I am going to methadone

[sickofit586]

     I am back,sorry i've been gone go aweek.Its been the worst week in along time I have tried c/t we couldn't do it.So I got the call last Monday to see the methadone doctor on the 15 may.I can't wait till then we are so excited,maybe the maddest will be gone.I understand that alot of you guys don't adgree with this and I'm not sure I do to but we can't keep going the way we are going.So we are going to try this.My Question Is will he give the methadone when we see him.We have already gone and did our blood work and pissed in the bottle.So will he give it to us on that day and will it work for right away or will we have to wait for it to get in your body's for a couple of days.We are so sorry but we have to get rid of the maddest.We have gone though all our money paying for the drug(Oxy's),and will this take care of the pains that we have too.We just want this to work.I broke down and cryied like a bady when they called and said we both got the app. I will stay intouch after the 15 may, we are down to the last straw with the pill(Oxy's and should I keep my Oxy's that the Family Doctor give me for a couple of weeks just incase it doesn't work  Thanks for your support,I know we are a dissappoitment but we have try C/t Not for us!!!!!

[Dadof5kids1973]

The methadone should start to work that day. Dont worry about what others think of how its best for you and your wife to get clean, You do what you got to do for you. That being said TRY not to take the methadone to long because its just as addictive and if you think wds are bad from the oxy wait till you have to detox from (long term use) of methadone....its longer and tougher. Now if you only stay on it long enough to get off oxy then ween off the methadone then you should be good to go. I will pray for both of you and Good luck...you will do this!

[ang_811]

He will mote then likely give it to u that day.. When u take it u will feel it working in an hour or two... My advice to u is to not be on it  for years..it's hard to get off of and it ***** the life out of u. I know!!! How long has it been since u nhad an oxy? Trust me when I say u thught fetting off of oxy's were hard wait until u try to get off methadone. U will withdrawl from that fo months, where oxy's withdrawls r not as bad as methadone withdrawls.. I wsh u all the luck...

[ang_811]

I forgot to add that when I started the clinic it put stability back in my life and I was no longer buying pills and it allowed me to  delete all the numbers in my cell of drug dealers.. It's just to bad they don't have a better kind of medicine w/out the side effects... Good luck again. U will be surprised how u both change after the first day I know I did

[lmccoy]

Hi I was on large amts of oxy and had trouble in lots of ways with it. Switched to 80mg a day of methadone and fell asleep for about 2 weeks! I'm only joking a little. Sometime in there I decided to see if I could stay awake if I took less. Went from 80 to 60mg with absolutly no problem at all and started to be able to stay awake. From there I decided to just start very slowly going down in dose and see what I could do comfortably. I am now at 5 to 7.5 mg a day. About 80 percent of the time it is 5 mg. I tryed going off completly, was off for 3 days, but my pain was just to bad. I can not remember the last time I felt as good as I do now or was functioning as well. The methadone is bad to come off from what I'v heard, but its not bad at all to taper slowly, and my life is transformed from when I was on 270 to 370 mg of oxycontin a day.

[Shay839]

Please don't go to meethadone...u will have the worst withdrawals than u have ever experienced. Trust me I was on em 5 yrs... I've been clean since 5/6/09. I got on the methadone to get off lortabs. U are just replacing an opiate for another opiate!!!!

[avisg]

gnarly great post!!!

[dominosarah]

Please read and then reread gnarly's post.......sara

[sickofit586]

