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Found CBD Cannabis Oil at our local health shop
Just bought some CBD oil.
Understand I'm not looking for something new to get addicted to but done some major reading on this in the past. I want aware it was even legal to buy here in Alabama (2nd state to legalize it) but I'm willing to give it a shot. It's supposed to help with not only cancer and tumors but anxiety, inflammatory issues and other small problems. I used to smoke pot and remember it always helped me when I was having headaches or my calves burning. I am no way encouraging any kind of drugs but I will write down what I feel like and give a report on it. If I feel like this is helpful then it could be something natural that can be helpful to others in recovery.
I would like anyone's input please, I want to make sure this is a safe product to use to help with recovery. If it's not then I will not want to continue this use. I will listen to all constructive criticism, I feel it will be necessary in this.
Thanks ((John))
Understand I'm not looking for something new to get addicted to but done some major reading on this in the past. I want aware it was even legal to buy here in Alabama (2nd state to legalize it) but I'm willing to give it a shot. It's supposed to help with not only cancer and tumors but anxiety, inflammatory issues and other small problems. I used to smoke pot and remember it always helped me when I was having headaches or my calves burning. I am no way encouraging any kind of drugs but I will write down what I feel like and give a report on it. If I feel like this is helpful then it could be something natural that can be helpful to others in recovery.
I would like anyone's input please, I want to make sure this is a safe product to use to help with recovery. If it's not then I will not want to continue this use. I will listen to all constructive criticism, I feel it will be necessary in this.
Thanks ((John))
I would like to know how the CBD oil did for you? Did it work for what you needed?
I have about 3 years and half in recovery, I agree with plow boy, in the end motives speak volumes, if you really want to get high, you get high. Personally I have tried Cbd with no thc or so little that I felt absolutely nothing. My pregnant friend was explaining how it helped her with pain and felt relief from hormones and she told me to try it, I was leery at first and she told me to trust her and that she wouldn't put my recovery in danger. I was curious and didn't understand how an oil from weed couldn't get you high and explained to her that I didn't want to get high. So I took one puff. Felt absolutely nothing. No high and if anything was relieved. Believe it or not I'm afraid of being high the idea makes me anxious. I am a very holistic person, do yoga, meditate, help others, eat extremely healthy and spent the first years of my recovery listening to my intuition and took supplements high in chlorophyll , fish oil stayed away from coffee and nicotine and pretty much did everything possible to regenerate health. With everything I do I suffer from paranoia, depression and social anxiety. I agree with others in not trading one mind altering substance for another, but why do I see so many people in rooms drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes , eating sugar which are extremely damaging to your nervous system acidic and toxic. These things are mind altering also, if you use them with the same motives as alcohol. And you are doing self harm this way as well. Sooo with that being said, the cbd didn't make me high in any way, but I really felt like a normal person the rest of the day and my reactions to my thoughts were easy to let go of. This is stuff is anti inflammatory and promotes neurogenisis and balance in the brain. I would try it again, possibly around my period when I tend to go crazy and have pain. Everything isn't so black and white, sobriety is checking motives and listening to your higher power, I am now at a place where I want to love myself , without taking pills. Or drinking. Heck I replacfed green tea with black coffee cause it's better for me , but it still gets me going. Doesn't mean I'm trying to get high. Just my thoughts from a recovery rookie.
I only consider myself clean from pills, I can't bring myself to say I'm clean as of yet.
I still hold firm that the oil works for the burning and the burning causes my anxiety so anxiety has stopped all together. This Friday I plan on going without for a week, I want to be sure it's not addictive.
I keep thinking about how I would smoke pot, when the kids came into my life I laid it down. I've used it from time to time when they would be at their mothers for the summer. I would always put it down for weeks at a time, I haven't used pot for a few years but can't recall having any cravings. Now I'm not on pills I feel I can tell if I will have any cravings for the week. I want to test all possible solutions to this, I've already made that step by purchasing the oil so I'm willing to look at this open minded. I've discussed what I'm doing with close family and friends, they are just as worried as I am but do support me.
I still hold firm that the oil works for the burning and the burning causes my anxiety so anxiety has stopped all together. This Friday I plan on going without for a week, I want to be sure it's not addictive.
