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Opiate withdrawal
Hey,
I am a working mom (I guess my nickname gives the working part away) and have been on Lort 10 for about 2 years. In the last year I have gotten up to 15-20 per day. I recently quit cold turkey (despite having to work and be a wife and mom)and am on day 6. The withdrawal has gotten better, but I think that I fear the night time the most. I just can't seem to sleep.....almost at all. Any idea how long this will last?
I know that I am strong in that I have made it throught the worst part of this whole thing....having to function normally through most of this, but I cannot keep going with such little sleep. I feel so groggy in the morning I almost can't get going.
I really can't go to anyone...even a doctor...because of my and my family's position over here. Can anyone please give me some advice or even some words of encouragement?
Thanks to all of you for allowing me to read your stories. It has really helped me throughout all of this during those restless nights. You are all so strong in what you have done!
I am a working mom (I guess my nickname gives the working part away) and have been on Lort 10 for about 2 years. In the last year I have gotten up to 15-20 per day. I recently quit cold turkey (despite having to work and be a wife and mom)and am on day 6. The withdrawal has gotten better, but I think that I fear the night time the most. I just can't seem to sleep.....almost at all. Any idea how long this will last?
I know that I am strong in that I have made it throught the worst part of this whole thing....having to function normally through most of this, but I cannot keep going with such little sleep. I feel so groggy in the morning I almost can't get going.
I really can't go to anyone...even a doctor...because of my and my family's position over here. Can anyone please give me some advice or even some words of encouragement?
Thanks to all of you for allowing me to read your stories. It has really helped me throughout all of this during those restless nights. You are all so strong in what you have done!
This is an old post that keeps coming up every so often. You will get answers to your own problems, and many more of them if you click on "New Post" at the top of the page and make your very own thread. And it sounds like you are doing things the right way!
Well I see everyone else is kinda just putting stuff up, so here I go, I love those dam opiates, they give me energy, I felt like a superwomen. However about four months ago, my retarded friends turned me on to needles, oxycotin and roxycotin. Well I have finally said to my self, what happen? I am 25 years old, back in 2000 I was a head cheerleader, homecoming queen, had it all wtf happen? Drugs thats what. Well I want my life back, I have a son who really needs his mom back, well I went to a detox clinic, found out I was knocked up, well they wouldn't let me stay!! Hehe screw them I said, came home that day called up a doctor, got seen that day. I would put what I did I don't want to offend any one. Well the clinic told me I couldn't go back till I was recovered from my minor surgery. Well that was a friday, they called me and told me to come back on monday night at 6 pm, 3pm they call me and tell me there is no beds. WTF again, well its been a week, I have not used since last friday (needles) took some vic's over the weekend, any one who uses needles knows vic's don't do much, well all I can say is that besides being sooooooo tired, I am finally starting to feel like my self. The first two days sucked, legs shake, goosebumps, wtf is up with the sneezing???? Now on day 7, when well I sleep again, I take tylenol PM I take sleep aids, I sleep for three hours and I am back up. Good luck to all of you, just remeber we were all happy once with out these, just try to remeber those times, I really am starting to feel allot better, I see myself again, well I am, starting too. You know what I did today and it seemed to help I put on music really loud and danced around my house, my neighbors must think I am crazy, however it just made me remeber what its like to be happy listening to music and feeling good. Good luck to all........................
Kudos for you! I see that you posted a long time ago, so I don't know if this is still a problem for you or what...however, to those who are just reading this post or would like the info....
Melatonin is a natural hormone that regulates sleep patterns. You can buy this supplement (I usually get Melatonin 3mg) at any grocery or nutrition store (i.e. Walmart, GNC). Sleepytime tea (a blend of chamomile and valerian root) also has helped me, I get it at our grocery store here in FL (Publix). Valerian Root is also available everywhere, and is a surefire way to knock me out. Sometimes these supplements can make you feel groggy in the morning, but it is better to sleep and feel jetlagged in the morning than to not sleep at all, or nearly at all, and still feel that way the next day. It is much better for your health. Your physical and mental health is severely hindered without sleep.
Melatonin is a natural hormone that regulates sleep patterns. You can buy this supplement (I usually get Melatonin 3mg) at any grocery or nutrition store (i.e. Walmart, GNC). Sleepytime tea (a blend of chamomile and valerian root) also has helped me, I get it at our grocery store here in FL (Publix). Valerian Root is also available everywhere, and is a surefire way to knock me out. Sometimes these supplements can make you feel groggy in the morning, but it is better to sleep and feel jetlagged in the morning than to not sleep at all, or nearly at all, and still feel that way the next day. It is much better for your health. Your physical and mental health is severely hindered without sleep.
