MY DAY ONE!

[mouse1977]

I took my last 7.5 mg vic yesterday afternoon.  This is coming from taking 90+ mg's of roxy's a day, then trying to detox with methadone, which I hate.  I did what ppl said not to and took my last methadone (5mg) saturday.  I have been taking percs/ vics/ since sparingly. Whenever I felt pain.  I wanted to get the methadone out of my system because I watched my husband stop cold turkey and go through what I knew I caouldn't.  I didn't tell him what I was doing because it was very renegade to our PLAN.  :) So last night went to bed sick- took a hot bath and half bar xanax and went to sleep until abt 2:30- woke up with leg/arm/spine- that pain.  So I took another hot bath, walked my house, did jumping jacks- dogs were like what the f.  I went to my guest room and prayed to make it through the night.  And i did.  I fell asleep and woke up to daylight, which to me is a miracle.  Oh yeah, I also took some potassium pills in the middle of the night.  I mentally feel normal, but physically not so normal.  Pain in legs is ok- I can deal if it gets too bad take a bath.  I'm sneezing constantly.  And of course I have the willies/ cold sweats/ chills. BUT I had a little talk with myself. I told my body we can do this.  My husband is on his 5th day clean today.  After a miserable 3rd and fouth day- he looks a million tiomes better, was singing before qwork, and says he feels great today.  I am so proud of him.  But he was coming of methadone/ the devil. i am optimistic, but am prepared knowing that it's only day one.  I feel really hopeful.  I was so sick of having to take pills to make me "normal".  I will prob be posting alot- I find this theraputic.  Pleasde no one tell me to got to NA.  I leave to Europe on Thurs for a month, and I'm sure our honeymoon, which we swore we were going ot be offf of pills or will be super good for both of us.  :)  

[gnarly_1]

hi welcome to the forum....medhelp has a pain management forum that would probably be able to help you more just google it ..as for getting off methadone it is a slow possess you taper off it gradually from your post I gather you have been on it 5 yrs at 60mg the withdrawal wont be fun but it will be doable...I was on it for pain to and worked my way up to 150ml over 6 1/2 yrs it took me 8 1/2 mo to taper off..and around 90 days to recover
if you want to do this I can help walk you threw the process ....we no longer post taper schedules in the open forum but I can send you the one I used via the messenger
I got it from a neo/natal nurse...that brings babys off heroin ,methadone oxy ext and I figured if it was safe enough for a baby it would be safe enough for me...it worked well so if you want it just let me know and I will send it to you...also wanted to let you know im in less pain now off of the narcotics then when I was on them ....theres a lot of members that have found this to be true....keep posting for support let me know if you need help
I will work with you if you want to get off it...and it is so so worth it when its all said and done...good luck and God bless .......Gnarly    

[Melissad17]

Hello, I was just curious, I have been taking methadone 10 mg for about 5 years and also 30 mg oxycodone, I am in severe pain and am wondering how hard it is to ween yourself off and if I switch to a patch, like fentynal will I have to continue to take methadone? I have heard this medicine gets into your bones? Anyone else heard of that? Also anyone know of a better pain regimen so that I can get relief, I have been taking this medicine for so long I think I am immune to it. Also does anyone know the maximum amount you can take without hurting yourself? I take six a day and six of oxycodine and I am still in pain when I am vigorous, like cleaning around the house.

[gnarly_1]

Hi Mouse first off congrats on deciding to get clean....you have came to a great place for help ...you will get plenty of support here...well your probably not feeling great right now
but embrace the pain...it is the begging to the end of being chained to a pill bottle
try and keep a positive attitude thew this it is 1/3 physical and 2/3 mental be ready to fight on both fronts...I say this to everyone starting out ...get comfortable with the saying
"you just got to be ok without being ok for a wile" its going to apply for the next few days
YOU CAN DO THIS keep telling yourself that...I see your off to a good start with the hot baths dont under estimate this therapy I would take several a day when I detoxed...try your best to not get discouraged this is only a temporary condition
and you will get past it...as far as the supplements go the amino acid protacall has several that will help your brain heal...if your looking for a good all in one and on a budget you can run up to walmart and pick up whey protein shake mix they cary 2 kinds get the 15 buck one it taist better and mixes ezer...its loaded with vitamins amino acids and protein all of witch the brain needs to heal...I still drink 2 a day
right now get prepared for your night ...most people dont sleep wile doing this so its good to rent a few movies to keep your mind off how lousy you feel...at night I would lay on the couch with my eyes closed and some soft music playing in the back ground ..try and get lost in the vmusic...it may be the closest thing to sleep that you get..
keep posting for support and read all the post its very therapeutic I will check up on you from time to time good luck and God bless......Gnarly      

