Clean or not

[hollys]

Hello I have a question for all of you and I am asking that you please be 100% honest where you think it will upset someone or not. I am on methadone and clean from all other drugs. All I take is Methadone one time a day. I am told that I am now clean but a lot of people look at it as not being clean. Not Methadone has saved my life, family, homes and self respect etc.... I do not get high on methadone and can't abuse the program. So my question to you is am I clean or not in your honest answer PLEASE

[christos24]

thats good to here, message me your stroy soemtime...i definitely believe NA, group, and therapy meetings are crucial in recovering and staying clean, but the hiding of being in treatment bothers me, and not all of the 12 steps I follow exactly, but thats whatspecial about NA is that YOU make up a treatment plan that works for you, you jsut keep hsuh hush about treatment issues....i do love hearing others experiences and the positive info and the negative sides of things, i really believe that regardless if your in a suboxone treatment program or methadone treatment that group meetings where theya re all in some sort of treatment is teh msot helpful in recovery. you can get down to teh core issues of exactly waht cravigns for what drugs youa re ahving, etc...thanks mtgoat911-christos24

[mtgoat911]

christos, just read your bio, saw you just started methadone
that certainly explains a few things
just wanted to let you know that i was on methadone for 10 years
and i could relate to your story
xo

[mtgoat911]

i attended na meetings on matinence drugs
i talked about it to people, found many who had been there
i did not talk about it in meetings, because it is agiasnt na traditions
these drugs, along with psyc. meds are considered "outside issues"
and when i do refer to them i say my "outside issues" are bothering me
but i am not the type to get drug specific in meetings
to me, its not what you were addicted to
its all about what you want to do about it
sometimes when i share my store i do refer to methadone as liquid hand cuffs
but i never go into a whole lot of using stories or specifics
usually stick with my experience
what happened, why i got clean and what its like now
there is nothing sad about this thread
the theraputic value of one addict helping another is without parallel
xo

[christos24]

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF A MAJORITY THINK YOU ARE DIRTY, YOU ARE NOT TAPERING OFF YOUr STREET DRUG OR DOC, YOU ARE NOT RELAPSING, YOU ARE ON A MEDICALLY SUPERVISED TREATMENT PLAN AND STICKING TO JusT THAT, YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELF AND CELEBRATE YOUR RECOVERY SO FAR!!!...people need to do some research on this matter, some of these post and poll answers are far fetched and absolutely outrageous....wow, america..wow..THIS IS SAD-christos

[christos24]

along with avisg, regardless of what the poll determines as far as percentages go, you are clean if you are sticking to YOUR treatment plan, not taking any other mood altering substances, i mean ANY others, even alcohol, marijuana, anything..if you are taking just the methadone alotted to you daily properly, then you are clean and in recovery..you are doing a great job and should be extremely proud regardless if someone believes you arent clean because of methadone, they have different skewed opinions and need to keep their mouths to themselves...the question reminded me of NAmeetings..if you are on suboxone treatment or MMT(methadone treatment) you are supposed to keep that "hush hush", and not tell anyone about it in the open and alone, cuz you are considered not clean and considered "using"..its bogus and sad, they want you to get off pain killers or H, but if your in treatment they shun you away, its silly and ridiculous and anyone in recovery should be aware of that nonsense, even funnier, a meeting i was in, someone severely broke theyre arm was already on suboxone treatment, apotent pain killer, but was questioning cuz of the "pain" whether he should go along with the doctors and be put on ms contin(morphine) and norcos(hydrocodone) and all the members werre ok with that because it was prescribed and medically supervised...ISNT THAT WHAT METHADONE CLINICS ARE?! Lets jsut say I was just a little outraged-youll know if you are clean or not, its how you feel inside, and youll know it...christos

[mtgoat911]

my family hated me on methadone, infact i lost custody of my childen as a result of methaodne and "other" matinence drugs
i personally was unable to function on them, not like i can clean
but thats my experience
when i did get off mmt and ".............", my husband decided that he would stay on mmt
i got sick of watching him nod out, and eventually had to remove myself from the situation
your family knows you better than we do, if they are noticing that you are not clean, maybe they have  a better perspective
you stated that all is well, you mentioned that methadone has saved your family, yet your other post shares that your family has a problem with you on the methadone
you also talk about methadone restoring your self-esteem, but you are on here feeling some shame
not trying to get in your face over all this
i have been a part of several interventions my own and others
delt with many mmt patients, including myself, the inability to see reality can be damaged by matinence drugs
sometimes its hard to see the truth......even in recovery
so do not beat yourself up
you know your parents love you, even if they think you are dirty, ask a few other people who know you AND are not using, listen to them
and ask yourself
"what do i want?"
xo