For opiate withdrawal there are lots of options and they probably work to varying degrees.
One is treatment with Ibogaine. It's a drug made from the Iboga plant and though it's not available
for treatment in the US, there are clinics in Mexico, Europe and I believe Canada now also. There
have been a few limited trials in the US I think but know nothing of these. Basically it's a strong psychedelic
or hallucinogen. It's given in a hospital setting if it's a reputable place for treatment with the medication.
Watch out for 3rd world or even Europeans treatments involving putting you in a motel room, giving you the drug and
watching you. You need medical care to go through this, like I said in a clinic or hospital. It takes about 2 or 3 days if I remember right as they evaluate you first and then watch you afterwards for a brief period also. I think the experience itself lasts less than 24 hours and is good at bringing about change in thought patterns due to psychological insights gained through the experience. At least this seems to be true with some who undergo the treatment. They are unsure of the way this drug works other than it possibly helps you 'reset' your brain chemistry in a manner that supposedly makes physical withdrawal simply not cause any symptoms. Often people also report profound insight into what caused the addictive behavior to begin with and also many report a mental relief from any cravings that lasts up to six months in some allowing them to remain sober even after physical withdrawal isn't an issue and all apparent psychological effects have long worn off also.
Of course you should read more about it if you are considering it and much info is online.
A more conventional treatment for physical withdrawal symptom control involves using a medication
called Clonidine, a drug that does not cause dependence and is primarily used
for treating hypertension. That is available here from any doctor. I'd also suggest reading up on it if you are considering it. It is often used in conjunction with an antihistamines or other mild drugs. More info on this is in the link I provide below.
One other area of support for withdrawal include various nutrients and medications designed to return
the brain chemistry to normal after addiction.. Though I don' t know the veracity of the info on his site, one place I've found that seems to have lots of valuable free info is here http://www.dpeg.org/methadone_withdrawal.html
I'm sure there are plenty of similar sites worth viewing where you will get a much wider exposure to information than anyone could ever provide on a site such as this in a post.
From my research these are some of the best methods for stopping in a quick manner especially if used together in a proper manner with the exception of the Ibogaine treatment which is different than these other solutions I offer for consideration. I'd imagine that it would be sufficient without other medications used though I'm not sure what clinics might actually have as a protocol for its usage. I'd still suspect that even with that it would be important to continue nutritional support afterwards for maximum results, though I don't believe any use of medication is called for after leaving treatment at all. For a while this treatment was only available in a medical setting on a ship floating in international waters for the most part due to govt.s reluctance to approve any hallucinogen for any medical usage. Fortunately this is changing in many countries, just not the US at this point.
I should point out that I've only once accidentally even experienced any opiate withdrawal and that was simply from forgetting to take a methadone dose one day. I just felt like I feel on a bad day anyway, but I'm sure I wasn't into full blown withdrawal yet. I use methadone to control the symptoms of crohns disease which can include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, feeling weak and tired and also insomnia. I've been using it for 6 years and it was a miracle drug for me when I found it. I'd had an open fistula that wouldn't heal despite 2 surgeries and 15 years of time. A fistula is a hole that eats it's way through your body from where ever it starts to where ever it ends up.
Mine started in my lower colon and came to the surface about 1/2 an inch from my anus which was where they had to operate on it. Well due to having it bleed 6 to 8 times most days each time I had a bowel movement
and hurt like a fresh wound each time, with the pain subsiding some slowly but never going away truly I turned to
methadone on my own. I had been told 15 years earlier by a pharmacist that they used to treat crohns with liquid
opium. But no doctor would consider it because I'd be an addict. Well I am addicted, but I'm also pain free for the most part and the wound that hadn't healed in 15 years healed in 6 months and hasn't bled a day since.
Still I don't like being addicted and am slowly lowering my dosage to see how bad my symptoms are without it.
That's why I've been looking into help with withdrawal though I've never experienced it for over a day as I've used methadone steadily since lying to get into the program years ago. Good luck.
One is treatment with Ibogaine. It's a drug made from the Iboga plant and though it's not available
for treatment in the US, there are clinics in Mexico, Europe and I believe Canada now also. There
have been a few limited trials in the US I think but know nothing of these. Basically it's a strong psychedelic
or hallucinogen. It's given in a hospital setting if it's a reputable place for treatment with the medication.