I keep thinking about how I would smoke pot, when the kids came into my life I laid it down. I've used it from time to time when they would be at their mothers for the summer. I would always put it down for weeks at a time, I haven't used pot for a few years but can't recall having any cravings. Now I'm not on pills I feel I can tell if I will have any cravings for the week. I want to test all possible solutions to this, I've already made that step by purchasing the oil so I'm willing to look at this open minded. I've discussed what I'm doing with close family and friends, they are just as worried as I am but do support me.
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I have about 3 years and half in recovery, I agree with plow boy, in the end motives speak volumes, if you really want to get high, you get high. Personally I have tried Cbd with no thc or so little that I felt absolutely nothing. My pregnant friend was explaining how it helped her with pain and felt relief from hormones and she told me to try it, I was leery at first and she told me to trust her and that she wouldn't put my recovery in danger. I was curious and didn't understand how an oil from weed couldn't get you high and explained to her that I didn't want to get high. So I took one puff. Felt absolutely nothing. No high and if anything was relieved. Believe it or not I'm afraid of being high the idea makes me anxious. I am a very holistic person, do yoga, meditate, help others, eat extremely healthy and spent the first years of my recovery listening to my intuition and took supplements high in chlorophyll , fish oil stayed away from coffee and nicotine and pretty much did everything possible to regenerate health. With everything I do I suffer from paranoia, depression and social anxiety. I agree with others in not trading one mind altering substance for another, but why do I see so many people in rooms drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes , eating sugar which are extremely damaging to your nervous system acidic and toxic. These things are mind altering also, if you use them with the same motives as alcohol. And you are doing self harm this way as well. Sooo with that being said, the cbd didn't make me high in any way, but I really felt like a normal person the rest of the day and my reactions to my thoughts were easy to let go of. This is stuff is anti inflammatory and promotes neurogenisis and balance in the brain. I would try it again, possibly around my period when I tend to go crazy and have pain. Everything isn't so black and white, sobriety is checking motives and listening to your higher power, I am now at a place where I want to love myself , without taking pills. Or drinking. Heck I replacfed green tea with black coffee cause it's better for me , but it still gets me going. Doesn't mean I'm trying to get high. Just my thoughts from a recovery rookie.
Plowboy, you've helped me many many times and I support you all the way. Just wanted to add that my friend who has epilepsy and has break through seizures uses CBD oil and it helps her tremendously. I went so far as to buy a CBD pen and some oil but never used it. I was going to see if it would back th anxiety off, at the time I felt like there were snakes eating my insides. I ended up not using it due to finding out my company DOES test for cannabinoids in the random drug screenings. That gave me the willies about losing my job zo I gave it to my friend. It may have helped, but I'll never know! Another point was that I wouldn't have considered myself clean completely if I'd opted to use it. I know you'll do what's best for you and your sobriety. I'm sending you hugs, prayers and best wishes. -Bonnie-
I'm outside most of the day, love me some sun :-)
I do have a plans to go to the doctor to see why I have burning in my legs and feet but if it's nothing major and they want to give a pill, I will kindly say no. I'm done with pills, just the thought of taking on makes my stomach turn
I do have a plans to go to the doctor to see why I have burning in my legs and feet but if it's nothing major and they want to give a pill, I will kindly say no. I'm done with pills, just the thought of taking on makes my stomach turn
Just to ease your mind cbd oil is legal in all 50 states, it's considered a dietary supplement, just like a vitamin. It's apparently still very misunderstood.
But glad your having it checked out, itll make you feel better. It's the cbd that has the neurological benefits. (Burning, twitching, rls) it calms the brain enough to prevent seizures
MM is still not legal in most states due to the thc content, thats more for pain issues...as I've said that's a different story, while I do believe that too will have great benefits in certain situations, yours may not be one.
vitamin D...
I only recently was made aware that low levels of vitamin D will cause all kinds of mind issues, depression, that lost feeling and if low enough confusion ( although other issues will do that too ) many drugs deplete the D. We don't get enough of that from our foods and unless your in the sun a lot we just don't get the D we need. It make sense. ..the sun makes us happy.
