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Opiate withdrawal
Hey,
I am a working mom (I guess my nickname gives the working part away) and have been on Lort 10 for about 2 years. In the last year I have gotten up to 15-20 per day. I recently quit cold turkey (despite having to work and be a wife and mom)and am on day 6. The withdrawal has gotten better, but I think that I fear the night time the most. I just can't seem to sleep.....almost at all. Any idea how long this will last?
I know that I am strong in that I have made it throught the worst part of this whole thing....having to function normally through most of this, but I cannot keep going with such little sleep. I feel so groggy in the morning I almost can't get going.
I really can't go to anyone...even a doctor...because of my and my family's position over here. Can anyone please give me some advice or even some words of encouragement?
Thanks to all of you for allowing me to read your stories. It has really helped me throughout all of this during those restless nights. You are all so strong in what you have done!
I am a working mom (I guess my nickname gives the working part away) and have been on Lort 10 for about 2 years. In the last year I have gotten up to 15-20 per day. I recently quit cold turkey (despite having to work and be a wife and mom)and am on day 6. The withdrawal has gotten better, but I think that I fear the night time the most. I just can't seem to sleep.....almost at all. Any idea how long this will last?
I know that I am strong in that I have made it throught the worst part of this whole thing....having to function normally through most of this, but I cannot keep going with such little sleep. I feel so groggy in the morning I almost can't get going.
I really can't go to anyone...even a doctor...because of my and my family's position over here. Can anyone please give me some advice or even some words of encouragement?
Thanks to all of you for allowing me to read your stories. It has really helped me throughout all of this during those restless nights. You are all so strong in what you have done!
You posted on an older thread and that is why it was overlooked. You should start a thread of your own and you will get responses. At the top of the page click on "ask a question" and copy and paste your posts above. Doing this will also dedicate a post just for you.
Congrats on your clean time! Great job on tapering as most don't have the willpower. Many say tapering is tougher if not impossible. I've done both and agree that tapering does make it much more bearable. There was a time where I couldn't taper as I just kept wanting that last little buzz. Not much fun but made it.
Just keep going strong and never look back.
Best of luck to you.
Brian
Congrats on your clean time! Great job on tapering as most don't have the willpower. Many say tapering is tougher if not impossible. I've done both and agree that tapering does make it much more bearable. There was a time where I couldn't taper as I just kept wanting that last little buzz. Not much fun but made it.
Just keep going strong and never look back.
Best of luck to you.
Brian
Hi Gerard again.. (does anyone read this?). Just want to say.. that I'm still going strong.. off all opiates still.. I am trying now to get off the benzos.. and switching over to non-benzo 'Sonata' for the sleep.. it's been several weeks now off opiates but I gotta tell you there are residual withdrawals still.. ie., I'm still sneezing and blowing my nose.. I still get the stomach cramps especially at night.. the klonopin took that right away but I'm sure the Klonopin was doing other things not good too at the same time.. after all klonopin is addictive too. anyway the Sonata works @ 10mg/night- keeps me sleeping which is important to do this.. if not sleeping it's seems impossible to me. no sleep almost demands drugs to get through the next day. Anyway I'm hoping everyone is doing well and for those who aren't I'm praying for you.. I'm sure we are all praying for eachother here. God's Blessings, Mercy and Love to all with this trial.
You can all do it! I hate to quote a corporate cliche' but "just do it".
You can all do it! I hate to quote a corporate cliche' but "just do it".
Hi everyone.. my name is Gerard, I'm on day 8- I tapered from 180oxycontin plus 180 oxycodone combined for about 3 years and then another 3 just on the oxycodone from a previous taper off the oxycontin's.. still I've been on these thing for a long time.. doctors said I was disabled I know I had a bad back.. I took the medicines.. I'm responsible.. nonetheless we all know you really can't have a 'life' on opiates.. some will say different but I'm talking about a 'natural life' such as the one I'm sure everyone here is aiming for. My guess is that we all remember that life and in comparison we all want it back. Congrats to everyone doing this and those who've done this. This is a Miracle to do b/c so many things want to make you resist but when the decision is made.. the fight is on, it will be done people.. and I am off! I took an opiate test and got a 'negative' can u imagine how that felt after 8 years (early years were percs b4 the oxy's) of having this monkey on my back? have to wake every night to take a pill to sleep another 3 hours? have to keep popping pills all day, everyday, can't take a normal bowel movement.. it's a Hell and a Prison- not worth 1 day, much less 8 years. God forgive me.
