How is it possible

[angpal59]

I was on benzo's and methadone for 2 years and everytime I tried to get off the benzo's or methadone, even the slight decrease would put me in a tailspin of anxiety and depression. I had come across the thomas recipe and decided ahhhhh what the heck, I'll try anything at this point. I want to point out, I'm on Methadone for pain management. Well. 2 mornings ago I woke up and had very little withdrawals,(normal when you wake up) so I say to myself, ya know what, I'm just going to do the methadone and wait, I couldn't believe it, I have not touched a benzo since, I am dumbfounded, in the recipe is L-Tyrosine 500mg tablets and I am pretty sure thats the culprit, but either way, I am feeling alot better to say the least, Now the tough part, getting off the methadone, to be honest, I did up my dose of methadone just a tad but I have wiened myself down from 60 mg's of meth to 40 with no problem, maybe I can wien myself off the Meth with the same recipe, just reaaaaaaaal slow. What do you think made me be able to go through absolutely no WD's from the benzo's?

[weaver71]

I found that below 30mg was when I started to squirm, but I was on a lot more than you. It's not a race, you can't be the first to get clean, it's a marathon that only requires you make it to the finish line. I think you have the right attitude. A lot of my withdrawal symptoms where mental, as I came to learn later. You sound like you're entirely willing. My suggestion, from experience, is to never go back up. Drop slow enough that the symptoms are uncomfortable, but tolerable and wait to stabilize. You'll known what feels okay for you. I found that going to AA, counseling, pastor, talking to friends and family help many to realize why they use. It started with pain for me, but I accumulated many "reasons" as physical addiction grew. I don't know if any of this applies to you, but it's worth considering as you get to the crumbs dosage. Good luck.

[angpal59]

Yea, your right , I've noticed that., its easier to drop from 60 to 40 cause Ive done that before with very little WD, but I noticed when I got down real low, It was a whole different ball game, so I can see where you say crumbs comes into play, ok, I learn something new everytime I come in here which is such a great support line. Thats how I'm going to attempt it. I believe anybody can do it if they really put their nose to the grindstone and just puts their mind to it 100%.

[overopiates]

From all Ive read no u shouldnt jump from2-2&1/2.get down to the tiniest dose u can.Some people will.get down to crumbs.U think ur on40now so that small of an amount shouldnt be a big deal(u have probably dropped that amount n1or2quick drops but at a high dose).It gets tougher the lower u go.Dnt throw urself into awful w/d w/no reason.Take it slow.If u get down&can drop w/o too many w/d symptoms go ahead but Ive heard those last10-20mg r way harder and slower than say80or even more where people can drop5-10mg at once w/almost none or none at all as far as w/d(because ur generally prescribed way to much to begin with).

[angpal59]

Thanks to you too gnarly, I'm wondering, when you taper off methadone, what do you recommend the final cut off dose should be? like maybe 2 and a half mg's?

[angpal59]

Thanks weaver and I will keep you posted and I seriously appreciate your support

[weaver71]

I never liked benzos, but it makes since. L-Tyrosine is the precursor to seratonin, which helps regulate your mood. I feel nutrition has to do with many of our common mental disorders in America. As you know methadone is another animal. The Thomas Recipe is a great tool. I took A LOT more meth than you do, but the nutrients seem to cut the symptoms in half for me. Tapering is the best way to go, in my opinion, due to the long half life of meth. You're on a low enough dose that I think your on the right track. I wish you the best and keep us posted.

[gnarly_1]

HI benzos are funny to come off off some times its ruff other times not so much just depends the thomas recipe has helped many get off stuff though and I know it works use it wile detoxing off the methadone now that your at 40 take t slow and you will be fine just know methadone is ruff to get off off but it is doable keep postin for support good luck and God bless......Gnarly