I think your on the right track, you have a very positive attitude, I find it amazing that you'll take that cbd one step further and have it checked out to make sure it won't set you back :)
But glad your having it checked out, itll make you feel better. It's the cbd that has the neurological benefits. (Burning, twitching, rls) it calms the brain enough to prevent seizures
MM is still not legal in most states due to the thc content, thats more for pain issues...as I've said that's a different story, while I do believe that too will have great benefits in certain situations, yours may not be one.
vitamin D...
I only recently was made aware that low levels of vitamin D will cause all kinds of mind issues, depression, that lost feeling and if low enough confusion ( although other issues will do that too ) many drugs deplete the D. We don't get enough of that from our foods and unless your in the sun a lot we just don't get the D we need. It make sense. ..the sun makes us happy.
I think your on the right track, you have a very positive attitude, I find it amazing that you'll take that cbd one step further and have it checked out to make sure it won't set you back :)
So far I have no desire for the pills, don't have the desire for the oil but it's only been 3 days since I picked it up. There has to be a better solution to pills and a better alternative than swapping from pills to another product that will become addictive ie; immodium. We are here because we have addictive mentality and have problems coping with pain and other elements. I guess I had problems coping with the burn but took the tramadol for the pain in my wrist, looking back now I guess that was my excuses to take. I pray this isn't another lie I tell myself just to take the oil. I don't believe that's the case but like I said, I will only use it to relieve the burning in my legs, that's where my anxiety come from.
I know I don't want the pills, I know I don't want to continue with this but until I am in a clear mind I feel this is a better alternative than pills. I still have a friend that's in the police department (drug task force) that's researching this same product, he went and took a bottle from the shelf from where I bought it. I want to cover every aspect of this, I want to be on the safe end
I know I don't want the pills, I know I don't want to continue with this but until I am in a clear mind I feel this is a better alternative than pills. I still have a friend that's in the police department (drug task force) that's researching this same product, he went and took a bottle from the shelf from where I bought it. I want to cover every aspect of this, I want to be on the safe end
I too agree swapping one mind altering drug for another is not the way to go the goal is clean.
I'm just speaking of my son's experience...he needed to go with the lesser of 2 evils and work his way up from there
idk...I guess that's where it comes down to each individual person, and just having the support.
You have many clean days behind you and I hope you find continued success !!!! :)
I'm just speaking of my son's experience...he needed to go with the lesser of 2 evils and work his way up from there
idk...I guess that's where it comes down to each individual person, and just having the support.
You have many clean days behind you and I hope you find continued success !!!! :)
I have to say the oil works with the burning and anxiety but not the headaches and lower back pain. I'm willing to settle for not having my legs and feet burn, something the pills wouldn't work for. Pills wouldn't eliminate the other problems but only mask them, today I haven't needed to try the drops so that's another plus in my book.
I still a agree with Ms. Vickie, swapping from one mind altering drug to another isn't the way to go but here's where I'm willing to make that sacrifice to test it. I've prayed about this and feel it's a choice one won't know until it's tested
I still a agree with Ms. Vickie, swapping from one mind altering drug to another isn't the way to go but here's where I'm willing to make that sacrifice to test it. I've prayed about this and feel it's a choice one won't know until it's tested
Dedicated your post made me smile !!!
I came here in 2010 with a heroin addicted son, I have the utmost respect for everyone here, as they guided me with compassion, understanding and support. It isn't about who is right or wrong. It's about how to support each individual person, with their individual situation with the same ending goal.
I know the controversy over subs, several pmd me back then and told me not to speak about subs here, as it wasn't well received but also told me if they were in my shoes they absolutely would give it a try.
That was the route we took, along with individual counseling...today my son is 3 years clean.
I couldn't have done it without the support I did receive here but also backed away from this forum, when it came to him starting subs as I knew it wasn't the "correct" way.
What works for one doesn't always work for the next.
I 100% agree with Sara, PB needs to see a doctor for root cause of the Burning feet, but if it comes down to nothing more than pain management and pills, if there are alternative non addictive ways, isnt that the better choice. Cbd oil is very different than MM.
Plowboy ...I give an absolute Yay, and hope i dont get kicked out of here for saying that.
While my daughters situation is different than yours, cbd oil has saved her life. As posted above the diet used in children like mine. Can change their situation. Hmmm we did the keto diet...it helped but no comparison to what the oil has done. The oil is new, they have found a way to get it out to public...FDA holds it back, my question is why ? Not enough proof ? It took parents patients that had no other choose but death to start showing proof.
