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Fighting over Vicodin
These Pills are horrible in sooo many ways yet the cravings are insane. I had given the pills to my fiancee to help me control how many i take. Well It was supposed to be like 2 7.5 vicodinES maybe 3 times a day. Well this morning first dose I told her please give me 3 and then the rest will be only 2 i PROMISE! Well doese 2 comes up and i ask for 3 again. She says no hundred times and I just dont take no for an answer. She got so frustrated that she threw the bottle at me and left the house saying do whatever the f@@k you want. So what do I do?: I pop 4 of them. How pathetic... I dont expect kind words, or nice responses because so many are actually trying to quit. I on the other hand am just bailing out. Whoever reads this that is actually withdrawling right now, use this as a reason to stay clean and keep working it. See how bad of decisions we can make because of these damn pills?!!!!!! GGOD LUCK TO EVERYONE THAT IS DOING IT! GOD BLESS
What the heck do you expect? That is a heavy weight you put on her. If you really want to get clean...you are going to have to do some footwork.
I know that.. I am just using this forum to share in truth as apposed to hiding all the lies I usually keep to myself. I hope one day I can be as strong as some others on here. But she does have every right to get pissed off.
I think we keep taking more because sub-consciously we want to get rid of them. Do you want to stop or have a nice and neat maintainence program? 3 every 4 hours for the rest of your life? Do you think you get get your chick to go for that....Be The Dispenser or something? I know I sound nasty, but I am trying to get you to jump the track with your thought processes here. You can quit. It might take 3 months, 3 weeks or a year from when you really decide to do it. But the seed is planted, see? If you don't want to quit, but use, then picture this: You girl has the bottle, and she gives you 3 every 3 hours - No, 3 every 2 hours. That's not right, 4 every 3 hours. Shoot, she just left, and you are taking 5 every 90 minutes. It's your choice. Please keep in touch. When you want to stop, we will be here.
I get what you are saying. Right now I have NO Doctor to precribe me the meds. At one time I was on 2 40mg oxycontin 2 20mg oxycontin and 3-4 10mg percoset per day along with klonopin 1mg 2 times a day. To be honest when I was taking my meds the way they should be taken my life quality was great, but I have a problem with abusing them. So at this point I am not sure if I want to try and get back on the meds LEGALLY and try and take them right, or just try to stop altogather. But my life even clean without pills is a painful one. That makes for a pretty sh!tty day as well. VERY HARD THING TO DO! Thanks for the concern.
I know what you mean. I stopped using exactly 1 month and 3 days ago. It was wonderful. I was in extreme discomfort, because I really need some type of paon pill. But I got off the the Vicodin, and was taking muscle relaxants which was ok. Not great but doable. Then Wednesday, I got 5 Norco's from my daughter. Did 4 that night and had 1 Thursday. That day at work was hell - I was going through full . blown w/d. So, last night, I went and found me 15 Norco's. Did e' almost all, too. I have 3 left. Can't sleep because the drug makes me speed. And here I am again, going through w/d's!!! It doesn't get easier, it just gets harder. and I am suprised that I am going through this at all, I only did it for a few days. I guess that is the nature of our addiction. So, let's hang out together today. We can do this, right?
So it sounds like you are saying you will fight to stay on the the pills rather than fight to get off. Who will feed you your then, your fiancee is not going to do it after today. You couldn't stick to the taper today so how are you going to take them as prescribed? I hope your financee can hang in there with you because she is having a hard time seeing the real you and how long do you think she will wait?
Do you think things will get better for you in 1 month or 1 year. Thats the lie I kept telling myself, as I had to keep changing jobs because of poor performance, relationship GONE with my wife, bills piling up etc. No one likes to hear this but you are going downhill my friend and if you want to wait untill you get to the bottom than so be it, the bottom will be waiting for you and it's not a pretty place to be. What's it going to take to light that fire under your *ss to see where your are? All those words were said to me but i wanted both my drugs and still looking for the light at the end of the tunnel and when i got to the light it was a train! I wish you the very best in whatever you decide to do.
Do you think things will get better for you in 1 month or 1 year. Thats the lie I kept telling myself, as I had to keep changing jobs because of poor performance, relationship GONE with my wife, bills piling up etc. No one likes to hear this but you are going downhill my friend and if you want to wait untill you get to the bottom than so be it, the bottom will be waiting for you and it's not a pretty place to be. What's it going to take to light that fire under your *ss to see where your are? All those words were said to me but i wanted both my drugs and still looking for the light at the end of the tunnel and when i got to the light it was a train! I wish you the very best in whatever you decide to do.