For some reason I really understand what you are saying but the one thing is WE ARE TRIED and BROKE and are not strong enough to just stop.I love what you write and I believe anything that you say but right now its the only way out of this.Our money is gone gnarly,we were well off people,inour book.We have and it ours 3acers two story home,Truck,car,boat and a 4-wheeler,thats what we had.Now the 4-wheeler is sold for drugs, the boat is up for sell because of drugs.everything is paied for if I keep the maddest up I will be selling everything I have ever work for because of a pill thats not even the size of my finger nail.Yes its allover a F--king pill.I had two back surgeries and was put on this pill.They said it would change my life for the good,they were so wrong I have 13 years not drinking and lately I have wanted to drink.I am not going down that road again.So if Methadone has help out alot of people 80%, I beleive it will help us,we are not strong people and I believe the methadone is for us right now.I don't what to sound t like and *******.I am being as truthfull to you as I can.I love reading everything you write,I believe in you and these poeple believe in you.But right now I don't know where to turn and we are sure this will work.I'm really tried of this wonder drug(oxy's) How many people are in the same boat as me.Only got on it because we trusted the doctors,I would have never got on this any other way.I am sorry I am a failure but I will always stand intouch even after I star this new path that we are going on.Just thought of this,can we go on Methadone for only two weeks and then the W/d's from the Oxy's be gone or does it take longer.That my Question? We have cut down but have been taking valium's too. we are down to 3 20's aday but taking 4 /5mgs of valiums just started doing that this weekend seems to work very good.Aleast getting lots and lot of sleep LOL beauty sleep LOL    your new friend for life Fred (dead head fred aka sickofit 586)

[stilltrying1965]

Well looks like you are going on the methadone program Its still my opinion that you would be better to try a taper bfore you go down the methadone road only my opinion. I dont know if you will get methadone the same day as your appointment .But one thing i do know is its a whole lot easier to get of oxy,s than methadone. C/t never worked i think and only my opinion again you must want to be clean more than anything or c/t or a taper will not work . Are you really sick of it sickofit, or is being on a methadone program for how long well i dont know. But i wish you would try somthing else bfore you are on meth for who knows how long Wishing you the very best of luck ,,,,James

[dominosarah]

You have to do what is right for you so if you do go the Methadone route than that is that.  

The one thing that stands out the most in your last post is how beaten down you are now.  You dont think you are worthy of anything.  You are not a failure.  You are strong, you just dont see it yet.  I cant stress enough to you to get some outside help.  Methadone will not take away all the demons you are carrying.  You can do a short term plan and while you are doing this get some counseling.  You are worth fighting for.....sara

[Htownnofrown]

Are you injecting the oxy? or are  you swallowing it?

Man methadone is extreme if your just swallowing it, you ought to really check into suboxone if your just determined that you are going to use a substitute. Methadone is for serious heroin junkies who repeatedly fail to quit. Suboxone is made for pill abusers.  I was using around 400mg of oxy a day before I quit and the only thing I took during detox was clonodine, a blood pressure med that helps with the physical symptoms, so it can be done without any substitution.

Here's my thoughts on this situation. You really want to quit the oxy, but the WD's are too much. So we'll say you get on the methadone and you manage to stay off oxy. Sooner or later you are going to want off the methadone because you will see it is as strong as the oxy, it is abusable, and creates the exact same problems that oxy does. Then, when your ready to get off the methadone you are going to be in for at least 3 times worse wd's. It's just such a drastic choice. I hope you really give thought to the fact that you are trading a demon for the devil.

Good luck with whatever you choose. We're all here for you.

[gnarly_1]

HI  im sorry to here of your situation ...I feel you pain I went into financial ruin when my wife got sick back in 93 I lost everything including a custom built home in the forest
im sorry if I come off the wrong way its just that methadone witch at the time seamed to be a wounder drug for me turned out to be a living nightmare ...at this point I don't think anything I say will sway your desion ...I have said my piece and at least you know what your getting yourself into...do yourself a favor and only take it for as short of time as possible....try and keep your dose as low as possible...I have herd of heroin addicts getting off it in 45 days DO NOT  go on methadone mantence therapy...there you will get draged into it for yrs and you will go thew what I did...I cant tell you how hard it is to get off short term but from what I have herd it is ezer ...use the time your on it to seek out aftercare and work it thats what being on methadone is all about putting you addiction on hold to give you a chance to build up your foundation to learn how to live a clean and sober lifestyle...methadone will take away the withdrawals temporarily
but it wont give you the buzz or energy you get from the pills please trust me uping you dose wont change that so don't go into this chasing the high..at this point all I can hope to do is damage control...I truly hope you only use it for the minimum time required to get off the oxy..go into it with the idea of getting off it quickly...good luck and God bless ...Gnarly    

[ang_811]

I full heartely agree with gnarly, u don't have feelings on methadone, it really ***** the life out of u..and no u won't be able to control or get emotions when ur on it..