I had researched the use of oil one year prior to beginning it. I also belong to a group similar as this but all parents struggling to save their children's lives. We knew nothing when we started, but we didn't have a choice. Trial and error...supporting each other...becoming one big family we learned together.
Weve used this for near a year with great success, all neurological related, in the process we were able to wean our kids that are very delicate from all kinds of benzos, when prior there was no chance.
My daughter is NOT addicted nor dependent on the oil. She has come off of 3 drugs and down to 1/2 daily dose of her final drug. After a year I find we can use less oil, in fact I can now take oil away from her for weeks, only using it to break seizures for a few weeks if she flurries due to illness. These minds are fragile, if it helps children like her she was all but given up on, I believe cbd has endless possibilities. Just like everything else in life it doesn't work for everyone. If it's going work it seems to be immediate results fading off over a week than picking up and improving over a month.
what we seem to be seeing on the neurological end is stabilizing chemical imbalance. I've never been in an addicts shoes, but lived the life with many I love. My heroin addicted son 3 years ago went the mental health way after a slit wrist. He was diagnosed with a chemical imbalance, was self medicating just to feel normal. I thought I lost him, if he ever starts to sway...the first plan of action for him will be cbd oil.
This shouldn't be about who is right or wrong. ...because there is no right or wrong. It's what works for you, to be able to enjoy a healthily life being the dad you want to be.
I for one, if you continue with the oil am very interested in your progress and everything you have to say about it :)
I came here in 2010 with a heroin addicted son, I have the utmost respect for everyone here, as they guided me with compassion, understanding and support. It isn't about who is right or wrong. It's about how to support each individual person, with their individual situation with the same ending goal.
I know the controversy over subs, several pmd me back then and told me not to speak about subs here, as it wasn't well received but also told me if they were in my shoes they absolutely would give it a try.
That was the route we took, along with individual counseling...today my son is 3 years clean.
I couldn't have done it without the support I did receive here but also backed away from this forum, when it came to him starting subs as I knew it wasn't the "correct" way.
What works for one doesn't always work for the next.
I 100% agree with Sara, PB needs to see a doctor for root cause of the Burning feet, but if it comes down to nothing more than pain management and pills, if there are alternative non addictive ways, isnt that the better choice. Cbd oil is very different than MM.
Plowboy ...I give an absolute Yay, and hope i dont get kicked out of here for saying that.
While my daughters situation is different than yours, cbd oil has saved her life. As posted above the diet used in children like mine. Can change their situation. Hmmm we did the keto diet...it helped but no comparison to what the oil has done. The oil is new, they have found a way to get it out to public...FDA holds it back, my question is why ? Not enough proof ? It took parents patients that had no other choose but death to start showing proof.
I had researched the use of oil one year prior to beginning it. I also belong to a group similar as this but all parents struggling to save their children's lives. We knew nothing when we started, but we didn't have a choice. Trial and error...supporting each other...becoming one big family we learned together.
Weve used this for near a year with great success, all neurological related, in the process we were able to wean our kids that are very delicate from all kinds of benzos, when prior there was no chance.
My daughter is NOT addicted nor dependent on the oil. She has come off of 3 drugs and down to 1/2 daily dose of her final drug. After a year I find we can use less oil, in fact I can now take oil away from her for weeks, only using it to break seizures for a few weeks if she flurries due to illness. These minds are fragile, if it helps children like her she was all but given up on, I believe cbd has endless possibilities. Just like everything else in life it doesn't work for everyone. If it's going work it seems to be immediate results fading off over a week than picking up and improving over a month.
what we seem to be seeing on the neurological end is stabilizing chemical imbalance. I've never been in an addicts shoes, but lived the life with many I love. My heroin addicted son 3 years ago went the mental health way after a slit wrist. He was diagnosed with a chemical imbalance, was self medicating just to feel normal. I thought I lost him, if he ever starts to sway...the first plan of action for him will be cbd oil.
This shouldn't be about who is right or wrong. ...because there is no right or wrong. It's what works for you, to be able to enjoy a healthily life being the dad you want to be.