[laurel453]

oooohhhhhhhhh NO WAY, i'm afraid you gonna lose again, my friend :)

next match.. SPAIN- PORTUGAL

[mouse1977]

well I broke even b/c I bet on Ivory Coast.  Plus I'll win big in the long run with my $$ on Portugal!!!!!!!!!  LOL

[laurel453]

right, you can get the essential aminos from a protein shake but i really think i needed an extra help..

hey, mouse, sorry you lost your money :) :) :)

[Florida_Guy737]

Hi,

Easiest way to get all your aminos, protein and calories to keep your weight up is a weight gain or protein powder.  You can mix with water or milk and the flavors are pretty good; I use the vanilla milkshake made by CyberPower.

Good Stuff...

Guy

[laurel453]

HENRY, HELLOOOO... how great you are here and thanks a lot for your wishes, congrats to you too for the Us clasification.

ghana-germany in germany ?... wow, lots of beer there, ehh LOL  that was a happy match, both of them qualified, everybody happy :)

[laurel453]

¿?¿=?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿ betting against Spain ?? nahhh, i gonna wish then with all my heart that your husband win your money, sooorrrrryyyy :) LOL

portugal/brazil... yeah, a draw , they didn't put much effort, did they ? they were classified so, you know... And now, we, spain, need being the first of our group so that we meet portugal on the next match ( much better than brasil :) The US team has played very good, they have improved a looot, congrats for your classification, btw :)

about the aminos.... read the amino acid protocol ( health pages ) and you'll find some info there. I'm talking about Ltyrosine , 5htp, melatonin and valerian root because these were the aminos i took ( valerian root is not an amino but it helped me a lot with anxiety and sleep and even stomach cramps )....From what i remember i think the doses in the amino protocol were quite high, i played conservative here and took the minimal doses. After acute withdrawal is past  ( 1st week ) what you are going to feel mostly is anxiety/depression/lack of energy/ lack of sleep and being travelling i would think you gonna need some help :)

you can buy them at walgreens ( ¿? is the name right ? ) and similar stores...

[HenryS354]

You are doing awesome!!!

I am in Europe now for work for another 18 days, and it definitely takes your mind off things (Even for me almost 40 days later!)

Enjoy Croatia- My entire family line is from there, and I was lucky enough to score a trip on my schedule to Zagreb not long ago. I truly didnt want to leave.....ever. :-)

Keep rooting for Spain, Laurel will LOVE you for that one! :-)

I had the privilege of being down in the hotel bar the other night for the Ghana vs Germany game.  Im in Leipzig, Germany now so you can imagine what a crazy scene that was!

Keep up the great work!

Henry

[mouse1977]

Hi! Thx for the info!  Aminos- where do I get those?  Whole foods?  Is there a certain type?  Drops or pills?  The Thomas detox says take the L-Tyro after 4th day?  Should I take now?  I am downing potassium like crazy.

I am rooting for Spain, but I bet some $$ with husband against them so I have to cheer for Chile!!!  LOL  What abt the brazil/ portugal game....  

And super excited for US to play tomorrow.

THANK YOU FOR POSTING. YOU ARE HELPING ME MORE THAN YOU KNOW

[mouse1977]

Noodle- I just like calling someone that  LOL.  You are almost identical to what I was trying to do- taper the vics.  Ya.  That didn't work.  5 a day.  So maybe our w/d will be similar?  who knows.  FOr me it is physical 80%.  The worst is the pain in my legs, which I SWEAR the hot baths are like a miracle.  I woke up last night- (I took last vic at like 5pm) at 2:30, tossing, turning- so uncomfortable.  I was like f this- I'm not going to sleep, so I got in a hot bath for like 15 min.  Took potassium, which has been a BLESSING, and little bit xanax, slept til morning...  Good Luck.  Keep posting I want to know how it goes for you.  We should be CLEAN by next week!!!!!!!!