Just wanted to add that I too have had a similar experience to one of the posters here.. I was off 6 days then had 2 amazing days.. then suddenly I had the leggies and arm electricity thing and I was saying to myself what the heck I thought I was over this? No, not so. I've come to see this in this manner maybe this will make some sense to others it does to me.
First of all let me say that I tapered all the way down to 5mg's I don't know how anyone can do c/t honestly I just can't fathom the notion.. maybe some people who are not on opiates for too long a time can do it but I tried and oh ****.. I knew in a short time that I had to taper. But Kudos to you if you did c/t no matter what you are a friggin TROOPER!!! I couldn't get past the 5mg's at night to sleep so I googled around and found that benzo's are good to get off the final bit of opiate.. so I asked my doc for Klonopin b/c it is apparently lighter drug than xanax and/or other benzos. I was not looking to swap drugs just to use a bad drug to get off a terrible drug. If that makes sense. The benzo got me clean off the opiates in 1 night.. took the benzos only at night.05mg, mostly 3/4 of that pill only. btw not condoning the use of a benzo.. I saw my doctor first so pls do that too.
My theory. When I was tapering down my opiates I noticed something that is somewhat akin to a natural phenomenon.. if you go down to your local beach or just think of a beach picture the waves coming in.. a wave, a pause, another wave.. I have parallelled this natural occurence to the undoing of a chemical addiction in the body/brain. I even noticed that while tapering my pain and discomfort came in waves.. Now I'm noticing that being completely off the opiates I was good for 2 days no withdrawals.. as if now another section of my brain is beginning it's cycle of waves? Also the sneezing is a dead giveaway for me that the brain is flushing something out? Chemical addiction stuff.. YEAH BABY!! GET OUT!!
The body is a miraculous machine, remember that everyone and I'll end by saying this.. I BELIEVE IN TWO THINGS AFTER MY EXPERIENCE WITH AN OPIATE.. 1 IS THAT I BELIEVE IN AN 'ADDICTION' BUT NOW I ALSO KNOW THAT I BELIEVE IN A 'SUBBICTION' YES I JUST MADE THAT WORD UP.. IT'S ADDING AND SUBTRACTING.. THE PRINCIPLES OF REDUCTION WORK EVERYTIME PEOPLE.. IT IS NOT JUST POSSIBLE BUT IT IS GAURANTEED. BE CAREFUL, DO IT SLOWLY BUT DO IT.. REDUCE, REDUCE.. THEN IT DIES.
GERARD
Just wanted to add that I too have had a similar experience to one of the posters here.. I was off 6 days then had 2 amazing days.. then suddenly I had the leggies and arm electricity thing and I was saying to myself what the heck I thought I was over this? No, not so. I've come to see this in this manner maybe this will make some sense to others it does to me.
First of all let me say that I tapered all the way down to 5mg's I don't know how anyone can do c/t honestly I just can't fathom the notion.. maybe some people who are not on opiates for too long a time can do it but I tried and oh ****.. I knew in a short time that I had to taper. But Kudos to you if you did c/t no matter what you are a friggin TROOPER!!! I couldn't get past the 5mg's at night to sleep so I googled around and found that benzo's are good to get off the final bit of opiate.. so I asked my doc for Klonopin b/c it is apparently lighter drug than xanax and/or other benzos. I was not looking to swap drugs just to use a bad drug to get off a terrible drug. If that makes sense. The benzo got me clean off the opiates in 1 night.. took the benzos only at night.05mg, mostly 3/4 of that pill only. btw not condoning the use of a benzo.. I saw my doctor first so pls do that too.
My theory. When I was tapering down my opiates I noticed something that is somewhat akin to a natural phenomenon.. if you go down to your local beach or just think of a beach picture the waves coming in.. a wave, a pause, another wave.. I have parallelled this natural occurence to the undoing of a chemical addiction in the body/brain. I even noticed that while tapering my pain and discomfort came in waves.. Now I'm noticing that being completely off the opiates I was good for 2 days no withdrawals.. as if now another section of my brain is beginning it's cycle of waves? Also the sneezing is a dead giveaway for me that the brain is flushing something out? Chemical addiction stuff.. YEAH BABY!! GET OUT!!