I for one, if you continue with the oil am very interested in your progress and everything you have to say about it :)
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I am glad you are checking this stuff out but i still stand by what i said before...Make sure you dont have any medical issues going on. I dont want to see you "self medicate" yourself if you do have something that needs to be treated by an MD.
I'm wanting to avoid any type of addictive supplements all together, if I was looking for the high I'm sure I could go score some weed.
As far as I'm concerned, not very many people has used this oil enough to say yay or nay and I'm nearly willing to try this to see where it stands. Today has been great and I haven't needed to use the product and I still haven't felt any side effects from it. The weather is humid and I have a dull pain in my lower back and a headache but I'm not going to try it. If my legs get to burning I might but want to wait as long as possible.
I think I will have a doctor check up on the burning but won't have them write anything out because I'm leary on any types of pills
As far as I'm concerned, not very many people has used this oil enough to say yay or nay and I'm nearly willing to try this to see where it stands. Today has been great and I haven't needed to use the product and I still haven't felt any side effects from it. The weather is humid and I have a dull pain in my lower back and a headache but I'm not going to try it. If my legs get to burning I might but want to wait as long as possible.
I think I will have a doctor check up on the burning but won't have them write anything out because I'm leary on any types of pills
It's very true that after detox underlying psychological & physical issues come to light. Part of recovery -- part of putting together a decent plan for a decent future is addressing this stuff.
I have sympathy with both 'camps' on this thread but I believe that life is a little more 'gray' then black & white & so can only speak & act from that perspective.
I think it's important to make the distinction here between self-medicating & self-treating. I understand it's early in Plowboy's detox & I fully appreciate the length of time, the heartache, changes & sheer hard work it takes to make the requisite mental/spiritual & physical changes in order to beat an addiction.(@ 2 yrs. 9 mos., I consider myself early in the process). The most obvious & difficult obstacle for most of us is to get out of the knee-jerk mindset of reaching for something in order to cope or maybe just to avoid coping.
The thing is, researching something thoroughly via medical literature, through local expertise & forums (anecdotal) & a willingness to discuss it without being defensive or disappearing, tend to make me think that Plowboy's quest is not being spurred by a desire to dodge psychological stress (ie. coming out of an addictive impulse), but rather by a legitimate medical quest. We still have the right (in fact if you want to survive intact our there these days, it's a d*mn good idea) to take responsibility for our own health & well being into hands. It's important to really do the research, to reach out to wherever you can in order to learn & to learn to listen to your body once you're a little clearer & your body/mind is healing.
Without a doubt CBD has some excellent applications! First, I would (as Sara suggested) find out definitively what is going on w/ you. Get a diagnosis. It sure sounds like peripheral neuropathy & if it is, it's important to find out the source like diabetes, celiac disease or ataxia. Then, you can research the causes of your condition & possible treatments & put together a plan. Not really knowing what you're dealing with is not the optimal way to go here. I mean, okay, say the CBD helps & it alleviates the symptoms of the underlying condition (for example diabetic neuropathy), sure, it's a relief but the problem is that the disease continues to progress unchecked. Of course, there's no guarantee that even w/ a full understanding of what's going on that you can cure or check your condition but strong odds are that you'll be able to make some lifestyle & nutritional changes that will improve your quality of life.
A huge part of my recent recovery work has had to do with treating myself better -- really adapting to the idea of being 'clean' -- that it's an across the board thing: physical, mental, spiritual & that maybe I'm worth it. It sounds obvious but for some reason it wasn't able to integrate these ideas in a practical way into my life while I was struggling so hard to maintain the first couple of years. It's happened gradually, as my understanding deepened & the missing puzzle pieces resolved -- still working on it :P) It's kind of a Catch-22, without enough neural & physical healing, you can't get to a place where you feel 'clear' enough & optimistic enough (depression/insomnia/restlessness can really linger after detox) to do the full work to make further healthy changes in your life but somehow with grace & perseverance we get there. Treat yourselves well people & love your bodies!
@ Dedicatedtostop: I agree with much of your post (especially about kindness on forum!! -- although I only saw one comment that I thought was a bit 'clumsy' that way on this thread). I wanted to ask you about your comparison between Dolophine & Loperamide. Granted, they're both opiates but as far as I know, that's where the similarity ends. One crosses the BBB, the other doesn't. One is very strong, the other very weak. Loperamide has the ability to potentiate Methadone further. Please, let me know if you have anything further on this :) (very curious!)