Yeah , funny how taking the pills makes everythng ok no matter what the situation. cold turkey and massive vitamins , hot baths and sobbing along with prayer helps the most. Norco or whatever opiate your on certainly puts a feeling of well being in you and gives plent of enery. Hell it may be the cure for depression and anxiety disorders. 3 days is the hell ride and then finding yourself again could be the challenge. I discovered I am the same person on the stuff as I am off it , but my the perception of my self is much diffrent on it than off it. I am much more comfortable being a goof ball on the Norco. I am much more comfortable letting my work slide on the Norco, but I do not realize it, I think I am performing at peak performance on it but I am not.
I believe in the abilities of the medician, it takes pain away for me so quickly and effectively I call it a miracle. I can not live with the addiction though and the feeling that without it , I am not me....when it is actually just the opposite.
No matter how many times I try to control the daily dose , I always go over and am always short before the next refill. Need energy, take the norco, need increased personalty boost , take a Norco, Not sure when I am was taking it for pain anymore???? I do have pain , chronic but If I cant limit my dose to the prescribed allowance then I am an addict aren't I. I struglled for a long long time with this and it took time to retrain my mind to understand the addiction. ecspecially when there is a legitimate reason for taking it. I started taking it for pain and instantly no longer had to take depression medications anymore. Norco cured me of anxiety and depression , even after stopping taking it.
Sure the first 3 days are hard. take alot of Hot Baths and you will have the Runs and stomach aches and you will feel like your world has ended. But it has just begun, after 3 days you'll find yourself doing the stuff you used to enjoy before your started taking it, I caught my self singiing in the shower, writing songs and poems, stuff I didn't think about for 6 years suddenly popped back into my head as if it was yesterday. I began to remember who I was.
The Norco does work very effectivly for Pain and Depression and Anxiety and maybe the addiction is the trade off for some people. But Norco shuts part of you off. It shuts of little aspects of your personality.
Anyway just mentaly perpare to suffer, because it is through suffering that we gain wisdom and grow. I could not do it without Jesus. No way No how. I would just weep to him to help me , ofcourse if he just snapped his fingers and I was healed , what would I have learned. I learned a great deal about who I am through the suffrering of withdrawl. Man or Woman Up and be victorious. Its time to grow up my friend
I believe in the abilities of the medician, it takes pain away for me so quickly and effectively I call it a miracle. I can not live with the addiction though and the feeling that without it , I am not me....when it is actually just the opposite.
No matter how many times I try to control the daily dose , I always go over and am always short before the next refill. Need energy, take the norco, need increased personalty boost , take a Norco, Not sure when I am was taking it for pain anymore???? I do have pain , chronic but If I cant limit my dose to the prescribed allowance then I am an addict aren't I. I struglled for a long long time with this and it took time to retrain my mind to understand the addiction. ecspecially when there is a legitimate reason for taking it. I started taking it for pain and instantly no longer had to take depression medications anymore. Norco cured me of anxiety and depression , even after stopping taking it.
Sure the first 3 days are hard. take alot of Hot Baths and you will have the Runs and stomach aches and you will feel like your world has ended. But it has just begun, after 3 days you'll find yourself doing the stuff you used to enjoy before your started taking it, I caught my self singiing in the shower, writing songs and poems, stuff I didn't think about for 6 years suddenly popped back into my head as if it was yesterday. I began to remember who I was.
The Norco does work very effectivly for Pain and Depression and Anxiety and maybe the addiction is the trade off for some people. But Norco shuts part of you off. It shuts of little aspects of your personality.
Anyway just mentaly perpare to suffer, because it is through suffering that we gain wisdom and grow. I could not do it without Jesus. No way No how. I would just weep to him to help me , ofcourse if he just snapped his fingers and I was healed , what would I have learned. I learned a great deal about who I am through the suffrering of withdrawl. Man or Woman Up and be victorious. Its time to grow up my friend
I am in full withdrawal as I type this. Upset stomach, no energy. But the emotional withdrawal is always by far the worst for me. I have fought all day to not cry. I can't talk without my voice breaking. The tears well up and I fight like hell to stay composed. What a tough guy, huh? Merry Christmas, huh? I have done this all before. I started seeing a shrink for help. Another Dr. in his office is certified to prescribe Suboxone, but I don't know whether to try it or not. It's just masking the problem, I think. I know why I keep going back. The quick fix is better than this hell I feel right now. My wife just left for work and I have three kids to take care of on my own through this. I know the time will pass, but this is complete hell. SEVERE depression. Hydrocodone is prison for those of us who choose to misuse. Good luck to anyone else suffering these withdrawals.
