how much longer??? Yeah same old Question :)

[soleil518]

I guess in my last post I didn't specify the main question. I appreciate ALL info (trust me), but I just want to know everyone's input on how long this torture will last.
God bless.

[sierragold]

no worries,
soleil now sierragold (don't ask)

[0421]

sloei518 I hope you didn't think I was harsh, I sure didn't mean it to. I never want to be mean to anyone on here. I need everyone here, it has meant so much to me to have this forum, it has been my life line and please if I offended you forgive me. good luck and prayers to you

[sierragold]

thanks so much. do u think i should take a xanax? I think I know the answer already! But I can't relax at all today. I have two from "a friend".

[Dav125]

Just hang on and do whatever it takes to get days behind you. I guarantee once you break the 20 day mark, the sun will begin to shine more than it has in a long time for you..Some of the anxiousness will continue to bug you, but outside that, the feelings you will have come back to you will be like a breath of fresh air...Making all this so worth the effort once there to reflect back..Hope you get feeling a little better toward the latter part of the day. I had days start that su*ked, but by afternoon things smoothed out. And then I had the reverse happen during the first couple of weeks as well...You'll make it,,I can here it in your words :)

[petroglyph54]

Not sure if the nights are worse than the days. It seems like it till the day comes? No, I'm going with the nights being worse, when sleep just won't come. We've all been there. It will get better! You are seeing some improvement's right? Day 6-8? It's starting to lose it's terrible hold on you but still plans on messing with you as long as it can. Did you have sleep issues before? Type in "sleep etiquette", might seem silly, but I guess my years of using made me forget lots of things, like how to sleep and why it used to come so innocently. It's mostly about heeling your mind and body now. Keep pushing the fluids and good nutrition, your mind needs the building blocks to repair itself. The nasty part is hopefully just about over. Many say and I agree, sleep is about the last thing to return. Pat yourself on the back for getting this far.

[sierragold]

Slept ok last night(finally) as my doc has me on librium for the anxiety and to help me sleep. honestly though it's like taking asprin for me. Guess my tolerance is still high for everything? I actually DID do some laundry last night! One thing I can't handle is dirty anything. Just hope I can make it through cuz I feel like sh** today!

[Dav125]

Its always worse at night because normally it is our reat time and these 45mins here, 1/2 hr there spell of "dazed sleep" I guess it could be called really get aggrevating. About the only way I even got a gauge on what sleep I may have gotten came in the form of a dream I would remember bits and pieces of..Then, somewhere around the two week mark I wasn't having any and that kinda drove me nuts as I had lost my gauge..One night you might get a couple hrs, maybe 3, and the next one of those constant glance at the clock nights..Once you get past the 2-1/2 to 3 week mark it start coming back pretty quick..Try to avoid naps during the day and get increments of exercise as best you can during the day. Sleep will improve for you but is just going to take a little longer..Its a struggle I know..A number of evenings I just threw a movie on and stared at it. Thatwas better than staring at the ceiling..:)..

Just keep counting those days and keep moving forward. When the aggrevating thoughts come at you, find a diversion. Even if its a walk to the mailbox, throwing some laundry in the washing machine, get a broom and sweep just for the heck of it,,get a piece of wood and take a piece of sandpaper and just sand on it for the H*ll of it...Anything.

Little by little things are getting better for you..Its hard to notice right now though. Within a week you will be able to sense it happening more and more, then the week afTer that ,it will be very apparent to you...Especially Sleep!

[sierragold]

Thanks for all the sound advise (by the way had to change name- from soleil, as I forgot my password and COULD NOT log back in!) just to keep u on your toes! Anyway does it always seem worse at night? It's 1am here and I just wanna sleep!

[Dav125]

Today should be your 6th day isn't it? Thats great(forget about the slip with your mom,,I'm not counting that as backing up)..

At first it was one day, now it is six, and soon to be many more..:)..If you can find the time, taking short walks that elevate your breathing some come to play now..Not overly exerting, but just enough to get your blood moving some..It feels tough at first, but it has a side effect of relieving some of the stress and anxiety in your system..

[soleil518]

ok ok

[soleil518]

You rock! Helps to just read your posts. So thanks for taking the time!

[soleil518]

yeah I can understand the confusion with the two threads. Guess it was the WAY it was said. Maybe I'm a bit too sensitive right now. Like maybe,
"hey Soleil, can you just stick to one thread so we don't get confused?"
Anyway that's OVER. Lets move on.....
This morning I feel cills, freeeeezzzzing oh and a migrane from the pits of hell!!
How's everyone else?hahahahaha

[vicki595]

Soleil518~

When someone posts a thread,it makes it much easier for other members to respond if there is just one thread going. Multiple threads makes everything confusing. We answer a question on one thread and then there's another thread popping up and it becomes a back and forth thing with info lost.