I have sympathy with both 'camps' on this thread but I believe that life is a little more 'gray' then black & white & so can only speak & act from that perspective.
I think it's important to make the distinction here between self-medicating & self-treating. I understand it's early in Plowboy's detox & I fully appreciate the length of time, the heartache, changes & sheer hard work it takes to make the requisite mental/spiritual & physical changes in order to beat an addiction.(@ 2 yrs. 9 mos., I consider myself early in the process). The most obvious & difficult obstacle for most of us is to get out of the knee-jerk mindset of reaching for something in order to cope or maybe just to avoid coping.
The thing is, researching something thoroughly via medical literature, through local expertise & forums (anecdotal) & a willingness to discuss it without being defensive or disappearing, tend to make me think that Plowboy's quest is not being spurred by a desire to dodge psychological stress (ie. coming out of an addictive impulse), but rather by a legitimate medical quest. We still have the right (in fact if you want to survive intact our there these days, it's a d*mn good idea) to take responsibility for our own health & well being into hands. It's important to really do the research, to reach out to wherever you can in order to learn & to learn to listen to your body once you're a little clearer & your body/mind is healing.
Without a doubt CBD has some excellent applications! First, I would (as Sara suggested) find out definitively what is going on w/ you. Get a diagnosis. It sure sounds like peripheral neuropathy & if it is, it's important to find out the source like diabetes, celiac disease or ataxia. Then, you can research the causes of your condition & possible treatments & put together a plan. Not really knowing what you're dealing with is not the optimal way to go here. I mean, okay, say the CBD helps & it alleviates the symptoms of the underlying condition (for example diabetic neuropathy), sure, it's a relief but the problem is that the disease continues to progress unchecked. Of course, there's no guarantee that even w/ a full understanding of what's going on that you can cure or check your condition but strong odds are that you'll be able to make some lifestyle & nutritional changes that will improve your quality of life.
A huge part of my recent recovery work has had to do with treating myself better -- really adapting to the idea of being 'clean' -- that it's an across the board thing: physical, mental, spiritual & that maybe I'm worth it. It sounds obvious but for some reason it wasn't able to integrate these ideas in a practical way into my life while I was struggling so hard to maintain the first couple of years. It's happened gradually, as my understanding deepened & the missing puzzle pieces resolved -- still working on it :P) It's kind of a Catch-22, without enough neural & physical healing, you can't get to a place where you feel 'clear' enough & optimistic enough (depression/insomnia/restlessness can really linger after detox) to do the full work to make further healthy changes in your life but somehow with grace & perseverance we get there. Treat yourselves well people & love your bodies!
@ Dedicatedtostop: I agree with much of your post (especially about kindness on forum!! -- although I only saw one comment that I thought was a bit 'clumsy' that way on this thread). I wanted to ask you about your comparison between Dolophine & Loperamide. Granted, they're both opiates but as far as I know, that's where the similarity ends. One crosses the BBB, the other doesn't. One is very strong, the other very weak. Loperamide has the ability to potentiate Methadone further. Please, let me know if you have anything further on this :) (very curious!)
Very, Very Well Said, Dedicated.
Plow Boy, you are strong and I know from reading your post your on your way to victory!!!!
God Bless you
Chig
Plow Boy, you are strong and I know from reading your post your on your way to victory!!!!
God Bless you
Chig
I have a problem with immodium' mother was on this bad after they removed most of her intestinal track. It was a bad 3 years, she had to drink it constantly to help with her movements. It ended up being part of the cause of her death
Okay,
I read the first few comments and that was all I needed before skipping through the rest to comment!
The first thing I want to say is this:
Nasty, rude and unsympathetic people are what led me astray from posting here!! I am still here and still reading! What happened to the forum and group of people that cared deeply about an individual period!??? The uplifting support and amount of Love shown for an individual stranger?? I am appalled by some of these comments! We recommend Imodium so much to people in the early stages!! Does anyone know that when Immodium was first released it had the same components as Methadone?! It was later reformulated and descaled, however still has some of the same chemical components of Methadone!! I remember, a certain member becoming addicted to it just here recently and went through some very nasty withdraws, yet the forum still recommends it!!?? This post really hit me personally the wrong way because comments such as above are what have led so many astray from the forum.