I am sufferind from WD day 3 My mom is a nurse and I finally told her today and to my suprise she knew exactly when I started abusing. She had a solution. She sent me to a Homeopathic Pharmacy. The lady gave me a box for 26.99 called Ultimate Detox and Cleanse (By: Micheal's Naturopathic Programs) 3 doses a day with food and lots of water. I am on dose 2 for the day and 50% of the WD symptoms have subsided. Find It it works. I am going to go throught the 2 weeks like the box recomends and supplies. It supposedly removes the chemical toxins of Vicodin through urine excretion. My legs have been killing me restless as all hell and she gave me a small bottle of "Restless Legs" (By: Hylands) it is a Homepathic tablet that disolves under your tounge and wow is helped so much. Have faith, have GOD and all will be better. I am here to if you need to chat. I am a strong business man whop cannot be beat, but I let a small pill whip me nd now I will whip it.
That is awesome man!!! I have had that confidence before just to relapse over and over again. I hope I can find strength in all of you to finally kick this sh!T
I went through 20 7.5mg vicodin in less than a day, and now I am going to go spend another $50 to get 20 more.
Keep in mind these things have 750mg of tylenol as well, and I am afraid of the possible affects it will have as well. I guess not enough to stop taking them though right?> It's the story of my life though.
I went through 20 7.5mg vicodin in less than a day, and now I am going to go spend another $50 to get 20 more.
Keep in mind these things have 750mg of tylenol as well, and I am afraid of the possible affects it will have as well. I guess not enough to stop taking them though right?> It's the story of my life though.
you can stop them. We are not sick until we start thnking we are the only ones with the problem. Really good Omega 3 Fish Oil helps too. I get the Mega Greens and Omega 3 from Purity Products---not endorsing them--- but it cut down on the withdrawl issues big time but the sleep issue is the hardest you just can't sleep or stay asleep for a few days. It sucks waking up too, but take the vitamins when you wake where you used to take the vicodin to even get out of bed :-) see I know what its like.
Thanks for the advice on the fish oil. I had someone else post somewhere(not sure) but talked about a detox kit all naturall that she said it cut down 50% on the withdrawl. I am going to find it and make sure to save it. I will use a combination of everything that people have said that helps. Thanks for all the support and kind words(EVEN THOUGH i DONT DESERVE THEM!
You are not a monster because you are addicted to the pill. Thats a side effect of taking them. Its normal . You deserve the kind words. For most pain sufferers its either the pain or the addiction. We have to choose. The thing about opiates is they leave your system so fast you start withdrawl 8-12 hours after your last dose, so to stop the feeling we take another pill. Thats why after a nghts sleep the first thing most do is reach for a pill. There is a stigma that people just do not understand. Stay focused and know the worst of it is over after 3 to 4 days ...you can do that , and after a week you'll be 99% there. oh and its just flippin doit :-)
Sorry for destroying your name! It really was an accident. Right now I am so lost ans so confused. I think I want one thing then I do another. I am scared to quit, and yet scared to keep this up. I am glad to have others than have walked in my shoes to help me find the light. But right now It is dark as f****! I hopr you have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS! I know I will be on a low dose of vicodin, only because I cant find anything stronger until the 28th(i hope) see already eyes set on more pills. Well on here at least I am being honest with my addiction as apposed to lying to everyone. Thanks to everyone who cares enough to reply to me. I know I seem like a lost cause, and I am sure it pisses alot of people off to hear the way I do things.
This is something I always bring up when people say let a loved one hold your pills.Not saying that it cant be done but it can put tremendous stress on a relationship. We all talk about the things weve done and the lies and manipulation to friends and strangers then we say give your pills to the one person who is most likely to give in thru love, especially when pain is involved.Maybe we should let someone who doesnt like us hold them lol,,,just some thoughts
You have to believe that you can do it. And YOU CAN!! My husband and I are both addicted to Lortabs and have recently quit c/t. It was a really rough few days. The urges were killing me. I would start feeling depressed and I knew if I just had one I would feel better. But I stuck it out and so can you. Every time I would get the urge, I would log on here and talk to people. It really helped. I too do not talk about my problem to ANYONE so this made a world of difference to me. Today we are on Day5 and I woke up today really feeling like there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I feel better with more energy. I know I do not know you but I know you can do it. Please believe in yourself.