I was simply trying to point that out. We do love it when folks stick to one thread!

It was just a kindly reminder. This is stated in the "terms of use agreement" which you read and agreed to when you became a member. I meant no offense. I know this is a vulnerable time for you and I,in no way,want to add to your anxiety.

[Dav125]

I'll bet there are some..Never asked the question myself but odds are there has to be..Our community leaders in a way could be considered sponsors in many ways...:)

[Dav125]

No,no,no,,throw that boring statement out..It is not boring to us..In the worst of this we try to divirt someone's attention from the wd's as best we can..The feelings flat out s**k and we all know what they taste like...Its a move /countermove thing in a way..Talking is one of the best ways to deal with it during this time..Set your focus on getting the day done and the next started. Before you know it, you "will" be looking back and it will be behind you..I know its hard to believe or feel this right now but keep moving, just keep your eye on the prize...

[soleil518]

this is probably a crazy question, but are there sponsors on here?

[Dav125]

Hey, the good news is you are just about over the worst of this early portion of the wd's when feeling are really working overtime..It will continue some (meaning a growlly mood,), but will slowly turn around for you..I feel for you right now as I know exactly where your at right now..I had to eat that crow three times before finally ending the rollercoaster at the first of January..Try some advil and a hot shower..The shower does help give you some temp relief during this stage. I'd take two or three sometimes during the day to get that cloud off my head....Just hang in there..Time will start moving faster for you real soon...Just hang on..It does get better..

[soleil518]

Oh and by the way, I did not expect a day and time. just a few telling me their stories of the w/d ti,e THEY took etc...
but thanks anyway. I can see this getting boring for you all!!!!

[soleil518]

DIDN'T MEAN TO CONFUSE YOU. YOU WERE ONE OF THE FEW WITH SOUND ADVISE. IT WAS THE "GEEEEE WE JUST LOVE TO START A NEW THREAD" AND "IT WILL LAST AS LONG AS IT LASTS" ...THAT OTHERS POSTED.
SORRY

[Dav125]

Since we are staying active in this thread verse's the other Solei, this is what I had written in the other post in case you didn't see it at the time...

First 3 or 4 days are really the worst for any hard physical symptoms like a severe case of the flu..After that, its underlying anxiety, restlessness, insomnia, emotions running wild at times for couple more weeks. Around the three week mark things stabilize some with energy and sleep coming back online so to speak..There may be lingering issues with depressed days at times as these drugs do knock a person's brain chemistry out of wack some. It takes time for it to get back to reproducing chemicals it was naturally regulating prior to the opiate use which changed the equations..Thats a quick overview of what your looking at..

[Dav125]

Solie , I really don't understand why you would say something about "are we this harsh on anyone that asks your type of question?" Which I took to mean"how long can I expect these symptoms to persist?"..Did I mis-read the original intent of your first go at seeking an answer to a question?...

Because what I thought you were asking I answered as best I could in your other post and 10 minutes later you post this new thread saying,,"is anybody going to answer my question?..

I'm not trying to pick at you, I'm trying to figure out if your question was something other than I perceived it to be when you asked for some feedback about this process in your "Messed up again! Morphine!!! thread...For me, you starting this thread had me confused as to "did I miss something here?"..Dav

[sudie58]

hi kel,its great you posted, if you want any help, or answers its best to start a thread , go to ask a question at top of page, and tell us some more, best wishes,

[Kel1979]

In South Africa there is a drug called Napacod. It's available OTC, has 10mg of codeine and 500mg of Paracetamol, in packs of 100. I've been using these for about 9 years now. Dosages depend on my emotional state, oh...and financial position. I take about 10 - 13 tablets a time, 3 to 4 times a day. At one stage I was taking about 56 tablets a day.

What struck me most was a post I read here about counting your tablets. It rang such a pathetic bell in my head, counting my tablets, thinking to myself, "okay, 25 tablets left, and no way to get to a pharmacy today. That means I can take 8 tablets, breakfast, lunch and supper". I bargain with myself, knowing full well that I won't be able to limit myself in reality. I constantly think about these cursed tablets! They are a pink nightmare.

I remember so clearly when I became addicted. Are these little "watershed" moments common? I mean, my addiction to Napacod consumes my thoughts, all day, every day. Madness!

[sudie58]

hi, i just wanted to wish you well, the detox wont go on forever, but you know that anyway, no ones being harsh just truthful, we are on your side, and here for you, hang on in there, take care and god bless,