The body is a miraculous machine, remember that everyone and I'll end by saying this.. I BELIEVE IN TWO THINGS AFTER MY EXPERIENCE WITH AN OPIATE.. 1 IS THAT I BELIEVE IN AN 'ADDICTION' BUT NOW I ALSO KNOW THAT I BELIEVE IN A 'SUBBICTION' YES I JUST MADE THAT WORD UP.. IT'S ADDING AND SUBTRACTING.. THE PRINCIPLES OF REDUCTION WORK EVERYTIME PEOPLE.. IT IS NOT JUST POSSIBLE BUT IT IS GAURANTEED. BE CAREFUL, DO IT SLOWLY BUT DO IT.. REDUCE, REDUCE.. THEN IT DIES.
GERARD
It's been ten years since I started opiate abuse. I only realized I was an addict like 1 year ago. I steal,rob,hurt and leave whoever gets in the way. I first started doing drugs with my mom. Weed,coke,pills etc. Never shot anything up..but that doesn't make me any better. In fact I'm worse...I watched my mother kill herself. And as soon as she died three years ago..my drug game stepped up notch. More soma,lt,OC,zanez,valuim, syrup the most could handle. This month I've take 300 loraz, 400 soma, 100 zanex, 2 ounces of weed, 100 or more perks, and some others. I quit cold turkey( this month an tapered myself off. Not to quit but to manage my abuse. And here's what I did.
1.20 loratab split in half, even if u took 12 the day before take a half a pill every 7 hours. U will be able to cut yourself from 2 halfs to one. Get your lover to help.
2. Gym w/ a sauna the sauna will cut the withdrawls in half. And excercise will help with your cravings.
3. Stop talkin to everyone you know. Me I'm in the music scene..and we all do drugs.
4. Weed. It helps with eating.
5. Liquid aloe & Malox for the u know what's.
6. Don't be a ***** if your serious about quiting you'll tell your docter, normally the won't make you withdrawl on your own.
7. Zanex it will kill your stress( they say quiting opiates gives you the feeling you just lost someone close to you.) That anxiety noone should ever have to deal with.
8. Real family, not your step dad, I'm talkin Mom close to your heart people.
9. Get active chances are you sit on the couch and been nodding for the last year. Its so beautiful out here. Outside is the way.
10. This is number one for me, but others sometimes don't see faith as a stepping stone. Believe and god will help you.
11. Group therepy ..people who share your addiction can help and I heard support systems are great.
12. Find yourself.
My 12 step.
I can help you.
***@****
While I'm not better...I will get there.
1.20 loratab split in half, even if u took 12 the day before take a half a pill every 7 hours. U will be able to cut yourself from 2 halfs to one. Get your lover to help.
2. Gym w/ a sauna the sauna will cut the withdrawls in half. And excercise will help with your cravings.
3. Stop talkin to everyone you know. Me I'm in the music scene..and we all do drugs.
4. Weed. It helps with eating.
5. Liquid aloe & Malox for the u know what's.
6. Don't be a ***** if your serious about quiting you'll tell your docter, normally the won't make you withdrawl on your own.
7. Zanex it will kill your stress( they say quiting opiates gives you the feeling you just lost someone close to you.) That anxiety noone should ever have to deal with.
8. Real family, not your step dad, I'm talkin Mom close to your heart people.
9. Get active chances are you sit on the couch and been nodding for the last year. Its so beautiful out here. Outside is the way.
10. This is number one for me, but others sometimes don't see faith as a stepping stone. Believe and god will help you.
11. Group therepy ..people who share your addiction can help and I heard support systems are great.
12. Find yourself.
My 12 step.
I can help you.
***@****
While I'm not better...I will get there.
You'll find plenty of support here! First off, I would type under your own post. You posted on a old thread. At the top of the page click on "post a question". Doing this will provide a post that is dedicated to you. It will also give you something to look back on if you ever get the urge to use again.
I am addicted to opiates. I take several percocet, vicodens, oxy's, just whatever I can get on a daily basis. I have been taking these for about 8 years. I spend my last dollar on these pills. It's like I would rather buy a pill than a new outfit, or food for that matter. Its getting to the point that I cannot afford this lifestyle anymore. I am going to try to quit cold turkey and I am scared to death. The longest I have went in the past without an opiate in my system is 3 days, and it was 3 days of absolute ****! I cannot hardly stand the muscle jumps in my legs, or the nausea, or the fever and chills- body aches and pains. I have been looking for information on the internet to make the withdraw process easier and havent really found any useful information. If anyone has any suggestions please email me at k_ohiogrl33***@****. I am starting this detox tomorrow and I am scared to death!
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