not going to be easy. We cant expect to just walk away and return to normal. This is going to be one of the hardest things you have ever done - but it will be the BEST thing you ever do. Hang in there. Look at some of the info the Clean in Kansas suggested on your other thread. When you are feeling crappy just sit at your computer and read and read; you will be surprised at some of the things you are going to learn. You gotta find things to keep yourself busy when the "wall" comes up. Push it back down. You can, I know it.
Julie
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