[moonshyne777]

Try Suboxone instead, it's really the better choice I think. I am being pushed by the doctor to start methadone when I went to ask for sub. He thinks because of my pain I should go on meth but after reading so many horror stories I'm very scared to. I'm going to keep looking until I find a doctor who wlll prescribe sub. You should ask for sub instead, do some research and check it out. I'm in the same boat don't want to keep going on pills but don't want to be on methadone either and sub seems to be the better choice. Good luck and I hope you give sub some thought.

[sickofit586]

  I know what you are saying and I agree but right now its the only hop I got.Yes I have shot alot of them But try to just snorting them but like most junkie's always go back to the main vein. I am truely sorry that I am doing this but thats that,I really listen to you and it always go back to methadone.And I know that you were there too and you had to try it and thats way I'm at right now.I am so excited,that I got to see him so fast.Can I go on it for 2 weeks and then get off it.I got a book from my drug councillor yesterday.But didn't see that in it,I will look again.Gnarly,thanks for the help and I will stay intouch.When I get back I will write you and tell you what happen to us.Does methadone make you smoke like the Oxy's does.when i am coming off the oxy's I don't smoke but as soon as I get one in me I smoke like The # 9 train did years ago Love always sickofit586 and wife  

[ang_811]

I've had methadone and I'm currently tappering from suboxone. From my experience suboxone is so much bettr for u mind and easier to get off of.

[gnarly_1]

hey dude...well I dont know how short of time you can spend on the stuff I  was using it for pain management and was on it a long time for that reason...it wasn't till it quit working and my substance abuse conslor sugjested I try and get off of it that the real problems started....just use it as a tool to get off the oxy...use it as short of time as possible..and keep your dose as low as possible ...seek out some sort of aftercare and start to build up a solid foundation wile your addiction is on hold...I have herd of heroin addicts only spending 45 days on the stuff so that would be short term at least wile your on it you wont crave the pills and you can get some normalcy back in your life good luck to you keep posting so we know how it goes for you
and when its time to get off it I will still be here for you...God bless
.....Gnarly  

[sickofit586]

   Thanks man I will keep you informed.Its important to me to stay intouch with you guys.Not long now,had a 80 this morning a I now want another but the hell with it sick or not at least I see a light at the end of the tunnel MAYBE! I don't realy know maybe some hope.We too only did the pills to kill the pain but then we found out the more you take the better you feel.That is so wrong,Look where we are at now.Had to tell my doctor that I was going to the clinic on Saturday and he said well thats the end of my pills.You would think he would let me have them until I adjust with the methadone.But I suppose I really don't care anymore.Just want away from the Demons.Damm this better work for us Thanks for listening you me til next time sickofit586

[medic09]

I don't understand why any worthwhile dr would put anyone on methadone. I have been a healthcare provider for many years and have never, EVER had one patient on methadone who was able to kick it. I know people out there have; I just haven't ever seen one. And I know a lot of people, including myself, who have successfully kicked the oxy habit. Something to think about. The stats just don't support methadone. And don't ever say you're not a strong enough person - because you are! Anyone can do it, as long as you choose to. That's the secret! Don't think you can do methadone for 2 weeks and then stop. You will STILL have to detox! And an oxy taper is WAY easier than a methadone taper.