PB is reaching out and after 30 Days he still remains an active member to the forum. I don't think by any means he is trying to say he is replacing one drug for another. More in the sense of something that is all NATURAL to help him when needed! IMO.. And let it be known that I am speaking directly to PB, you are still clean!! Tram and CBD oil are on the opposite scale here! Hell for that matter, Marijuana is a NATURAL plant that helps people with a variety of Health issues! If it weren't, then it would not be legalized in certain parts of the country. How about everyone go " google " what all the ingredients are in Tylenol and Aspirin then come back and let's all argue some more about those side effects!
This man has worked his *** off to get to where he is and I do NOT believe in any way, shape or form he is seeking to get hooked on a natural medicine that helps him feel better esp on an as needed basis! And yes! I meant to type medicine!! Why don't you all google some more about how other countries use it as a medicine!!! In certain parts of Africa, that's all they have! And yet many countries sit back and make a mockery of the United States on our health care system, and many other issues as well. Marijuana, CBD oil, will NOT kill you!! But pills WILL!!! Perhaps if Dr's were writing scripts for them to patients with pain, anxiety, blood pressure, seizures, migraines etc.... And not pain pills, then just perhaps prescription drug overdose wouldn't be ranked as one of the #1 killers in the United States!!! As a nurse, in pain management at that, I have seen Dr's hand out scripts for 240 Percocet a MONTH like it's nothing!! Really!? And people want to criticize this man for using something natural!? People wouldn't be so quick to become addicted to prescription pain pills if they were able to get relief from a natural plant w medicinal healing
In closing,
PB, if you feel that you benefit from this then so be it!
To others, I am speaking from my heart. I feel that certain comments or an approach can often come off very hurtful and insensitive, even if it wasn't intended to, to people seeking help, advise and support. PB is still here after 30 days and still seeking out " support " while too often we see many come here and get to 2 weeks then they are gone!! If he wasn't serious about this, then he too would have jetted by now! Myself and others have stopped even posting here due to offensive and insensitive comments! Let's be a bit more supportive and a lot less offensive to people seeking SUPPORT in whatever their issue may be! That's the way I remember MH back when I joined in 2010.
I also want to add that I will not be joining in on the " back and fourth " arguments on this thread. I have given PB my thoughts and have added my 2 cents and I need not say any more.
PB... I have supported you since day 1 and will continue to do so in absolutely whatever you do!
I read the first few comments and that was all I needed before skipping through the rest to comment!
The first thing I want to say is this:
Nasty, rude and unsympathetic people are what led me astray from posting here!! I am still here and still reading! What happened to the forum and group of people that cared deeply about an individual period!??? The uplifting support and amount of Love shown for an individual stranger?? I am appalled by some of these comments! We recommend Imodium so much to people in the early stages!! Does anyone know that when Immodium was first released it had the same components as Methadone?! It was later reformulated and descaled, however still has some of the same chemical components of Methadone!! I remember, a certain member becoming addicted to it just here recently and went through some very nasty withdraws, yet the forum still recommends it!!?? This post really hit me personally the wrong way because comments such as above are what have led so many astray from the forum.
PB is reaching out and after 30 Days he still remains an active member to the forum. I don't think by any means he is trying to say he is replacing one drug for another. More in the sense of something that is all NATURAL to help him when needed! IMO.. And let it be known that I am speaking directly to PB, you are still clean!! Tram and CBD oil are on the opposite scale here! Hell for that matter, Marijuana is a NATURAL plant that helps people with a variety of Health issues! If it weren't, then it would not be legalized in certain parts of the country. How about everyone go " google " what all the ingredients are in Tylenol and Aspirin then come back and let's all argue some more about those side effects!