I spoke to a lady on here that was telling me about how her husband accidentally OD'd taking pills and she found him dead. I know you do not want you fiance to find you like this one day. She would never forgive herself, she would think maybe there was something she could have did to help you. I know you dont want this to happen.
We had to call everyone that we were getting them from and tell them not to call us. Because if they called us we would not be able to say no. So everyone pretty much stopped calling and we were able to push through. And yesterday we had someone call and offer them and we turned them down. I was so proud that we could do that.
I will stop rambling. But Good Luck and believe in yourself!!!
I spoke to a lady on here that was telling me about how her husband accidentally OD'd taking pills and she found him dead. I know you do not want you fiance to find you like this one day. She would never forgive herself, she would think maybe there was something she could have did to help you. I know you dont want this to happen.
We had to call everyone that we were getting them from and tell them not to call us. Because if they called us we would not be able to say no. So everyone pretty much stopped calling and we were able to push through. And yesterday we had someone call and offer them and we turned them down. I was so proud that we could do that.
I will stop rambling. But Good Luck and believe in yourself!!!
I am on Day 2 and actually feel ok today. Yesterday was hell, but I'm making it through today ok. I don't know what tomorrow will bring, but I'll face it. I took vitamins, branch-chain amino acids, exercised, drank some green tea, took a nice, hot shower, and a few Klonopin. I also tried to stay busy. And my Bears were on today and played awesome!! Too bad they decide to play good when it's too late. Ahh, the troubles of being a sports fan in Chicago....Good luck and I am working towards day 3!
Man! its nice to know Im not "the only one".. alot of the things you guys said, is how I live everyday. You guys nailed it to a "T". thanks for your words............
Get up right now and look in the mirror. I mean really look into your own eyes for a few minutes. You can do this. its time.
Trust the lord with all your heart; and lean not on your own understandng ; in all your ways acknowledge him and he will guide your paths.
Don't mean to convert you or anything but I am always closest to god in my suffering; kind of makes me want to stay there close to him.
I made my little Norco my God though, 10mg of well being and then I would take tylenol rapid release 500 mg to try and boost the effect. Man I was killing myself. who knows the damage I did to my liver. I am serous I was doing about 120mg of Norco and then 5500mg of tylenol to try and boost the Norco. I have a wife and a son whom I love dearly. Let me tell you my friend get a hold of it now or you will ruin your life and horribly damage all those who love you. YOU DO NOT NEED IT.
Trust the lord with all your heart; and lean not on your own understandng ; in all your ways acknowledge him and he will guide your paths.
Don't mean to convert you or anything but I am always closest to god in my suffering; kind of makes me want to stay there close to him.
I made my little Norco my God though, 10mg of well being and then I would take tylenol rapid release 500 mg to try and boost the effect. Man I was killing myself. who knows the damage I did to my liver. I am serous I was doing about 120mg of Norco and then 5500mg of tylenol to try and boost the Norco. I have a wife and a son whom I love dearly. Let me tell you my friend get a hold of it now or you will ruin your life and horribly damage all those who love you. YOU DO NOT NEED IT.
Man, I have looked in the mirror like you said before and I can't even see myself anymore, at least my true self. I have taken 50 7.5 750mg vicodin in the past 2 days and the night isnt even over. Imagine what that is doing to my liver. I appriaciate the confidence you have to say I can do it. But at this point I JUST CANT! or better put I just CHOOSE NOT TO! Which is the cowards way out. Thanks for the support. Maybe one day I can find strength like you have. Congratulations on your sobriety! GOD BLESS AND MERRY CHRISTMAS! I am going to go bake some peanut butter balls with my fiancee and mother and law.
If there is one thing that I've learned is that you can do it. Hiding under the fog of hydro's is the true you, I know this because I was soo lost, and numb by them. Alot of us have chronic pain, I am hurting right now, but have no desire to take. I know that your day will come, you DO have it within yourself. And if you ever need anyone to "talk" to, please feel free.
BTW, nice Olds you got there, too bad it's not a Camaro:)
BTW, nice Olds you got there, too bad it's not a Camaro:)
Edit the second sentance to read "Hiding under the fog of hydro's is NOT the true you,"
I appologize for any misunderstanding of my post and am in no way dogging you, and am trying to pull my foot out of my typing hand:)
I appologize for any misunderstanding of my post and am in no way dogging you, and am trying to pull my foot out of my typing hand:)
That is a pontiac custom, but close guess. I had a 1968 Rally Sport Camero 2 door hard top. I will post it to my name when I can. I agree Camero's RULE! Thanks for the kind words.
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