Watch out for 3rd world or even Europeans treatments involving putting you in a motel room, giving you the drug and
watching you. You need medical care to go through this, like I said in a clinic or hospital. It takes about 2 or 3 days if I remember right as they evaluate you first and then watch you afterwards for a brief period also. I think the experience itself lasts less than 24 hours and is good at bringing about change in thought patterns due to psychological insights gained through the experience. At least this seems to be true with some who undergo the treatment. They are unsure of the way this drug works other than it possibly helps you 'reset' your brain chemistry in a manner that supposedly makes physical withdrawal simply not cause any symptoms. Often people also report profound insight into what caused the addictive behavior to begin with and also many report a mental relief from any cravings that lasts up to six months in some allowing them to remain sober even after physical withdrawal isn't an issue and all apparent psychological effects have long worn off also.
Of course you should read more about it if you are considering it and much info is online.
A more conventional treatment for physical withdrawal symptom control involves using a medication
called Clonidine, a drug that does not cause dependence and is primarily used
for treating hypertension. That is available here from any doctor. I'd also suggest reading up on it if you are considering it. It is often used in conjunction with an antihistamines or other mild drugs. More info on this is in the link I provide below.
One other area of support for withdrawal include various nutrients and medications designed to return
the brain chemistry to normal after addiction.. Though I don' t know the veracity of the info on his site, one place I've found that seems to have lots of valuable free info is here http://www.dpeg.org/methadone_withdrawal.html
I'm sure there are plenty of similar sites worth viewing where you will get a much wider exposure to information than anyone could ever provide on a site such as this in a post.
From my research these are some of the best methods for stopping in a quick manner especially if used together in a proper manner with the exception of the Ibogaine treatment which is different than these other solutions I offer for consideration. I'd imagine that it would be sufficient without other medications used though I'm not sure what clinics might actually have as a protocol for its usage. I'd still suspect that even with that it would be important to continue nutritional support afterwards for maximum results, though I don't believe any use of medication is called for after leaving treatment at all. For a while this treatment was only available in a medical setting on a ship floating in international waters for the most part due to govt.s reluctance to approve any hallucinogen for any medical usage. Fortunately this is changing in many countries, just not the US at this point.
I should point out that I've only once accidentally even experienced any opiate withdrawal and that was simply from forgetting to take a methadone dose one day. I just felt like I feel on a bad day anyway, but I'm sure I wasn't into full blown withdrawal yet. I use methadone to control the symptoms of crohns disease which can include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, feeling weak and tired and also insomnia. I've been using it for 6 years and it was a miracle drug for me when I found it. I'd had an open fistula that wouldn't heal despite 2 surgeries and 15 years of time. A fistula is a hole that eats it's way through your body from where ever it starts to where ever it ends up.
Mine started in my lower colon and came to the surface about 1/2 an inch from my anus which was where they had to operate on it. Well due to having it bleed 6 to 8 times most days each time I had a bowel movement
and hurt like a fresh wound each time, with the pain subsiding some slowly but never going away truly I turned to
methadone on my own. I had been told 15 years earlier by a pharmacist that they used to treat crohns with liquid
opium. But no doctor would consider it because I'd be an addict. Well I am addicted, but I'm also pain free for the most part and the wound that hadn't healed in 15 years healed in 6 months and hasn't bled a day since.
Still I don't like being addicted and am slowly lowering my dosage to see how bad my symptoms are without it.
That's why I've been looking into help with withdrawal though I've never experienced it for over a day as I've used methadone steadily since lying to get into the program years ago. Good luck.
I have a rare kidney disease and have been taking vics 7.5/750 on and off for about 5 years, I was only taking them on a as needed basis about 5-6 a week but now over the last year I have been taking about 10 a day! I have chronic pain and Im not sure if it has gotten worse or if my body is withdrawling and causing me the pain because my body wants more???? Any advice?? I have been off them for 2 days because I realized that there was a problem but I feel like I want to literally crawl out of my skin,major anxiety,chills,upset stomach...is there anything I can do at home to relieve these horrible symptoms?? I have tried benadryl and tylonel pm and no relief,I actually think that it made it worse because it made me feel a bit lazy but that crawling out of my skin was still there. The day time seems to be more tolerable because I try to keep myself moving but what do I do at night? Does anyone know when the physical withdrawls will go away??? thank you
I'm going to a detox today for vicodin20-30 pills a day i'm sooooooo scared how long will it take??What will I go throught?Will it be better in a detox place?
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