This man has worked his *** off to get to where he is and I do NOT believe in any way, shape or form he is seeking to get hooked on a natural medicine that helps him feel better esp on an as needed basis! And yes! I meant to type medicine!! Why don't you all google some more about how other countries use it as a medicine!!! In certain parts of Africa, that's all they have! And yet many countries sit back and make a mockery of the United States on our health care system, and many other issues as well. Marijuana, CBD oil, will NOT kill you!! But pills WILL!!! Perhaps if Dr's were writing scripts for them to patients with pain, anxiety, blood pressure, seizures, migraines etc.... And not pain pills, then just perhaps prescription drug overdose wouldn't be ranked as one of the #1 killers in the United States!!! As a nurse, in pain management at that, I have seen Dr's hand out scripts for 240 Percocet a MONTH like it's nothing!! Really!? And people want to criticize this man for using something natural!? People wouldn't be so quick to become addicted to prescription pain pills if they were able to get relief from a natural plant w medicinal healing
In closing,
PB, if you feel that you benefit from this then so be it!
To others, I am speaking from my heart. I feel that certain comments or an approach can often come off very hurtful and insensitive, even if it wasn't intended to, to people seeking help, advise and support. PB is still here after 30 days and still seeking out " support " while too often we see many come here and get to 2 weeks then they are gone!! If he wasn't serious about this, then he too would have jetted by now! Myself and others have stopped even posting here due to offensive and insensitive comments! Let's be a bit more supportive and a lot less offensive to people seeking SUPPORT in whatever their issue may be! That's the way I remember MH back when I joined in 2010.
I also want to add that I will not be joining in on the " back and fourth " arguments on this thread. I have given PB my thoughts and have added my 2 cents and I need not say any more.
PB... I have supported you since day 1 and will continue to do so in absolutely whatever you do!
Not sure why it double posted on me.
So far I've learned the oil is from a legit company, I'm still searching for the company that extracts the oil for them. It states in Georgia, I have my concerns about that location
So far I've learned the oil is from a legit company, I'm still searching for the company that extracts the oil for them. It states in Georgia, I have my concerns about that location
I bought this because it's natural, I can't say this is something that is safe just yet. I don't have plans on using it today.
I do believe it's better than taking pills, I pray it's safe.
I have a friend in the police department that works for the drug task force, he has a bottle of this same as I and he is testing it now. I will know exactly what I'm dealing with in the next few weeks. He don't believe it's harmful due to its compounds, I trust he will give me good facts about it.
I don't plan on using it as long as possible
I do believe it's better than taking pills, I pray it's safe.
I have a friend in the police department that works for the drug task force, he has a bottle of this same as I and he is testing it now. I will know exactly what I'm dealing with in the next few weeks. He don't believe it's harmful due to its compounds, I trust he will give me good facts about it.
I don't plan on using it as long as possible
My husband and I went on a surprise anniversary trip my mother in law planned for us and surprised us with. ....we ended up in Virginia at the beach and I found some of this cbd oil on the boardwalk.....it works great and has no other affects its just like taking advil or tylenol and does not show in a drug test. I am still recovering from being a heroin addict and didnt have enough methadone with me so thats why I tried this. I didnt even go back to my methadone when I got home I stopped seeing that dr and just go to therapist. It has worked for my headaches anxiety sex drive rls cramps tooth ache.
I have 2 kids a 12yr old and a 4yr old and I let my 12 yr old try it for her cramps and headache and it worked for her so it is a great all natural thing to use and you dont have to worry about becoming addicted
I have 2 kids a 12yr old and a 4yr old and I let my 12 yr old try it for her cramps and headache and it worked for her so it is a great all natural thing to use and you dont have to worry about becoming addicted
I bought this because it's natural, I can't say this is something that is safe just yet. I don't have plans on using it today.
I do believe it's better than taking pills, I pray it's safe.
I have a friend in the police department that works for the drug task force, he has a bottle of this same as I and he is testing it now. I will know exactly what I'm dealing with in the next few weeks. He don't believe it's harmful due to its compounds, I trust he will give me good facts about it.
I do believe it's better than taking pills, I pray it's safe.
I have a friend in the police department that works for the drug task force, he has a bottle of this same as I and he is testing it now. I will know exactly what I'm dealing with in the next few weeks. He don't believe it's harmful due to its compounds, I trust he will give me good facts about it.
I for one would love to find something to stop the burning in my feet!! I have nerve damage and it drives me crazy, besides hurt. I'm back on hydrocodone and I'd rather try something like CBD oil if it would work and not be as bad as the pills
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Self medicating got us here in the first place. Your playing with fire here.
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