[johnnyv987]

What should I do, I am in pain management as of right now and are prescribed to percocet. I don’t want to be on pain pills the rest of my life and don’t want to mess my liver up. I deal with chronic pain, I am wondering what to do, should I ask my doctor for methadone because its used for chronic pain and doesn’t abuse the liver like opiates do. I think if I were on 40mgs and took it as a split dose, where i took 20mgs in the morning and 20mgs in the evening would work. With opiates, you build up a tolerance and soon the perks wont work. Whereas methadone you don’t build a tolerance for it and it helps with pain. I’m going to have pain for the rest of my life and I am only 25, already had surgery, which helped with the nerve pain but now i just have chronic pain and aches. My doctor even said that I wouldn’t be fully pain-free. What’s wrong with being on methadone instead of opiates especially if it helps with pain? I am at a crossroads because I was addicted to opiates before my surgery because of self-medicating due to back pain. I rather take methadone than having to keep upping my dose of percocet or even having to take something more potent than percocet.

[gnarly_1]

HI...you do build up a tolerence to methadone also it is an opiate I was put on it for pain management went  from 30 mg to 150ml over a 6yr period then it quit working all together
leaving me with a huge addiction to break free from.....hands down methadone is the worst of the narcotics to break free from the withdrawals last for months not weeks I would run the other way if I was ever offered it again do yourself a favor and stay away from this drug
good luck and God bless......Gnarly

[crashtestaddict]

You can successfully withdraw from methadone as I have done it. And I was a heroin addict for 36 years, and then developed P.A.D. in my legs later in life where the pain is excruciating when I walk a short distance.

However, I went from 87mgs liquid, all the way down to nothing by having the dose lowered 3 mgs every three weeks. At each and every dosage reduction, I had a couple of nights of weird dreams, a very slight edginess, and that was it. On top of that, I was on Xanax for panic attacks taking one .50 mgs twice daily. Never abused them throughout that MMT reduction.

MMT can and does work wonders for people, and some belifs here are totally misguided. You either do not understand addiction, dependence, or pain management sufficiently to form an opinion about methadone, or you have some personal problem with the drug.

BTW, I was also a substance abuse counselor at top tx center in Detroit several years ago, so I am not just blowing smoke.

MMT has saved a lot of people from going to prison, with pain management, and also kept them from dying using illicit substances. I am one of those. As for pain management, it is a tool that just may need to be used. It is a whole lot better than running the frickin' streets, or even doctor shopping, trying to find your drug of choice when you become dependent on the opiates, or have a full-blown addiction, or even turn dependence into a full-blown addiction. There is a huge distinction in the difference.

People can get off of methadone if done properly. However, those receiving it for pain management obviously need something, and methadone is one of the safest drugs around. It one of the most studied drugs ever, and it's safety, IF TAKEN PROPERLY, is unmatched. Oxy's, Vics, Percs, and the other prescribed narcotics in that class usually have other ingredients in them like acetominophen which will fry your liver, just to name one organ, because of the huge amount of pills many people take.

Yes methadone has some horrid withdrawals. I know, I kicked a 100mg a day habit on that stuff "cold turkey" in a county jail and it wasn't nothing nice to say the least. It lasted a long time. Six months later, I was still not right, and eventually relapsed back to heroin. But that was years ago.

In any event, I feel for these people subjectively, but also understand what they are going through in that way, and also can look at it objectively.

I now write about substance abuse, although most people in this forum are dealing with pain management, and dependence issues. However, there can be a very thin line between dependence and addiction, and crossing over can happen in a heartbeat.  

I do understand what you guys are going through, and you do what you have to do to improve the quality of your life. The operative term here is "Quality of Life."

MMT can and does work, but it is not a drug to play with.  

[benny64]

I was on methadone for 20rs due to being a hard core herion addict. I kicked it in prison. 16 months of feeling like **** and never did really get over it. It's the worst and I would not recommend it to my enemies. Go to a Dr that can prescribe subutex or suboxone. That's what I take now and I like it much better then methadone. It gives you a little energy and gives you a feeling like things are alright. Methadone does none of that. It drains you,tired all the time. Take it from someone who's been there. The clinics are not a good environment either.