[noodle2010]

Thank you and I agree.. we can definitely be of help and encouragement to each other! I started on percs 5 years ago.. took up to 12 a day.. then got cut off from PM. Most recently just been on vic 7.5 as well. Trying to be good the last week and taper. That's not going so well.. been on like 4-5 a day. So.. I'm going to run out completely today and it's *ct* for me tomorrow! I know I can do this! And so can you! I'm not sure I have a real plan but I've read a lot on this forum for advice to help with symptoms of w/d. I'm hoping it won't be too bad :/ It's more mental than physical you know? I take one every morning to get my day started and I do have chronic pain. It's just taking that habit out of the equation is going to be rough. I don't want to cave this time. I want to be free from this demon! I thought about trying the thomas recipe!? It seems to have helped others. I was going to go to a clinic with suboxone detox but I've heard about people getting addicted to that. Sounds like just trading one pill for another. I just want my life back.. for me.. for my son.. for my family and friends. There is so much out there waiting for me! I have been living in this shell for far too long! Best wishes to you and I hope you have a peaceful day.. keep us posted on how you are doing <3

[laurel453]

some friends of mine went to croatia last year and they loved it.....

it seems you are taking the right steps to go through the wds, mouse :) and besides, as i see that you like soccer, good :) don't miss spain-chile match today in about 2 hours ( GO spain :) )

i was thinking that on thursday you'll be  only a week clean and i would advice you because of this  to try the aminos along with the potassium and the whey shakes you are taking....and maybe valerian root ( anxiety ), melatonin ( lack of sleep ), 5htp ( depression and only if you are not taking antidepressants), Ltyrosine ( lack of energy  and only the low dose 500mg in the mornings )..... hummm, just in case

[mouse1977]

Hi, Good Luck.  Let's keep posting so we can see what each other is going through.  What are you detoxing from and what is your plan? :)

[mouse1977]

This forum and others have such great info.  Thanks for the encourangment and advice.  Now it is day 1.5 for me.  I have taken three hot baths so far, tried to go to the beach to walk a little but that was pretty rough- ended up speeding home to use restroom... Took bath/ xanax/ potassium and slept.  I found that smartwater has electrlytes in it, and those smoothie/ fruit drinks you can buy, well the protien on with a whey supplement is loaded w/ vitamins.  It hurts whatever I eat, but I force myself.  I can't take multi-vitimins, or at least found a brand that doesn't upset my stomach (even when sober) but suggestions are welcome.  Someone on here said to rent really good movies to pass the time.  I'm watching cast away, and thank God the world cup is on.  My chills are bad, and pain is constant, but bearable.  I know my bathtub is there if needed.  If it weren't 94+ degrees outside I would walk the dogs, but way too hot.  (live in South FL).  Gym seems too intimidating at this point.  Maybe later, I went yesterday anyway. So thanks again.  Please post anything that you have found to help- i am loosely doing the Thomas detox recipe and drinking huge amounts of water.

Oh- we are going to Croatia!  Beautiful country, beaches like no other.  People are great.  Family will be there too so lots of activites and other stuff to keep busy.  

[noodle2010]

Good luck! You are on the right path! I start home detox tomorrow so if you need some support I'm here too! I will probably be posting like crazy myself. This is the first forum I have found where the members actually care and support you!!!! It's great!
You have your honeymoon as a goal so that is awesome. At the end of this detox you can both break away from home and relax and have some fun! How exciting :) Rewards are a great thing.. I may have to think of one for myself :)

[laurel453]

yeah, congrats to both and enjoy your honeymoon ... where about in europe ?

don't forget to take your vitamins, suplemments, aminos.... travelling is quite tiring and you will need them...eat well and sleep better :)

[Dav125]

The Europe trip should be a big help. It will distract you from the everyday routine that was here along with the memories that routine created. ie: the pill battle..

Have great fun! It should do wonders in helping break the mental addiction with all the neat stuff you will see and do (Umm, just gave myself an idea,,funny how that works)..

[Florida_Guy737]

I'm totally impressed by both of you! Meth is a serious drug to come down from and withdrawals from any med is painful.  You can do this...we have as well and can help you along the way.

Awesome recovery so far!

Good Luck,

Guy